READ: Whistleblower lawyer's letter to White House

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  1. glitch

    glitch Well-Known Member

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    So … calling someone a traitor is not a threat. Just admit that you made a kinda dumb claim there.
     
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    I know no one who wants him hurt. Let's get to the truth and quit hiding in the shadows and hiding the truth.
     
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    Well, I may not know, but trump and his allies have made repeated efforts to identify and describe the individual they believe is the traitor.
     
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    If you ignore context, i.e. that I was talking explicitly about the president calling a specific individual a traitor, then sure.

    It is not fair to claim that calling someone a traitor, in the abstract, is a threat in and of itself.
     
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    Not if he got that confidential information in the course of doing his job.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Most people know who he is but we'll carry on with the pretense of not knowing. If he has stolen classified information over a period of time would that make him a traitor?
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The number of people who have access to any President's classified private phone calls with other world leaders is very limited and this is the third leak that we know of. Would agree that these ongoing leaks are a serious issue and should be dealt with?
     
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    They're trying to get Trump to cease and desist his First Amendment rights to speak out against defamatory, wrongful claims against him. Once more the totalitarian tendencies of the LW on display.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This didn’t leak. The whistleblower went through the proper channels. Didn’t leak it.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Exactly. He has to take all the shots but cannot fire back, however he doesn't seem to be following the leftist guidelines.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you've already heard his testimony and cross examination? Was that leaked also?
     
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    uhh...maybe? Do you have any information that suggests he has stolen classified information over a period of time?
     
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    Truth is what we all want. Mueller 's report issued the truth but Barr the Trump lackey manipulated , deleted most of it, and changed the essence, and issued a 4 page Fake report thus he obstructed the truth.

    I want the truth about everything but it seems that thugs like Nunes and Jordan want what they have accused those Democratic boys and girls _ a Witch Hunt.
     
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    Great article. This was good:

    "Yes, there is an actual treaty between the U.S. and Ukraine which obligates the leaders of both countries to cooperate fully and together on investigations of corruption, particularly criminal matters and corruption that involves both the United States and the Ukraine. The phone call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Zelenskiy, and it’s[sic] content, were not only legal, but the discussion and requests are actually mandated."

    What a joke that Schiff is still head of his committee, after his years of lying about Trump's imagined collusion and the very fact he is a fact witness to the Ukraine event.
     
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    LOL, still in denial there was no collusion? Mueller knew that shortly after he started his Witch Hunt. It was an investigation in search of a crime, based on hearsay.
     
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    He was earning millions for nothing and his father the VP knew it and did not recuse himself. Let's have a full investigation and clear the matter up. We have far more probable cause than there ever was to start an investigation against Trump.
     
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    He doesn't meet the statutory conditions to qualify for whistle blower protections.
     
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    There was no quid and there was no quo there was a President carrying out his duty to protect our interest and taxpayer dollars and investigate Russian interference and Ukraine oligarchs trying to influence our government.
     
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    Start threads about mob bosses and flat earth.
    You just trolled your own thread. Funny
     
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    Proper channels to obtain it ?
    You left out that part of the equation.

    And certainly, Shiff is not a proper channel.
    Proper channels does not include improper channels. Going through even one improper channel negates the claim of proper
     
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    Real quick here! When you say information, is that the same as opinion and hearsay, or are you suggesting this information is "First hand witness to say, the presidents conversation?" And also, I notice you don't consider conspiracy? So hearsay, personal trust and a certain number of corroborators is enough to impeach the most hated President of all time.. I suppose you also don't factor in the threat of impeachment before this Presidents inauguration, what was the reason stating there, party hatred? Then we see three long years of failed attempts to MAKE GOOD their threats! And all this helps you deal with the obvious bias associated with these players and these continuous bullshit attempts every single day for three years now..

    WOW, you're easily convinced Sir :)
     
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    The Presidents actions andnour foreign policy do not come under the statute and why the DNI and Office of Legal Counsel denied it such status blowing Schiff's and his fellow conspiritors their little plot and so Schiff leaked it. And AFAIK the complainer has not been given official whistleblower status.
     
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    He's on their witness list. Surely you think he should testify.
     
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    The elephant in the room the Dems/MSM/left want to ignore. The phone call was classified and on a need to know basis. Who leaked it to this guy? And if he encouraged someone to leak it to him then he may have committed a felony.
     
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