DEVELOPING: Declassified Rice email documenting WH meeting 1/5/2017 obtained

Ok, agreed the letter proves nothing. Thanks!

 

The letter shows intent to cover up, by claiming lawful action where lawful actions weren't taken. And now that we know that Rice at minimum had the letter dictated to her, there's more questions that have to be answered now.

 

Nah trump spied on them....and teenagers changing

 

The far right has no traction with Tara Reade, Flynn, Obama-gate, or skittles.

Well played, Democrats.

 

Exactly.

None of that will move the needle (even a tiny bit).

An Easy Win for the Dems.

Nobody (except the 1/3rd of America that will support Trump, no matter what) even cares.

 

What is the significance of the newly-declassified paragraph? Several things stand out.

1) Rice fingered Comey as the person who supplied the basis for lying to her successor.

2) Note that Comey distinguished between the FBI’s law enforcement investigation and a separate “national security perspective.” It has been widely pointed out that Comey’s FBI carried out a criminal investigation against Trump and his associates in the guise of a national security investigation. They are quite different things, but Comey improperly merged the two. You can see the “national security perspective” offered as a distinct rationale in January 2017.

3) The stated grounds for lying to General Flynn were ridiculously weak. Comey claims that Flynn “is speaking frequently with Russian Ambassador Kislyak.” How frequently? We have all heard about one telephone conversation. How many others were there? We don’t know. Comey admits, in any case, that Flynn hadn’t said anything untoward to the Ambassador, just as it was later admitted that in the one conversation that has been the subject of public focus, Flynn did nothing wrong. Nonetheless, because Comey claimed “the level of communication [was] unusual,” Obama’s officials should take the step–unprecedented, as far as I know–of lying to a new administration’s incoming national security staff.

4) Lying about what? Rice’s memo is notably discreet here. Rice’s “Russia” means the “Russia investigation,” in all of its permutations, which now stands revealed as the Obama administration’s effort first to guarantee Hillary Clinton’s election, and, failing that, to disable the new Trump administration before it could get off the ground.

Rice foresaw that despite the Obama holdovers’ best efforts, the truth about their “Russia investigation” could come to light someday. If that happened, she wanted it to be on record that President Obama had authorized her to lie, on advice from James Comey. This is not surprising, but it fills an important gap in our understanding of the corruption of the Obama administration.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/05/explosive-rice-memo-declassified.php

 

The right's arguments for Flynn are going to get him executed for treason.

 

Boy oh boy look what we have here a lefty that now claims a man that was an American war hero, gave everything to this country and became a 3 star general, that was given the highest clearance from the Obama team, then as an American citizen that got spied on because he was going to be Trumps NSA, is now predicting he'll get executed for Treason. What kind of sick wonderland do you guys live in. You trash people purely due to TDS and you honestly think it's others out of touch. Wow after reading this thread it sounds like the FBI should be "surveying" some of you.

 

Very good analysis... the Left's arguments are and will continue to be "but Flynn perjured himself!" So did dick Clinton, and the Left does not hold it against him.

Using the same logic, why should the Right hold it against Flynn?

 

It's worse than that, Saying I don't know or remember isn't lying. The incoming administration knew they were under investigation, I'm sure they were all very very cautious of what was told to the FBI. For that matter all government agencies are cautious about what is told to other agencies. It's none of the FBI's business what Flynn was discussing with the Ambassador period. FBI doesn't make policy with foreign governments, the President does. Saying an NSA should not speak to an Ambassador about policy days before the new administration comes into office is about the dumbest thing I've heard. You don't flip a f'ing switch when a new President comes into office. It would have been reckless not to speak with the Russian Ambassador considering all the squawking going on in the media and the lefties. Bottom line, Trump team knew they didn't collude so this meant either Russia was pushing it or Obama Team, they had to insure they got off on the right foot because your dealing with an advisory with nukes. This whole thing was done to keep Trump from being effective out of the gate or from taking office, which is scary as hell for America, even the lefties that can't think out of their little box how dangerous this could have been.

This noise about registering as a foreign agent is just dumb, remember Podesta had to file paperwork 2 years later for his work in Ukraine, left had no problerm. With that it's always what constitutes being a foreign agent which is why the logan act is never ever ever used by a prosecutor. Flynn was targeted because Obama knew he would find all these spying deeds quickly and they had to get him removed. That's why the leak was planted, then they had 20 people unmask to insure it would save someone from felony prosecution. The middle and the right is not dumb, they know a setup when they see one and all the BS from our lefty friends in this thread is simply excuses to save face but it's coming out, way more to come.

 

Update, another bombshell coming:

DNI in process of declassifying the Kislyak-Flynn transcripts.

 

Judge Sullivan already said all the relevant parts are in the mueller report...so it’s not really a bombshell

 

I think they are doing it because it puts to rest that anything nefarious was going on or said by Flynn. It makes his case even more solid and lays the ground work for a counter suit.

Once again, it will make Obama look like the corrupt fool that he is.

Gen. Flynn is on offense with the help of the DNI/DOJ.

Dir. Wray needs to be fired and someone else put in his place. Someone who actually wants to clean out the corruption in the FBI.

 

It is their job to secure the US from espionage and since Flynn had already been an unregistered foreign agent it should come as no surprise that he should catch the eye of the FBI.

 

No he did not.

They were not spying on Flynn. They were listening to Kysliak (sp) and Flynn was caught that way.

And now the right just claimed that Flynns name was in the report and was never redacted, therefore the Obama administration knew all along it was Flynn. But isn’t that the core of “Obamagate” that they “unmasked” him ?

You guys gotta make up your damn minds. You keep making claims that refute the last claims you made.......its beyond laughable

 

Nope the core is they unmasked him and used it for political purposes to undermine the new admin

 

Every one of those has been thoroughly debunked.

I especially love the IRS “scandle”. You know, the one where the republicans asked if the IRS had investigate 501c groups, the IRS responded with...”YES, as we are required to by law”, then the republicans start screaming about “targeting”. Just stunning to watch. Oh, and then they don’t took money from the treasury to pay those groups “reparations” to help their own party.....”KEEP MOVING.....NOTHING TO SEE HERE”

Surprised those Pearls are still round with all the clutching being done on the right

 

What is “unmasking” Struth ?

Wait....your saying that the Obama admin “undermined” the Trump admin after Flynn undermined the Obama admin and their sanctions ?

You cant make that up with a team of writers

 

When they release the name of an American who’s due process rights were violated

 

When they release the name of an American who’s due process

There was no undermining of the Obama admin.

 

I don’t see how don’t retaliate and don’t escalate is undermining any foreign policy at all, unless of course the policy was to get Russia to do those exact things. Is that what you think the policy Obama had was?

 

I guess the Dembots are now saying it was the position of Obama to escalate things with Russia....apparently right before he left office his foreign policy was a hot war with Moscow.....

With that said,...Flynn should get the Nobel Peace Prize

 

Well, how loudly they shriek is not the issue. The issue is did they have a properly predicated investigation, unless a false statement is material, it doesn't meet the code for penal violation.

Secondly, Flynn has NEVER seen the transcript of the call. He gave them an indefinite answer because he didn't remember for sure, which is reflected in the interviewing agents notes, BUT, had been massaged to a definite denial, by the time Dirty Peter and Slut Lisa were done endlessly massaging the 302 in violation of even the corrupt FBI's policy.

Flynn and his defense STILL have never heard the call or seen the transcript. UNHEARD OF in a False Statements case.

The devolution of the Left when it comes to civil rights, corrupt prosecution, #METOO, double standards in lockdown, well, hope you enjoyed your free trial under "Progressive National Socialism", vote wisely!

 

That's the problem with conspiracies, they change so fast, that those who believe them can't keep up with the BS they so desperately want to believe.

 

You LITERALLY do not know what you are even debating

“Unmasking” is a legal process that when a name in a classified report is redacted, the ”unmasking” is giving the name to the individual who has the right classification to read the report in the first place, the name that was redacted. That process has to be done for every individual who READS the report on a separate case by case basis, and ONLY people with the right classification level can see report, but each person has to file a separate request for redaction.

On a separate note......if the name was never redacted, as the right is now claiming...then that means that their would not need to be an “unmasking” then right. That COMPLETELY destroys “Obamagate”......this is getting farcicle