Worst U.S. President of Last 50 Years

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Worst U.S. President of the Last 50 Years

  1. Nixon

    3 vote(s)
    2.4%
  2. Ford

    2 vote(s)
    1.6%
  3. Carter

    35 vote(s)
    28.2%
  4. Reagan

    3 vote(s)
    2.4%
  5. GHW Bush

    6 vote(s)
    4.8%
  6. Clinton

    9 vote(s)
    7.3%
  7. GW Bush

    13 vote(s)
    10.5%
  8. Trump

    53 vote(s)
    42.7%
  1. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

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    Not a serious comment at all. No real poll has any such finding. What we find is that we still have many Americans who problems with race and color.
     
  2. Andrew Jackson

    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

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    Exactly.

    The comment you refer to, is just more of the same ridiculous Hyper-Partisan Pro-Trump BS (with no basis in reality) that is completely unworthy of being taken seriously.
     
  3. Pollycy

    Pollycy Well-Known Member

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    OK, sport, have it your way. I never should have even gone to a click-bait thread like this one anyway.

    I'll give you this much -- "W" Bush was a really BAD president. But it took a jive-ass NOTHINGNESS like your wonderous "Messiah" Obama to make it even WORSE. Both "W" and your "Messiah" were little more than servile stooges for the Federal Reserve System, which completely took over the economy of the United States in 2008... and now we'll never throw off its tyranny over us again....

    Now, before I go let me correct one aspect of your little butt-hurt "uppity negro" meme -- Obama could not have been "an uppity negro". No, at most, he is not more than a HALF "uppity negro"... because although it's not nearly as 'cool', the man is half-WHITE! :roflol:

    If you wish to explore the topic of "uppity" Negroes, I'll refer you now to wonderous, liberal Democrat president, Lyndon B. Johnson:

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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obama was not nor is he my “Messiah”. However he did enter his first term when the economy was in a downward tailspin and inherited two idiotic wars started by his predecessor. The numbers show that his team slowed down the bleeding both literally and figuratively. Less dead American and civilian deaths occurred and less money was pissed away fighting these wars. To blame him for federal reserve taking over the US economy is laughable. That ship sailed in 1918. I was disappointed when one of his first hires was Goldman Sachs bagman, Timmy Geithner following the parade of Goldman stooges that proceeded him in that position from both parties. Trump did the same thing hiring a bank swindler to run the treasury. Hopefully this trend will be stopped when the next president is elected. I suggest hiring a guy like Ron Paul or Elizabeth Warren for Secretary of Treasury.
     
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    Best post of the month. I bet you don't get any replies on this one from the libs, ha ha.
     
  6. JakeStarkey

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    Or the conservatives, for that matter.

    The only squabble is the issue of the Fed Reserve, which I trust much more than corporate America.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He lied to the American people, he promised to stay out of WWI. He broke our neutrality agreements and secretly was arming the allies. He abandoned thousands of US troops in Russia when the Reds won. The League of Nations was a disaster he couldn't even sell to the American people. His personal involvement in the Treaty of Versailles and insistence on Germany being blamed for WWI are exactly what set up the conditions for WWII. Wilson was scum, the very worst president the US ever had, and a racist Democrat to boot, but that's sort of given...
     
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    He changed his mind, he did not lie.

    He was arming the allies within our law.

    He abandoned no US troops in Russia, all were withdrawn.

    The League of Nation was no disaster within the limits of its charter.

    Wilson was a good president, and those who don't get it the opinions are immaterial.
     
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    And yet Woodrow Wilson, the president who signed the legislation that put the U. S. under the tyrannical domination of the Federal Reserve combine bitterly regretted it later, and said so plainly.

    It is not uncommon for different political factions to wring their hands AFTER they've done something dreadfully stupid and thoughtless, but liberal Democrats have been doing this conspicuously, from their creation of the Fed over a hundred years ago, to the creation of 'Obamacare' during the "Messiah's" reign -- and it, too, was thrust on the American people before anyone (including the morons who gave it birth) had any real idea what was "in it"....

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    He promised to stay out of WW1 until the German's started sinking US ships, carried out vast sabotage against the US and conspired with Mexico to start a war on the US's southern border. He armed the Allies and Central powers equally, the German's simply couldn't take advantage of it due to our blockade. The LofN was the precursor of the UN and the hope of the world. He blamed the Germans because they were guilty, Belgium didn't invade Germany and Wilson was the most conciliatory of all the negotiators, the US had suffered least amongst the victorious Allies. He was racist but every President up to JFK presided over segregation.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's a lie, the US was shipping military gear to the British, in violation of our own declaration of neutrality. Germany was sinking legitimate targets that were supplying the war effort against them. Like Wilson, the League of Nations was a failure. The responsibility for WWI was shared by all involved parties, placing the blame solely in Germany directly created the environment that spawned Hitler. It wasn't just presidents. Democrats are the party of the Klan, and hear some of them talk, they still are...
     
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    Dispondent is writing revisionist history.

    The entire history is much more comprehensive than D's one-sided rhetoric.
     
  13. Andrew Jackson

    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

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    Every OBJECTIVE Academic Survey (conducted by Actual Historians) has Trump among the Very WORST.

    For example, of the "Historical Rankings" that Trump has been included in:

    Here are his ratings out of 44:

    44/42/44.

    2 Have him as the WORST Ever.

    1 has him at 42 (trailed by only Buchanan and Andrew Johnson).

    Trump has a High of 42 and a Low of 44 (in the 2 rankings that have him as the WORST Ever).

    Obama's Rankings are as follows:

    8/12/13/15/17/18

    Obama has a High of 8 and a Low of 18.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/His..._of_the_United_States#Notable_scholar_surveys

    So, in conclusion, ALL Objective Historians have Obama rated Light Years ahead of Trump.

    I would take the word (and knowledge) of Objective Historians (any day of the week) over the skewed narrative of Anonymous Hyper-Partisans on an Internet Forum.

    In other words, anybody who thinks that Trump is better than Obama is totally dreaming (and has no concept of actual historical context).

    Trump = Worst Ever.:flagus:

    Every OBJECTIVE Survey worthy of being cited by Wikipedia:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_presidents_of_the_United_States
     
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    To his credit, Wilson admitted it.

    Hoover, Reagan, Bush I, Bush II, Trump never did.
     
  15. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why’s that Obama is not on the list?

    Ah yes, OP is by the Liberal.

    Obviously :)
     
  16. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why”s Obama not on the list again?
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hey, you Teh people! :roflol:
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    People who? The Progressve Liberal Democrats of PF? These people? For Conservatives have not participated in your screwed, skewed poll.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But of course it’s biased - look who started it.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You Libs are terrified of including Obama in this poll, for you know he’d get the bulk of Conservative negative vote. But then, Libs despite competition be it in skrul, college, sports, at work or in politics. Must skew everything in your favor to have a chance to win, eh?
     
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    You seem out of the loop my friend.

    Unrealistic, Obsessive (and ludicrously skewed) Obama Hate is all over this forum.

    Of course, that is to be expected at a place at which Trump's Supporters are Exponentially Over-represented.
     
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    Every OBJECTIVE Academic Survey (conducted by Actual Historians) has Trump among the Very WORST.

    For example, of the "Historical Rankings" that Trump has been included in:

    Here are his ratings out of 44:

    44/42/44.

    2 Have him as the WORST Ever.

    1 has him at 42 (trailed by only Buchanan and Andrew Johnson).

    Trump has a High of 42 and a Low of 44 (in the 2 rankings that have him as the WORST Ever).

    Obama's Rankings are as follows:

    8/12/13/15/17/18

    Obama has a High of 8 and a Low of 18.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/His..._of_the_United_States#Notable_scholar_surveys

    So, in conclusion, ALL Objective Historians have Obama rated Light Years ahead of Trump.

    I would take the word (and knowledge) of Objective Historians (any day of the week) over the skewed narrative of Anonymous Hyper-Partisans on an Internet Forum.

    In other words, anybody who thinks that Trump is better than Obama is totally dreaming (and has no concept of actual historical context).

    Trump = Worst Ever.:flagus:

    Every OBJECTIVE Survey worthy of being cited by Wikipedia:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_presidents_of_the_United_States
     
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    Then why even run a skewed poll in which Conservatives obviously won’t participate? To pat yourselves on the backs? Good job! :nana:
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A case in point - under the pretense of a poll, just another Trump bashing tread.

    You Libs are so transparent. :applause:
     
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    @Andrew Jackson
    How about some specifics?
    Just the facts, not unsubstantiated power words.

    Employment?
    Trade?
    Wars?
    Standard of living?

    How so, The Worst?
    He ended 24 years of RepubloCratic centrist rule.
    That's good enough for Moi. Would prefer Sanders to do the same.

    Did you really want to extend those glory years of Clinton - Bush, Jr. - Obama?

    Speak clearly into the microphone please
    and avoid obfuscations in your reply.
     

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