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  1. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Hydroxychloroquine has been the only known safe and effective treatment from the start of the Wuhan Virus pandemic.

    “A new study in the Lancet retrospectively analyzed 96,000 patient medical records from December 2019 to investigate the effects of hydroxychloroquine on COVID-19 patients. The 15,000 patients who were treated with the drug had a 34% increase in risk of mortality and a 137% increased risk of serious heart arrhythmia, these risks were even high for those who were also treated with an antibiotic. This study only confirms previous understanding that hydroxychloroquine has no benefit in treating COVID-19 patients and may increase the risk of adverse cardiovascular events.21 The WHO is halting the hydroxychloroquine portion of its Solidarity Trial, which aims to find new treatments for COVID-19 patients, following the new Lancet study.22 “
    COVID-19 Updated Data and Developments, by Jeannette Jiang, Emily Peterson and Robert Heimer - 5.25.2020,May 27, 2020
    https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/24977/

    Fake Science Kills.
     
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    it has to be taken with zinc, but they will allow the mortality instead of adding a vitamin with the drug.
     
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    In fact, it has been known from the beginning that HCQ is a very effective treatment for the Wuhan Virus.
    The use of this very effective treatment has been suppressed by a collaboration between Fake Science and Fake News.

    "While debate rages in France over Professor Didier Raoult's recommendation of a mixture of chloroquine (an antimalarial) and azithromycin (an antibiotic) to treat patients with Covid-19, some African countries have taken it very seriously. Such is the case in Cameroon, which has embraced the French professor's method of treatment."

    FRANCE 24, Covid-19: In Cameroon, chloroquine therapy hailed by French expert becomes state protocol, By David RICH, 03/05/2020.
    https://www.france24.com/en/2020050...ailed-by-french-expert-becomes-state-protocol
     
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    I'm sorry...how the **** is that the only sane thing to be done?
     
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    IOW, you know that Fake Political Science and Fake News have been used to stop the use of the only effective treatment for the Wuhan Virus Pandemic.

    How many lives would have been saved if this known effective treatment had been provided before patients became critically ill?

    Answer: Tens of thousands in the US alone.
     
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    I'm sorry...what the **** is wrong with you? Are you legitimately quoting a study published from Yale University which says, "the drug had a 34% increase in risk of mortality and a 137% increased risk of serious heart arrhythmia" as proof that the drug is "the only known safe and effective treatment?"
     
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    Please don't take hydroxy and zinc simply because a man who thought injecting disinfectants into the body was a potentially good idea said to do so.
     
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    no, they are right but there is no money made with zinc.

    the drug alone is dangerous without zinc for those people.
     
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    Yale, Johns Hopkins, and Oxford University have been kind enough to give you this heads-up about the Fake Political Science/disinformation you have relied on.
    Lancet was forced to retract and apologize after it was caught publishing Fake Science denouncing HCQ. Think it through.

    "Hydroxychloroquine+azithromycin has been widely misrepresented in both clinical reports and public media, and outpatient trials results are not expected until September. Early outpatient illness is very different than later hospitalized florid disease and the treatments differ. Evidence about use of hydroxychloroquine alone, or of hydroxychloroquine+azithromycin in inpatients, is irrelevant concerning efficacy of the pair in early high-risk outpatient disease.

    Five studies, including two controlled clinical trials, have demonstrated significant major outpatient treatment efficacy. Hydroxychloroquine+azithromycin has been used as standard-of-care in more than 300,000 older adults with multicomorbidities, with estimated proportion diagnosed with cardiac arrhythmias attributable to the medications 47/100,000 users, of which estimated mortality is <20%, 9/100,000 users, compared to the 10,000 Americans now dying each week. These medications need to be widely available and promoted immediately for physicians to prescribe."

    AMERICAN JOURNAL OF EPIDEMIOLOGY, Early Outpatient Treatment of Symptomatic, High-Risk Covid-19 Patients that Should be Ramped-Up Immediately as Key to the Pandemic Crisis, By Harvey A Risch, American Journal of Epidemiology, kwaa093, https://doi.org/10.1093/aje/kwaa093, Published: 27 May 2020. (Published by Oxford University Press on behalf of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.)
    https://academic.oup.com/aje/advance-article/doi/10.1093/aje/kwaa093/5847586
     
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    Fake News.

    Take HCQ because the Journal of Epidemiology has concluded that it is the only very effective treatment for anyone infected with the Wuhan Virus, and that its use "needs be ramped up immediately".

    AMERICAN JOURNAL OF EPIDEMIOLOGY, Early Outpatient Treatment of Symptomatic, High-Risk Covid-19 Patients that Should be Ramped-Up Immediately as Key to the Pandemic Crisis, By Harvey A Risch, American Journal of Epidemiology, kwaa093, https://doi.org/10.1093/aje/kwaa093, Published: 27 May 2020. (Published by Oxford University Press on behalf of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.)
    https://academic.oup.com/aje/advance-article/doi/10.1093/aje/kwaa093/5847586
     
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    No meny in Zinc or HCQ.
     
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    This is the final paragraph from the one study you want to rely upon:

    "But for the great majority, I conclude that HCQ+AZ and HCQ+doxycycline, preferably with zinc (47) can be this outpatient treatment, at least until we find or add something better, whether that could be remdesivir or something else. It is our obligation not to stand by, just “carefully watching,” as the old and infirm and inner city of us are killed by this disease and our economy is destroyed by it and we have nothing to offer except high-mortality hospital treatment. We have a solution, imperfect, to attempt to deal with the disease. We have to let physicians employing good clinical judgement use it and informed patients choose it. There is a small chance that it may not work. But the urgency demands that we at least start to take that risk and evaluate what happens, and if our situation does not improve we can stop it, but we will know that we did everything that we could instead of sitting by and letting hundreds of thousands die because we did not have the courage to act according to our rational calculations."

    The doctor most definitely does not conclude that Hydroxy + Azyth is the only very effective treatment and he indeed calls the solution imperfect, but effectively says that this medication should be made available because we are losing too many people currently.
     
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    Focus here: "Symptomatic, High-Risk Covid-19 Patients that Should be Ramped-Up Immediately as Key to the Pandemic Crisis".

    There is no other effective treatment against the Wuhan Virus. The studies aimed at stopping the use of HCQ have been exposed as Fake Science. Political Science Fraud. "This is a shocking example of research misconduct in the middle of a global health emergency."

    "The lead author, Prof Mandeep Mehra, from the Brigham and Women’s hospital in Boston, decided to ask the Lancet for the retraction because he could no longer vouch for the data’s accuracy.
    Related: How were medical journals and WHO caught out over hydroxychloroquine?
    The journal’s editor, Richard Horton, said he was appalled by developments. “This is a shocking example of research misconduct in the middle of a global health emergency,” he told the Guardian."
    THE GUARDIAN, Covid-19: Lancet retracts paper that halted hydroxychloroquine trials, By Sarah Boseley Health editor, June 5, 2020.
    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/worl...-halted-hydroxychloroquine-trials/ar-BB152Zo4

    In fact doctors have been hoarding HCQ for themselves from the start because they know it works.
     
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    Don't YOU @Arkanis

    Support Population Control?





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    Then the federal government should have no problem unloading the millions of tablets that they stockpiled and are now sitting on because the CDC revoked the emergency authorization for the use of this drug - because it increases risk and does not benefit those with covid-19.
     
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    Does anyone still believe that the CDC is a credible source of information?

    "On Feb. 13, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention sent out an email with what the author described as an “URGENT” call for help.

    The agency was struggling with one of its most important duties: keeping track of Americans suspected of having the novel coronavirus. It had “an ongoing issue” with organizing — and sometimes flat-out losing — forms sent by local agencies about people thought to be infected. The email listed job postings for people who could track or retrieve this paperwork."
    PROPUBLICA, "SERIES: CORONAVIRUS, Internal Emails Show How Chaos at the CDC Slowed the Early Response to Coronavirus, The CDC fumbled its communication with public health officials and underestimated the threat of the coronavirus even as it gained a foothold in the United States, according to hundreds of pages of documents ProPublica obtained., By Caroline Chen, Marshall Allen and Lexi Churchill March 26, 2020.
    https://www.propublica.org/article/...-cdc-slowed-the-early-response-to-coronavirus
     
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    Where did the Chinese Wuhan Virus come from?
    How was the Chinese Wuhan Virus spread around the world?

     
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    Millions.
     
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    Nada to do with the upload you quoted


    Ref.: edited out by, @Arkanis

    Don't YOU @Arkanis


    Support Population Control?



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    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    It's not China's fault if POTUS isn't able to protect his citizens.

    Most other western nations did better, largely because they didn't have Trump as their head of state.
     
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    The experts say it's going to disappear like magic when the weather warms up. It only has to get to 200 degrees in Arizona and everything will be ducky.
     
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    Presidents are not dictators. The USG and its Deep State bureaucracy are relied on to protect the public. Now everyone should know better to rely on government to do the right thing.

    "For much of February, the CDC kept a tight grip on who should be tested for the coronavirus, a strategy that has been criticized by epidemiologists for limiting the ability to track the spread of the disease.

    In a Feb. 19 presentation to state health officials, the CDC described the definition of a person who ought to be tested: You had to have had close contact with someone confirmed to have COVID-19, or to have traveled from China and then had respiratory symptoms and a fever at the same time.

    However, the CDC’s own guidance from a month prior, distributed to the states on Jan. 17, had a footnote that said that “fever may not be present in some patients,” such as people who had taken fever-lowering medications, according to one of the documents obtained by ProPublica. That caveat was not on the slides presented to the states in mid-February."
    PROPUBLICA, "SERIES: CORONAVIRUS, Internal Emails Show How Chaos at the CDC Slowed the Early Response to Coronavirus, The CDC fumbled its communication with public health officials and underestimated the threat of the coronavirus even as it gained a foothold in the United States, according to hundreds of pages of documents ProPublica obtained., By Caroline Chen, Marshall Allen and Lexi Churchill March 26, 2020.
    https://www.propublica.org/article/...-cdc-slowed-the-early-response-to-coronavirus
     
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    Governments that have acted quickly, with drastic measures, have had better results per capita than the US.

    Canada is one of them and many more.

    And Trudeau isn't a dictator.
     
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