What should the West's reaction be to a Russian invasion of Ukraine be?

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What should the West's reaction be to a Russian invasion of the Ukraine?

  1. War!

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  2. Supply the Ukrainians to the hilt and bleed the Russkies dry

    9 vote(s)
    27.3%
  3. Economic sanctions

    8 vote(s)
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  4. Diplomatic protests

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  5. Other?

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    45.5%
  1. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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  2. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Encourage Putin in what? In having to protect the Russians in the Republics when the neo Nazis begin their mass genocide?

    Or encourage Putin in having to place missiles aimed at Europe and us unless we remove ours? I don't see where Vladimir Putin is being left with any choice.


    The Europeans do not want a war in Europe in support of fascists and neo Nazis installed by Nuland & company in Kiev, but since the EU is an American satellite, does it have a choice?

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  3. Kranes56

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  4. Jeannette

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    Only the lands that were given to Ukraine by Lenin and Khruschev were Russian. But they're the most heavily populated and the most prosperous and they were carrying all of Ukraine.

    This is why the fascists in Kiev do not want to let go of the lands - yet they want to change the demographics because if the 2 Republics rejoin Ukraine as per the Minsk II agreement, they will be in the majority and the fascists will be kicked out of office.

    Their only solution is to kill and ethnically cleanse the people in the Republics, so right now they have hired terrorists from the Middle East as well as neo Nazis lined up along the demarcation line that separates the 2 Republics from Ukraine.

    Also they are being given heavy weaponry from the US, so if they move against the Republics the people will be massacred. This is something Russia won't allow, so they are being watched carefully.
     
  5. Reasonablerob

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    You know, you'd think a man as clever as Putin would be more subtle with it's propaganda, when it's so over the top it is easy to spot!
     
  6. Jeannette

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    It's not propaganda. I've been following the situation in Ukraine ever since Nuland's coup. Other than the neo Nazis, there are also terrorist mercenaries from Idlib lined up at the Donetsk demarcation line -. compliments of Turkey

    They've been bombing the Donetsk infrastructure and civilian areas to kill and ethnically cleanse the inhabitants for years. They're now finding unmarked mass graves in the areas occupied by the neo Nazis and have sent the reports to the Hague.

    One move by the Nazis and terrorists past that line, and that will be the end of them. They're being watched closely.

     
  7. Reasonablerob

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    It's rubbish and you know it, Putin is a dictator who is picking a fight to distract his people from their troubles at home, Ukraine is entirely innocent in all this.
     
  8. Hey Now

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    Vlad's got an itch, he's hoping someone will notice OR he is distracting from his authoritarian move to dictatorship, Memorial for example. Likely answer, BOTH.
     
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    We didn’t raise our children to die for Ukraine.

    And what about the Brits, the French, the Germans, the Italians, the Poles?

    It’s their friggin continent, for chrissakes.
     
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  10. Jeannette

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    Oh well if you say so, then it must be true. :roll:



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  11. Jeannette

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    What troubles at home unless you mean Zalensky whose army has been sitting in trenches since May? Ah yes projection, it is alive and well - or is it propaganda?

    After the burning and hacking of the Russian protesters in Odessa, where the unofficial death toll is about 200 since the people are still missing, the Russian people of Donetsk and Lugansk held a referendum. Yanukovich was still the president and suggested on TV that instead of uniting with Russia, that they should vote for special rights within Ukraine. Instead of speaking to them after the vote, this was Poroshenko's response:


     
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    Oh, then you don't mind having foreign nations like Russia, Iran and China supporting NGO's in our country. That way they could analyze the actions of our leaders actions and rewrite our history for us in a way that would suit them? Good for you, I didn't think you were so open minded.
     
  13. Hey Now

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    But, of course!
     
  14. Ddyad

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    Ukraine gave up its nukes. Game over.
     
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  15. Jeannette

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    The Washington neo cons are using Ukraine to start a war between Europe and Russia. This way if they destroy one another, they'll be able to buy up everything and re-establish their dominance the way we did after WWII.

    Surprise, surprise. Russia won't be hitting only our Nato satellites. They have their hypersonic missiles aimed at the instigators of the war; which is us. If I lived in NYC, Houston, or Washington, I'd move out and fast.

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  16. Jeannette

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    Thank God! Can you imagine if those nukes were to fall into the hands of the Nuland installed neo Nazis? It would make the genocides of Slavs and Jews look like child's play.

    Anyway Vladimir Putin's concern is the protection of the Russian nation and the Russian majority in Ukraine who have been suffering immensely under the Fascist government. So there's no way he'll use nukes.

    If Putin has to take over Ukraine, which is becoming more likely considering the stance of certain idiots in Nato and Washington, I hope he has plans to shut down the airports immediately. Also to block all exists from Ukraine, that way they 'll be able to grab the criminals before they leave.


    Putin has over three large books which he calls his White Books with testimonies from people of the atrocities committed by the neo Nazi government in Kiev. He wants very much to hold a Nuremburg style trial - not that we'll ever be allowed to watch it or know the truth.
     
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    Russia is not going to hit the U.S. mainland. Putin is a lot of things, but stupid isn't one of them.

    And another thing, Comrade "Jeanette" ... If Russia invades Ukraine, Russia is the instigator of war, not the U.S., not anyone else. All Russia has to do to not be an instigator of war is to keep her troops on her side of the border. In the U.S., comrade, we call that "easy smeezy".
     
  18. Jeannette

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    Hey Rip Van Winkle, the Soviet Union collapsed in 1990. It's inheritor is the one world order of the Washington ideologues that's being imposed on us. But that's beyond you. Can't expect much from a brain washed nation where coups are called democracy in action, and our Nato satellites are called the 'free world'.

    So what you're telling me is that when Kiev's neo Nazi army and its mercenary terrorists from the Middle East start massacring the Russians in Donetsk and Lugansk that Russia shouldn't try to protect them?


    Oh well, since you assume they're untermenchen, I guess then it's okay then for them to die - and a heil Hitler to you too.

     
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    A smart USG would have started 'colluding' with Russia against China long ago.
    IOW, little chance of that happening. ;-)
     
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    The West shall stay away from Russian business.
    Russia doesn't side with Mexico and helps it to get California, Nevada, Utah, most of Arizona, the western half of New Mexico, the western quarter of Colorado, and the southwest corner of Wyoming back.

    Ukraine stole many Russian territorials, severely discriminate ethical Russians, performs ethnically cleansing Russian territorials, murdered more as 50,000 Russians and is gonna be NATO military base for the US nukes.
    Who will tolerate is?

    WWIII is highly possible and the West shall stay away from the conflict.
    Russia is laughing about Western 'sanctions', at best it shall take all its former territorials back and give the remaining Ukrainian beggars to be feed by EU.

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    The US gov't cares a **** about opinion of Americans.
    WWIII is badly needed for neocons
     
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    Russia has military cooperation with China.
    Do you want Russian unstoppable nukes visit most of important US locations?
     
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    In a couple of hours such missiles will be flying destination Yellowstone

     
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    But, I'm the most right-wing Conservative I know, and yet I certainly don't want any new 'adventures' for us to throw American lives and money at in Ukraine!
     
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