“Ribs & (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)”, core American value?

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  1. Ddyad

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    “Ribs and (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)”, core American value, or just one of the dreams of all our fathers?

    Still electable politicians seem to be aware that ribs and (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) represent core American values that are not likely to ever be rejected by voters in the voting booth.

    “Rather, this footage was taken from Barack Obama's appearance on the show "The Author Series" on 20 September 1995 (long before he ran for the presidency) in which he read excerpts from his book Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance. The full clip shows that President Obama was describing a conversation he had with someone else about Malcolm X's beliefs, and that the "ribs and (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) too" line was spoken by another character in the book.” Snipes, Ribs and POTUS Too, Dan Evans, 10/7/16.
    http://www.snopes.com/obama-demands-rib#!

    Which is undoubtedly why Obama chose to insert that expression in his book, Dreams from My Father, and select it for a public televised reading as he began his public political career.
     
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    Its a quote from another person.

    You understand that people aren't offended by the words Trump used, right? They are offended that he was bragging about sexual assault.
     
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    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They weren't offended by Bill Clinton, why should they be any more offended by Trump?
     
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    "I can't defend Trump. Quick! Deflect!"
     
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    Their not offended by anything that Trump did or said.
    The outrage is all phony nonsense - from a now fully exposed very phony political class.

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    They just do not have a clue about how ordinary Americans think.
     
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    Is there anything about this re-aired Access Hollywood story (over a decade old) that needs to be defended?
     
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    Only by a person seeking the Presidency.

    For someone NOT seeking the Presidency, it would most likely be a non-issue.

    That is the entire point that the pro-Trump echo chamber fails to grasp.
     
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    Johnson, Nixon, Carter, Bush, Bush Clinton... The political class has been lowering the bar for decades. Trump can skip over it with ease - especially when up against the Clintons.
     
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    The corrupt bipartisan political class that is now desperately united in its opposition to Trump can not be offended by anything but a challenge to its power. 'They have no shame'.
     
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    We have no proof that Billy Jefferson committed sexual assault.

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    They grasp it alright ig,s just that they are ignoring it.
     
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    We have a great deal of proof that Clinton committed rape and assault. To start 3 independent corroborating witnesses.

    More than enough to get Cosby indicted.
     
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    The guy engaged in some locker room talk....so what?
     
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    And what's the proof for Cosby? There are plenty of women that are corroborating the Billy Jefferson allegations. He paid Jones ($600K) not to continue the lawsuit.
     
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    Right! It is the 'reflection' of his character/behavior provided within the meaning of what he expressed, that is the problem.

    A 'single' simple apology does NOT make up for that.

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    Bill Clinton isn't running for President. (Even so, Trump would be a horrible candidate compared to him as well.)
     
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    Trump may have looked presentable for 90 minutes in last night's debate... but once one zooms out and sees the total package that he is, there is a lot to be very disgusted about; especially in light of the latest information we have about him.
     
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    I can't help wondering what president Putin thinks about this pantomime known as the US Presidential Election. In the spirit of PF comradeship I'll ask Destroyer of Illusions to find out for us. [​IMG]
     
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    Correct, but his enabler and attacker of the many women accusing him of sexual misconduct is. Is Bill banned from the White House, if he is then you might have a valid point? You knew he would be a huge liability if Hillary was chosen.
     
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    Bragging about sexual assault is "locker room talk"?
     
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    Talk is just words, Hillary actually did this..............

    ‘Enabler’ Hillary Clinton haunted by efforts to ‘destroy’ husband’s accusers

    Then had the gall to tweet this.......

    We can only ask Hillary if the accusers of her husband "have the right to be heard. Have the right to be believed." It seems not since they were attacked viscously for doing so. Is she that out of touch that she doesn't even realize things she said and did are available at the click of a mouse? It appears that Hillary's "solidarity" and the right to be heard and the right to be believed with victims of sexual assault extends only to women who haven't claimed "Bill" did it. Those women apparently have NO right to even be heard let alone be believed.
     
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    "Talk is just words"

    "Here let me show you some words Hillary Clinton said and show myself to be hypocritical in the extreme."

    So is talk just words or is it not? It seems to be when we are talking about Trump, but not when we are talking about Clinton?

    Maybe you should do the intellectually intelligent thing and not support either of them like I do.
     
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    Don't you think it funny that with all the feigned outrage at Trump's statement, the other participant in the conversation has been ignored? That is NBC Today Show Host Billy Bush. At first NBC planned no action against Bush. Their original statement was that the conversation took place 11 years, and that Bush would address the issue on Monday's show. It wasn't until NBC was hit with phone calls and social media comments that they decided to suspend Bush pending a review.

    NBC's original reaction was dripping with hypocrisy. Feign outrage against Trump, but claim that their own employee's participation was no big deal. Their original reaction proves that this is really a non issue even among zombies.
     
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    Bragging about sexual assault is a non-issue?
     
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    When compared to providing cover to and enabling your rapist husband, yes it is a non-issue. As far as I can tell, there have been only two women that have accused Trump of sexual assault. One was his wife that used a claim of rape to get a bigger settlement for their divorce settlement. She later walked back the statement. Obviously she could not fully recant a statement made under oath. The other was a lady that was in a breach of contract lawsuit that dropped the claim when the lawsuit settled. So, for actual sexual assaults or rapes by Trump, you have nothing.

    But you can not say the same for Bill Clinton, nor for the fact that Hillary openly worked to cover her serial rapist husband.
     
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    He's not running for President; not to mention that you cannot actually substantiate your accusations.
     
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    The evidence against Cosby will probably result in his conviction. The evidence against B. Clinton is stronger.
    The fact, that Hillary Clinton contrived to free a man who raped a 12 year old girl even though she knew he was guilty is a matter of record.
     

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