Would you eat at a restaurant where the workers are armed?

So you must only eat fast food.....that explains the healthy visage.

 

I don't understand. What is Shooters Grill? And why would anyone be armed in a restaurant except on-duty cops having something to eat?

Are you kidding? People going around with weapons in public restaurants?

 

Some of us feel we were born 150-200 years after our time. Clearly you are not one such individual. You would have been even more dazed and confused had you lived in the central or western US in the 1800’s!

People besides cops go all over in public with weapons all day everyday (and night). Why exclude restaurants?

 

The Aussie version of the American craziness

 

Or at home.

 

Contrary to popular misconception the denizens of the "Old West" were not armed to the teeth 24/7. Most towns had ordinances against carrying weapons. Now people did frequently go armed in rural areas but that was because venomous serpents were much more plentiful then than now.

We are MUCH more likely to encounter armed people in built-up areas now than we were back then. In the 19th century being armed was seen as extremely uncouth rather than some sort of manhood test

 

you said sitting on the seat... secured in a gun rack is different

as those are not concealed, why would the cop ask you for a concealed carry permit for them?

 

So you are saying that people in general are more stupid today then they were a hundred years ago.
Totally goes against Darwin's theory of evolution.

 

The person you addressed did not claim to be perfect. That person stated an opinion. Why the personal attack?

Superior? I tell you what, from the sounds of it your words sound like you get easily spooked by people who disagree with you. If that is the case stay away from guns.

 

No its not. Evolution is not a straight curve of progression. Please go read the theory again.

 

Again your analogy makes zero sense. One goes to a police station because police officers enforce the law. Their specific duty is to enforce the law and not that you noticed but not all police in police stations wear weapons. If they do, they are part of a specific profession that requires them. When you go to a restaurant you go to eat, not enforce laws.

If you can't differentiate the two, please stay away from guns and hot surfaces.

 

As usual you have fallen for disinformation. The carrying of weapons was not prohibited as you have likely been led to believe in places like Tombstone. It was common to carry there, you just had to have a permit. Here is the pertinent part of the actual ordinance.

Furthermore, for every large settlement that could support law enforcement of some kind, how many small towns couldn’t? You are extrapolating a few ordinances to millions of square miles of settlements. Beyond that, these ordinances were not common in the west until the late 1800’s.

Now, I’m engaged in the type of work most westerners and midwesterners were in that time period so know a bit about firearms usage and snakes. I believe you have fallen for a very strange misconception. Nobody went around shooting snakes with a side arm contrary to what you have seen in movies. Here are just a few reasons, not at all comprehensive.
1) ammunition was expensive. There is almost always a cheaper option be it a shovel, axe, stick, rope or latigo (which i have put to the test and found is surprisingly effective).

2) It is quite difficult for even an above average shooter to dispatch a snake with one round of conventional ammunition. The above methods are much more likely to result in a dead snake than shooting at it.

3) In most cases working folks on the frontier did not wish to advertise their location unnecessarily. Being inconspicuous was the best method of self defense from most threats (and yes, there were more threats than just snakes LOL). Nobody was going around shooting unless there was a dang good reason to do so. Shooting a snake was not a good reason.

4) For those working with livestock, firing a gun at a snake is likely to cause more problems than the snake ever would. When you are gathering, driving or holding livestock, shooting is generally an activity of last resort.

It was not considered uncouth on the frontier. Perhaps on the east coast and some southern states. In the 19th century west and Midwest firearms were a common tool, just as they are today.

In the context of this thread, would you care to explain how straight waitresses with firearms are trying to pass some “manhood test”? This sounds interesting—please elaborate.

 

I grew up hunting, fishing, boating, camping, playing sports and all outdoor activities. So I'd suffer no anxiety eating there. Besides, who could bow up at a pretty girl hipping a Glock. I suspect that many of those who wouldn't eat there probably harbor a deep seated resentment towards authority. Then there are those who are racked with irrational fears of snakes, spiders, guns, other people, going outside, the sight of blood, etc. Still others are such snowflakes that something as basic as breaking dirt for a foundation seems a hostile and violent act. And to some degree it is. To each their own I guess. If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen. And go find some other way to contribute. BTW, casting aspersions from ivory towers is not a contribution...just a declaration of ignorance and a self righteous proclamation of false authority.

 

I know. It's as if people have their own lives, thoughts, opinions, likes and dislikes.

 

Ironically Coca Cola IS bad for ones health.

 

Ok, will do.

 

The only place where firearms are a "common tool" in the west and Midwest are poor urban areas.

The laws of Tombstone at the time required visitors, upon entering town to disarm, either at a hotel or a lawman's office. (Residents of many famed cattle towns, such as Dodge City, Abilene, and Deadwood, had similar restrictions.)

"Tombstone had much more restrictive laws on carrying guns in public in the 1880s than it has today,” says Adam Winkler, a professor and specialist in American constitutional law at UCLA School of Law. “Today, you're allowed to carry a gun without a license or permit on Tombstone streets. Back in the 1880s, you weren't.” Same goes for most of the New West, to varying degrees, in the once-rowdy frontier towns of Nevada, Kansas, Montana, and South Dakota.

The practice was started in Southern states, which were among the first to enact laws against concealed carry of guns and knives, in the early 1800s.

Frontier towns with and without gun legislation were violent places, more violent than family-friendly farming communities and Eastern cities of the time, but those without restrictions tended to have worse violence. “I've never seen any rhetoric from that time period saying that the only thing that's going to reduce violence is more people with guns,” says Winkler. “It seems to be much more of a 20th-century attitude than one associated with the Wild West.”

Read more: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/gun-control-old-west-180968013/

 

Sure. Why not?

 

They are common tools where I live. Those who use them most are in the top 1% to 10% by net worth! LOL

Your stereotype above is like claiming all black people in St. Louis are murderers.

How did you miss my pull quote of THE ACTUAL STATUTE FROM TOMBSTONE? It clearly states carrying firearms was not prohibited. You just had to have written permission from the sheriff. Your source is biased and ignorant.

I’m familiar with the misinformation in that piece. I debunked a bit of it above by quoting Tombstone’s actual policy as opposed to what some writer wished it to be.

I stopped taking Smithsonian seriously years ago when they stated that Fritz Haber, the German nationalist scientist was evil. Not because his invention of the process to make nitrogen fertilizer extended Germany’s ability to prosecute WW1 for a year longer than they could have otherwise. Not because he developed and helped release 400 tons of chlorine gas on allied troops at Ypres. Not because he developed the insecticide Zyklon B that was used to kill a million Jews (some of which were his own family) after being expelled from Germany for having Jewish heritage. No, Smithsonian hated him because his invention of commercial nitrogen fertilizer allowed an explosion of food production ending most mass starvation and leading to increased world population. Nah, Smithsonian is a bunch of nuts. I’ll stick with facts and leave you to lap up their verifiably false information.

 

I do not recall drinking Coca Cola since sometime in the 1900s.

 

I would feel safer there than in the US Capitol where cops gun down white female victims.

 

Criminals don't go where they know their victims are armed.

 

Apparently one goes into the US Capitol to be gunned down by cops. Such as Ashli Babbitt. I prefer that cafe and the ladies over that cop that was wild and loose with his pistol.

 

I was going to ignore this irrelevant post but figure with the false claims in it, might as well say my piece.
I only asked if the party is a superior human. That is no attack. If I ask are you a nice human, is that also an attack?

You accused me of not knowing a gun from a hot surface. I have fired far too many guns to ever confuse any of them with a hot surface. I have sold all but one of my own guns and it is a cool gun and not angry like Democrats are.
Weapons I have fired. I wonder if you fired these?
.50 Cal machine gun
.45 cal Army grease gun, so called. (Automatic fire)
M1 Garand
30 Cal Carbine
30.06 BAR automatic fire rifle
M-60 machine gun
M-14 Automatic Rifle ... machine gun in other words
M16 machine gun
.30 cal machine gun
Number of deaths by my using guns ... ZERO
I also have tossed hand grenades
I also fired the 3.5 Rocket weapon used on Tanks

 

I have been in restaurants where cops came in and they had pistols on them.
As the word spreads about Rifle, there is no doubt in my mind we will not be reading reports that the patrons were killed by the girls nor by armed intruders.