Voter fraud is a myth

Over 20 years

 

No one is being disenfranchised, if the polls are open there's no reason for mass mail ins. If you have a legitimate reason for an absentee ballot that's different. If the polls are unable to open in November the election should be postponed rather than the absurd idea of mail in voting. This is just another desperate ploy to remove Trump from office the sanctity of the vote be damned. Ain't gonna happen.

 

If I know where you vote I can find all the security measures that they have in place to prevent fraud. You offer personal speculation based on nothing.

 

Oregon has been voting ONLY by mail for 30 years and our Republicans have consistently failed to find measurable voter fraud. So your story is bullshit.

 

Evidence of voter fraud doesn’t necessarily need to be the reason for stricter ID laws. Your court case after court case after study after study may be all well and it may disprove an argument of past voter fraud, but that is one counter argument based on the premise of another argument.
As the nation grows and the attitude toward non-citizens has softened, the likelihood of voter fraud will inevitably increase. Liberals on the most part don’t see that as a problem.
Illegal aliens can get drivers licenses use public schools, get public assistance (theft btw) but you’re telling us there is no reason to think they won’t vote?
Theres also the mistrust liberals have built with the public in refusing to enforce immigration law locally. Going out of their way to deceive, harbor and protect non citizen criminals at every turn.
Elections are far to valuable to be left unchecked.

 

Someone should definitely stop.

 

Yep, that's why President Trump is the first elected official in the entire history of democracy to challenge the veracity of an election that he won.

 

Republicans have consistently failed at a number of things.

 

Why, they're almost as bad as the Democrats!

 

Except we really don't know, do we?

 

Antiduopolist is the best thing for the Democrats this fall.

 

You mean other than the fact that we are in the midst of a global pandemic that has killed over 100,000 people so far?

Yea...it does. ID laws and caging and all the other disenfranchisement efforts are a "solution" looking for a problem and it keeps legal voters from voting

There's no reason because they CAN'T vote...nor would they risk deportation to do so.

 

No, I don't know. I don't use Google.

 

Oregon is an intensely blue state, surprise, surprise!!! They've got this election rigging thing down. Please tell me it's all above board. I live in Massachusetts the bluest and also the most corrupt state in the US. The Democrats here have a long history of stuffing the ballot box and it's become an institution even something they joke about it. Vote early and vote often originated in Boston. Elizabeth Warren rigged the election by sending voter registration forms out with state welfare checks and nobody blinked. The notion that the Democrat party is an upstanding, honest entity is bullshit and anyone that votes Democrat who doesn't know that is either dishonest themselves or just plain stupid. Either way voting Democrat supports and encourages institutional corruption.

 

You believe votes for Presidential Electors are the only elections held in this country? What utter nonsense.
And I would note that in 2000 the winner fame down to just 236 votes in the state of Florida. There are over 1500 voting precincts in the state of Floridian so only 1 fraudulent vote in just 1 out of 6 precincts could have changed the outcome.

I would then once again point out that which party would control the entire statehouse in the state of Virginia in 2016 could have been decided by ONE FRAUDULENT VOTE. Then of course the Al Franken election. Bob Dormant in California just to name a couple of the more infamous elections.

So stop with the canard that voter fraud is not important because of our assertion it doesn't happen much. There are thousands of elections in this country from the proverbial local dog catchers up to statewide offices and then every four years for state Presidential Electors. In all of them legal voters can be disfranchised by fraudulent votes.

 

It was disbanded because too many states refused to cooperate and submit their voter data after a bogus left-wing effort to discredit it and possible expose the problem and support such rational and pragmatic measures as voter ID.

 

But wait...I thought the majority of the states are Republican.


Hmmmm

 

ALL ELECTIONS are important and their integrity vital to our system of government.

 

Lack of rebuttal noted.

 

The serious flaws in your argument is that it is not difficult to vote with an ID and it takes a minimal of fraudulent votes, a mere one as I noted, to have a significant effect on the outcome of an election and the political balance in a state or even in a Presidential election. Go read up on the Kennedy election and the voter fraud in Chicago that helped him win the Presidency.

 

Nope. I'm not going to do your homework for you. Put up or

This thread does not contain links to reliable sources.

I'll try one more time: if you aren't just making it up, please provide a link proving the "MASSIVE voter fraud" via mail-in ballots. If your information only comes from others on this thread, don't bother to reply. I want to see YOUR source, not theirs.

 

I lived in Massachusetts until I moved out here. Voter fraud there is not as you claim. Elizabeth Warren's mailing of registration forms was not wrong. ANYBODY can obtain a registration form. It's the election board that must confirm qualifications.

Oregon is a blue state with a large Republican presence in our House and Senate. The Secretary of State who would be the one to call for investigations of elections has been a Republican for at least the last 3 years as well, and although the Republicans hate mail-in-voting, they consistently fail to produce evidence of voter fraud.

 

As Secy State Georgia ( now gov ) Brian Kemp, in search of a few fraudulent votes, purged 106,000 names from the Georgia voter registration rolls.
https://www.gregpalast.com/kemp-loses-vote-purge-suit-brought-by-reporter-palast/
Kris Kobach, partnered with 29 red states who sent him their voter registration rolls, ran it all through a program called 'Interstate Crosscheck',
and in search of a few fraudulent votes, purged 1.1 million names, and in the swing states, the purged count vastly exceeded the 77,000 votes Trump won by. https://www.gregpalast.com/election-stolen-heres/ and Palast won the suit and now IC is being suspended because was determined that a flaw in the design of the program biased it against minorities, who were disproportionately being purged, but the motivation claimed was 'cleaning the rolls of duplicate names'. However, many legit voters, especially of color, were being purged.

That's where your logic wanes.

 

If you read the OP, it takes a documentary to demonstrate that the practical reality of Voter Id, while it's easy for 90% of the population, it's not so easy to 10%. That 10% ( or whatever the actual percentage is ) represents hundreds of thousands of voters, far more than 'fraudulent' votes, which the studies I pointed, a dozen of them, disproved that it's not a problem to be solved because Voter ID shrinks the electorate such that the vote would not accurately represent the 'will of the people' if a large group is disenfranchised. It's easy for you to sit there and say that, but to understand what is really going on in the real world, you'll need to watch the film, and consider the possibility that you could be wrong, so keep and open mind, and watch the film
https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B07P76KK1S/ref=atv_dl_rdr?autoplay=1

 

Were you born here? Were you in a coma while you lived here?