DEVELOPING: Declassified Rice email documenting WH meeting 1/5/2017 obtained

Rice tried to protect Obama, blame Comey for withholding intelligence from Flynn and Trump team.

Sen. Ron Johnson says declassified Susan Rice email points to corruption of the transition process.​

Top Obama administration officials resolved to withhold Russia-related intelligence from the incoming Trump administration.

The withholding of that information would be essential if the investigation of Trump, begun by Obama’s administration, were to continue after Trump took office.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/and...ithholding-intelligence-from-flynn-trump-team

Obama's administration investigated Trump on the baseless claim that his campaign might have conspired with Russia to steal the 2016 election.

The newly disclosed paragraph underscores the intensity of the Obama administration’s focus on Flynn, as well as the absence of a factual or legal basis for investigating him, either as a criminal suspect or a clandestine agent of the Kremlin.

4 investigations were launched, one investigation targeted Flynn, a retired Army lieutenant general and decorated combat commander, whom Obama had appointed head of the Defense Intelligence Agency – only to fire him when Flynn butted heads with Obama officials on policy.

The Obama administration’s purported suspicions of a conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russian regime to conduct cyberespionage in order to swing the 2016 election to Trump were baseless.

The Jan. 5 Oval Office meeting was held to enable intelligence agency chiefs to brief President Obama on their assessment that Russia had interfered in the 2016 campaign. The intelligence chiefs were scheduled to brief President-elect Trump the following day in New York City.

 

After the presentation, Obama asked Comey and Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates to stay for a follow-on meeting with Obama, Rice and Vice President Joe Biden.

Both counterintelligence and law-enforcement considerations were discussed. The principal topic, Obama explained, was the need to consider a rationale for withholding Russia-related intelligence from the incoming Trump team.

It was entirely appropriate for Flynn – as the incoming Trump national security adviser – to engage in such conversations with foreign counterparts. Flynn discouraged Russia from escalating tensions with the U.S. – just as we would want any American official engaged in foreign relations to do.

Just a day before the Oval Office meeting, the FBI had completed a memo closing its Crossfire Razor investigation of Flynn because no evidence had been found to support the absurd suspicion that he was a clandestine agent of Russia.

Nevertheless, even though Flynn’s conversation with Kislyak had been proper, Obama officials seemed determined to use it as a pretext for extending the investigation of Flynn.

 

The Flynn-Kislyak conversation would also be used to rationalize withholding from Flynn and other Trump officials Russia-related intelligence – which was in the possession of the White House National Intelligence Council that Flynn would soon be leading.

“Director Comey affirmed that he is proceeding ‘by the book’ as it relates to law enforcement.” The emphasis on law enforcement relates to potential criminal prosecution, as distinguished from counterintelligence, which is about gathering information about foreign powers, such as Russia. One wonders what “book” Comey and Obama had in mind.

There was no evidence that Flynn had committed any crimes. Consequently, as shown by documents recently disclosed by the Justice Department, Comey was reduced to discussing the possibility that Flynn might have violated the Logan Act.

The Logan Act is a moribund, unconstitutional 18th-century prohibition against unauthorized diplomacy has never been used in a successful prosecution, has not been invoked since before the Civil War, and has never been the subject of an indictment in the 150-year history of the Justice Department. There could be nothing “by the book” about a law enforcement investigation of a purported Logan Act violation.

 

Comey then moved on to “a national security perspective” – a reference to the counterintelligence probe. Again, it turned out that the FBI director had no concrete grounds for suspicion.

Comey said he had “some concerns that incoming NSA Flynn is speaking frequently with Russian Ambassador Kislyak.”

Even if this were true, the number of contacts would be irrelevant – especially for an incoming national security adviser – as long as nothing nefarious was discussed. On that score, Comey had no disparaging information, even admitting that he had “no indication that Flynn has passed classified information to Kislyak.”

When Obama asked whether Comey “was saying that the NSC should not pass sensitive information related to Russia to Flynn,” Comey could only respond by saying “potentially.” That is, there was not a solid basis at that point for restricting Flynn’s access.

The palpable reason for concealing Russian intelligence from the new president and his national security team would be to obscure the fact that the Obama administration had monitored the Trump campaign and planned for the investigation to continue even after Trump took power.

Counterintelligence investigations are supposed to be conducted for the president.

 

Yeah. Damn book deals and speaking tours. I'd say its difficult to become President without being wealthy on some level.

I can't believe you used the "I know you are but what am I?" Comeback lol.

Have fun with that. Watch out for those rubber kids.

 

Book deals a peanuts. Speeches is where money is.

 

This Rice story has "Developing" for a couple of days (now).

Is she in jail yet?

 

Think about what you just wrote, that intelligence was withheld. When did that occur? For that matter when was it even suggested that that may have occurred? The email clearly states that the orders were for that not to occur.
FOX news method here is to take an email which actually shows people acting responsibly using due diligence as A, then then present that B could have occurred which leads to C and then D and pretty soon they are presenting E and F as clear facts that need to be acted upon. Trump is happy, they get their ratings and all is well in their world. The loss to democracy is irrelevant.

 

The day after that infamous meeting, Comey briefed Trump and only told him about the lurid pissing prostitutes, and nothing else.

Well it says that investigations were to be "by the book", but no one has clue what the hell book they could possible be referring to, because what they did to Flynn, Page, and the Trump Campaign and Transition isn't by any book anyone has any familiarity with.

Andrew C McCarthy is the author. He led the prosecution of the terrorists that committed the First World Trade Center Bombing and put the Blind Sheikh away for life. He has forgotten more about criminal and counter-intelligence investigations than you will ever know.

There is nothing honorable, responsible or diligent about the way these people misused the authority WE granted them for OUR benefit, against our Fellow Americans in a cheap bid to circumvent the Electoral process.

Well, they failed, but, the next set of crooks to gain executive power, could put another set of crooks right back into power. THAT is a serious problem.

The war these scum launched on Flynn continues to this day. First the lawless spying, then the ambush interview, then the out of bounds massaging of the 302's by folks later removed from Mueller's witch hunt for bias, then the crooked Mueller prosecutors and now Crazy Judge Sullivan.

Sullivan's conduct is so deranged that General Flynn’s counsel, Sidney Powell, has had to file a petition for a writ of mandamus in the D.C. Circuit, to have the appeals court instruct District judge Emmet Sullivan end his tantrum over the Justice Department’s motion to dismiss the case. Judge Sullivan’s antics include inviting a torrent of amicus briefs to help him figure out a way to deny the motion, which he must know he has no authority to do under the circumstances.

Ms. Powell quotes in full Judge Sullivan’s own order, dated December 20, 2017, explaining why it would be improper for a judge to allow third parties to file amicus briefs in Flynn’s criminal case — something he refused to permit two dozen times before the dizzying U-turn he took a few days ago:

MINUTE ORDER. This Court has received several motions to intervene/file an amicus brief along with letters in support from a private individual who is neither a party to this case nor counsel of record for any party. The Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure do not provide for intervention by third parties in criminal cases. The Court recognizes that the movant sincerely believes that he has information to share that bears on this case, and that, understandably, he wishes to be heard. Options exist for a private citizen to express his views about matters of public interest, but the Court’s docket is not an available option. The docket is the record of official proceedings related to criminal charges brought by the United States against an individual who has pled guilty to a criminal offense. For the benefit of the parties in this case and the public, the docket must be maintained in an orderly fashion and in accordance with court rules. The movant states that he disagrees with the similar Minute Order issued by Judge Berman Jackson in Criminal Case Number 17-201, but the contrary legal authority on which he relies is neither persuasive nor applicable. Therefore, the Clerk is directed not to docket additional filings submitted by the would-be intervenor. If the individual seeks relief from this Court’s rulings, he must appeal the rulings to the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. Signed by Judge Emmet G. Sullivan on 12/20/2017. (lcegs3) (Entered: 12/20/2017).​

As Flynn’s mandamus petition explains, the court rules to which Sullivan refers (i.e., the rules of the court on which he sits as a judge) expressly authorize amicus brief in civil cases, but do not authorize them in criminal cases. Those are rules Sullivan used to apply . . . until he decided to stop being Flynn’s judge and start being Flynn’s prosecutor.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/michael-flynn-case-judge-sullivan-rules-amicus-briefs/

The breath taking abuses of power you are attempting to normalize are completely foreign to the Rule Of Law in a Free Society.

 

Almost, Fox News has the morons here convinced that when she said "by the book" it was code for do illegal stuff.

hahaha

 

One thing is for sure, in the next transition we need not fear the outgoing Trump admin withholding intelligence.

 

[QUOTE="StillBlue, post: 1071707772, member: 72985"... take an email which actually shows people acting responsibly using due diligence...[/QUOTE]
I do not understand how that could be your position.

Take Rice. Rice has gone from claiming to have had no knowledge of Obama administration monitoring of Flynn and other Trump associates, to claiming no knowledge of any unmaskings of Trump associates, to admitting she was complicit in the unmaskings, y’know, the guy she said she had no idea they were investigating.

Rice was deeply involved in the Obama administration’s Trump–Russia investigation, including its sub-investigation of Flynn, a top Trump campaign surrogate who was slated to replace Rice as national-security advisor when President Trump took office.

There is nothing responsible, forthright or diligent about any of that.

 

It's easy for me to have this position, I don't have FOX news giving me their interpretations of events to arrive at unfounded conclusions and demands of action.

(cue "I hardly ever watch FOX news" response as proof of independent conclusions )

 

It can only be 'diligent' if you see them as having a 'credible' investigation, but evidence by the damn day torpedos that. We recently just learned that the Crossfire Hurricane team was truthful about one thing at least....They said they began the crossfire Hurricane operation on July 31st, and documents have finally come out to support that.

So, what's the problem? The problem is, what the FBI team asserts that Papadoupolis/Downer said, both men have protested that. Further, Papadoupolis twice(through different informants) stated directly to the FBI that it would be treasonous to engage with the Russians.

Given these facts, there was no legitimate predicate to opening up Crossfire Hurricane. To be completely blunt with my fellow citizens, despite what Comey might think, the FBI should not be in the business of figuring out who the homecoming queen and king are. The FBI's job was to investigate crimes! It's an investigative unit! Not a private detective firm, not a political research firm. It's an investigative unit of the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

Incompetence in general, yes is not criminal. But criminal acts(editing 302's is obstruction of justice) in the name of incompetence is STILL criminal. Then there's the whole fourth amendment issue since there was no basis or legal right for any informants and tapping into Papadoupolis/Page.

 

No, not quite. But rather to establish plausible deniability. It's the kind of excuses we're going to hear over the next few months. Similarly to "No reasonable prosecutor" would prosecute an individual taking classified emails and putting them on a unclassified server(ROFL)

Every criminal who ever was, tried these word games to slip out of legal trouble. The problem for them is, their credibility is shot and their 'reputation' as officers of the law no longer apply. They no longer have the ability to be apostles of the State.(I'm referencing to the fall of Rome.) That's what we had to deal with in regards to the Special Counsel.

 

Oh yes, he did. Obama weaponized all of them and did more. History will be very unkind to Obama and rightfully so.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/05/2...weaponized-surveillance-laws-to-target-trump/

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/russiagate-obama-iran

Obama will never pay despite the fact that he actually committed real crimes and perverted the FISA system. Obama is protected and above the law and he knows it.

 

Obama doesn't care what anyone thinks. If he gets a little heat, he just stands up in front of a camera and tells more lies. He is one of the most corrupt silver tongue liars I have ever seen.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...-2016-campaign-finally-declassified-released/

Obama is proof that when certain men get power, they have no idea how to wield it.

 

It definitely looks like Obama is going to be in major trouble the next time that he runs for President.

His campaign is dead in the water.

Barack, we hardly knew ye.

 

She absolutely lied in her public interview as did apparently everyone in the Obama administration. And now she wants to VP then President.

 

She absolutely did not.

 

So they were trying to interfere with the incoming administration and their foreign policy implementation.

 

She denied any knowledge.

 

Susan Rice told a lot of lies to cover for Obama and for Hillary. According to Yates, Susan wasn't even there. Did she even write the memo or did Obama's WH Council write it?:

Susan Rice May Not Have Been the Author of the Just Released Inauguration Day Memo

https://www.redstate.com/streiff/20...mo&utm_content=2&utm_campaign=PostPromoterPro

 

The thing to take note is weeks after the fact and after consulting the lawyers she wrights a cya memo claiming Obama had to tell them this. Why? And since it wasn't done "by the book"........

 

So you are on record here claiming it is fake..........gotcha ..........this should be good.