Voter fraud is a myth

No, but I wasn't a DOPE and a LIAR.

 

With so many examples of voter fraud (readily available for anyone who actually wants the truth)......why does such a misguided, uninformed thread even exist?

 

Name calling now????

 

Lack of rebuttal noted again you did jot address anything I said.

Voter fraud does occur as has been shown over and over to you and your "logic" that it doesn't matter because it doesn't happen on a large scale totally folly.
Now go back and actually try to address what I said and refute it and explain why you are OK with voter fraud as long as it is in a small scale even though it can have a significant effect on the outcome of an election no matter how large or how small.

 

How do you register to vote without a proper ID to prove who you are? If we are registering people without them proving who they are and where they live and that they are eligible to vote in that district and they letting people vote without again showing that ID then we just get rid of registering and anyone can walk into any polling and be given a ballot and allowed to vote.

 

and promptly lost all the committee evidence collected to date. Oh my.

 

as for rebuttal of the excuse Kobach whined about lack of cooperation the real story is somewhat more laughable in its obvious ineptness. A true trumpian win.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...mp-voter-fraud-myths-vote-suppression-990300/

 

If you have something to say then say it. The left/Dems/MSM concocted the phony campaign and convinced states not to cooperate for bogus reasons and the committee was disbanded unable to do it's work.

 

No significant voter fraud is demonstrated by the righties: none.

No Obama-gate criminal activity is demonstrated by the righties: none.

Conclusion: righties run off at the mouth.

 

Yes, you are embarrassing yourself.

 

If you can weed out vote fraud, as small as it is, without disenfranchising hundreds of thousands of voters, I'm open to suggestions.

See, your false premise is that I'm for voter fraud (because Im' against Voter ID), not true, but finding them when it disenfranchises 100x more voters than the Voter ID is supposed to fix, is not the answer.

 

What republicans are using voter ID is not as you suggest, that is the ruse, what's really going on it's as these political operatives shamelessly admit:



See the problem?

See, if the state can do voter ID without disenfranchising hundreds of thousands of minorities, as these political operatives are admitting to, then I'm all ears.

 

You're projecting.

 

Voting participation has gone UP in states the have instituted voter ID. How do they register to vote if they cannot prove who they are? And are you saying persons who cannot prove who they are and where they live should be able to vote, that's more nonsense. And le tme guess your "proof" relies on the debunked Brennen Center study.

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So there really is nothing behind the claim that 3.2 million voters will supposedly be unable to vote because of new voter-ID laws. This is especially true because these same types of claims were made in the federal lawsuits filed against voter-ID laws in Indiana and Georgia. Those lawsuits were dismissed because the plaintiffs were unable to produce a single individual, much less “millions” of voters, who would be unable to vote because of the requirement to show a photo ID. (Note: All of the states provide a free photo ID to anyone who can’t afford one). As a Heritage study found, sharply higher turnout in the 2008 and 2010 elections in Georgia and Indiana proved that voter ID does not prevent Democrats or minorities from voting. Five years later, the disastrous results that the Brennan Center has been predicting since 2006 have never materialized.


Next, the Brennan Center claims that 240,000 voters will be unable to vote because of new laws in Georgia, Kansas, and Arizona that require proof of citizenship to register to vote. Again, there is no evidence to support their numbers, which are based on their flawed 2006 study. In upholding Arizona’s proof of citizenship requirement in 2008, federal district court judge Roslyn Silver (a Clinton appointee) noted that the plaintiffs had “only produced one person . . . who is unable to register to vote due to” the new requirement and had produced no evidence that “the persons rejected are in fact eligible to register to vote.”

Georgia recently sued the Holder Justice Department because of its delay and dilatory tactics in reviewing Georgia’s proof-of-citizenship law under Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act. After the state filed suit, the Department immediately capitulated and precleared the law without objection because it was unable to produce a single scintilla of evidence that requiring proof of citizenship to vote was discriminatory or that any eligible U.S. citizens would be unable to vote."
https://www.heritage.org/election-integrity/commentary/new-myths-voter-id

Voter ID is a simple, effective and pragmatice means of helping to insure the integrity of our elections and the Constitution does not require to government to coddle citizens into voting.

 

I see the problem as noted that voter fraud is more easily accomplished without voter ID and by the measure of your video we should not even register voters because that is a "barrier".

No one has proven proper voter ID is a "barrier" to voting. To put our entire voting integrity on the live because of the very very very rare person who has not taken to proper personal responsibilty to have proper ID is more folly on your part.

 

That isn't true, it was disbanded because most of the states wouldn't go along and take the time to check it.

 

Watch the video I linked to.

 

I'm hear to discuss it with you and that means you respond to what I post then I respond to what you post. It's your turn.

 

Those

Those are all really nice bromides that chime nicely with your argument but that doesn’t make them valid. Illegals would not and do not fear deportation in states with left wing appointed judges aligned with lawyers willing to dodge or circumvent the
Federal law.
Saying that ID laws are a solution looking for a problem is based on a false premise that no problem could exist and that preventative measures are not worth the effort. No one is being denied the right to vote. And in most cases voters are offered free ids.
So the only conclusions we can make are that you (left) are unwilling or unable to protect the sanctity of elections, or youre engaging in a long term goal of integrating the armies of illegals in to yet another racial voting block.
But we all no you don’t care about the former and will lie cheat or steal to get the latter.

 

Concur.

That's how much trouble the Democrats are in.

They've been burning their own house down since 2016 (at least), and blaming everyone but themselves as they pour more gasoline on the fire.

 

Ongoing blatant denial noted.

 

If one cannot dazzle the audience with denial, baffle them with a bullsh*t video.

"If the vota fraud don't fit, you must acquit!"

 

You wrote:

You're looking for a simple, almost forensic, and here, folks, is exhibit A, I offer as 'evidence' for blah blah.

It's not like that. In order you grasp, fully, what i know about this, you'll have to go on a journey.

I gave you the short version, but the short version doesn't tell the story.

This is the short version, reiterated in the words of the ACLU.

https://www.aclu.org/other/oppose-voter-id-legislation-fact-sheet

It's the story that you need to learn, and stories are not told in short sentences.

If you truly want to find out, whether or not, in fact, that Vote ID is a problem for a lot of people, you'll need to follow me on a journey, and there are more dynamics to that than can be given in a post such as this.

Voter ID is only a part of the story.
The rest is here, here is the story
https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B07P76KK1S/ref=atv_dl_rdr?autoplay=1
If you are not willing, if you are not willing to take an hour of your life to find out the story, a story that I cannot fully deliver in a post, or even a webpage such as that offered by the ACLU, then let's just end the conversation.

 

Propagandists gotta propagandize.

 

Laughably false.

Obama: Sociopathic war criminal who belongs in prison for life

Conclusion: Denial's not just a rivet in the Empire State Building