Weather station in Antarctica records high of 65, the continent's hottest temperature ever

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  1. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have provided zero proof that humans are responsible. The only 'climate' effects humans could influence would be localized, not global. No. I'm not saying that's happening, just that global is far too vast for humanity to influence...
     
  2. MrTLegal

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    Again, all of those posts contain actual proof.

    So you think it is impossible for you to ever be convinced that humans are almost certainly responsible for the majority of the current warming trend?
     
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  3. Bowerbird

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    Well, seems that this complete report with all its citations has been wasted on you

    https://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/uploads/2018/02/WG1AR5_all_final.pdf

    Unless of course you can identify the portions of the report that are wrong
     
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    LOL Oh Legal don't make stuff up. If you had you could produce the quotes and you can't. Multiple times over and over and over again you've been asked to produce them and you've run.

    Once again its not my argument. Its yours. The burden is on you. Or do you think you can just make grand claims and never back them up with proof?

    Absoltuely if the data existed and you keep proving time and time again it doesn't.

    If it did you could quote any source you've presented proving it. And you can't. Each and every time you are asked to do so, you can't do it.

    This is the simplest way to shut me up and you keep proving me right every time you run from presenting the proof to back your belief.
     
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    LOL You really want to step into this mate?

    Go on, quote ANY part of any document with the proof that states CO2 is the primary cause of climate change.

    Go on. Let's see it.

    Then find proof humans are the primary source of CO2 on this planet.

    You want to step into the big leagues mate, let's see you try :)
     
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    One Mind Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You know solar wind and geothermal cannot supply an ever growing need for energy to sustain modern civ.

    That is the fact that makes the war against co2 utter nonsense.

    The end of the warming cycle will melt the ice caps. With man or without man . Then whatever causes our cyclical ice ages will give us the next ice age .

    And there is nothing puny humans can do to stop climate cycles .

    This concern is so silly.
     
  7. liberalminority

    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    the government also possesses the weather technology to melt antarctica.
     
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    As an initial matter, ROFLMAO at the notion that you - some anonymous poster at PF.com with zero credentials, credibility, or even the ability to identify a hypothetical example of something you consider proof - are part of the "big league."

    Now, onwards to some specific quotes that you already were provided and choose to ignore (and to which you will subsequently respond to with a post that undoubtedly includes an "lol" and "you fail") as to your two requests:

    1) CO2, and specifically Human induced production of CO2, is the primary driver of climate change:

    From Post #401
    2) Humans are the producer of the cumulative GHG concentrations. That word cumulative is real important because no one is claiming that humans are responsible for all of the CO2 in the atmosphere. And only a moron who doesnt understand the CO2 cycle will demand proof that humans make more CO2 each year than any other source. No, the question is whether the amount and type of CO2 that is accumulating, year to year, in the atmosphere is caused by humans:

    From post #402
    And once again, you are reminded that there is a whole host of more "actual data" that you have been provided here to further complement those quotes you wanted. But here are some more resources with more "real science" just for you:

    https://climate.nasa.gov/causes/
    https://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/are-humans-causing-or-contributing-global-warming
    https://19january2017snapshot.epa.gov/climate-change-science/causes-climate-change_.html
    https://ec.europa.eu/clima/change/causes_en
    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/global-warming-causes/
    https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/climate-change/causes-of-climate-change
    https://www.un.org/en/sections/issues-depth/climate-change/

    Welcome to the "Big Leagues," Rofl.

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  9. MrTLegal

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    Your first sentence is definitely wrong.
     
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    I would feel safe betting that the first year, decade, and century were the hottest, respectively, since most everything was still molten at the time.

    Were you trying to say something else but failed?

    Want to try again?
     
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    You do not need an explanation for the phrase "on record."

    Try to dodge again. This time without calling me a failure, a coward, or a liar.
     
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    close, but this is why they dont call it "global warming" any more and changed it to "climate change" that way you can blame every weather event on it!
     
  13. SiNNiK

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    You are wearing that shoe voluntarily, no one here on PF has said that about you, except you. You are free to climb down off your cross any time. :D

    I do like how you flail like your integrity has been besmirched, broken even. Drama much? ;)

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    No one believes for a minute that you would, upon being presented with proof, admit that you were wrong and you now see things more clearly.

    No one.
     
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    Pure comedy.

    So now you are stating that glaciers were formed and melted for millions of years without humans on the planet but since humans are now here, it's humans that are forming and melting glaciers due fossil fuels.

    Do you have any evidence to back this up and how do you equate the fact that all of this was happening long before humans were here? So it happened without humans, it's still happening with humans but the causes have been shifted to blame humans.

    Have you grasped the silliness of your stance?
     
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    You definitely made the accusation, multiple times. When challenged, you backed down.

    And I will promise you this back - dodging a really basic question with some idiocy like talking about when the planet was a molten rock is definitely not going to act as proof.

    But you need to ask yourself - if you think anonymous posters on PF.com are able to present proof that refutes the theory of AGW, then why haven't people with actual credentials and reputations managed to convince more than ~2% of the actively publishing climatologists?
     
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    The name never changed.
     
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    Again, you are dodging the question. I already explained that glaciers melting in the past because of other reasons, like a meteor strike or volcanic activity or solar intensity or orbital variability, does not mean that humans are incapable of melting glaciers today. You dodged again with the same fallacy and I answered - AGAIN.

    Answer my questions now.

    Why does the fact that glaciers melted millions of years ago mean that humans are incapable of melting glaciers today?

    If you dont want to answer that question, then please answer the following: Do you think it is possible that you will ever be convinced that humans are almost certainly responsible for most of the current warming trend?
     
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    If glaciers were forming and melting for millions of years why would the cause change to suddenly blame humans when the exact same thing was happening before humans were here?

    Waves are seen to be lapping up against the shores of Lake Michigan and we have evidence they have long before humans were here. Are you now saying that the waves lapping against the shores are caused by humans? Should we raise billions of dollars at the expense of taxpayers to stop this from happening?
     
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    You appear to think that answering the question with a question is the only way to answer a question. It is not. Try again.

    Why does the fact that glaciers melted millions of years ago mean that humans are incapable of melting glaciers today?

    If you dont want to answer that question, then please answer the following: Do you think it is possible that you will ever be convinced that humans are almost certainly responsible for most of the current warming trend?
     
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    You have failed to address that question with a reasonable answer. It proves how silly and shortsighted your stance really is.

    Why would the reason for glaciers forming and melting change when it has been going on for millions and millions of years? Clouds are forming in the sky and have been for millions of years too. Are humans responsible for this now, now that we roam the earth?

    Why can't you address such basic facts?
     
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    *LOL*

    Your google machine is broken? You're incapable of doing your own research? Nobody has to "prove" climate change to your satisfaction--you wouldn't believe it anyway.
     
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    I already answered your question - multiple times now. Here is again. "I already explained that glaciers melting in the past because of other reasons, like a meteor strike or volcanic activity or solar intensity or orbital variability, does not mean that humans are incapable of melting glaciers today. You dodged again with the same fallacy and I answered - AGAIN.

    You appear to think that answering the question with a question is the only way to answer a question. It is not. Try again.

    Why does the fact that glaciers melted millions of years ago mean that humans are incapable of melting glaciers today?

    If you dont want to answer that question, then please answer the following: Do you think it is possible that you will ever be convinced that humans are almost certainly responsible for most of the current warming trend?
     
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    If Earth was a molten rock in its first billion years, why isn't it molten now? Did the sun cool down? Earth get farther away during orbit? Water and molten lava don't mix. Did we get hit was a celestial water meteor to make our oceans and stop the Earth's molting?
     
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