11-year-old, upset at having to clean room, shoots grandmother before killing self/MOD WARNING

I really wish I understood what you mean when you say that.

It kinda sounds like you feel as though when a reason is found by the government to deny a firearm purchase that they sometimes opt not to pursue that discovery or enforce that law?

 

The point I wonder about most after reading your post is, do you feel as though you are telling gun owners something they don't already know?

 

Incredible that gun owners are putting their loved ones at such risk...

 

The facts are being ignored or dismissed.

I think this is due to the overwhelming truth that gun ownership greatly increases the chances of a firearm tragedy.

Study after study has been posted, and they're being ignored or dismissed rather than discussed.

This is both telling and tragic, and it's behavior that puts the 2nd at risk.

 

If they do know this, and choose guns over the lives and safety of their loved ones, I consider that tragic.

If they don't choose to embrace the truth that gun ownership greatly increases the chances of a firearm tragedy, that's telling and tragic as well.

Gun culture is basically destroying itself; Darwinism.

 

If anyone is ever denied a gun for any reason doesn't the NRA descend upon that pitiable denier with bevies of lawyers? And even if they don't, doesn't the belief that they might make firearm denial always a problematic proposition?

Such is the upshot when we permit mass murderers to have their own lobby, (or what can appear to be one)

 

It's the same thing as pool owner's knowing there is an inherent increased risk of drowning for having one. Gun owner's choose other ways to mitigate risks involved with firearm ownership, including safe storage and educating our children in firearm safety.

 

No, they do not get involved when a purchaser is denied a firearm due to a NICS check, hell the NRA helped pass the NICS check, I remember that because it's why I let my NRA membership lapse. If the FBI, who runs NICS, says "No", then the firearm dealer has no problem telling the purchaser "No". I've been present when it has happened a time or two.

 

I am against any deficit spending other than emergencies. Can't have the government spending money like my wife, debt will be the death of this country.

 

I'm glad I'm not the only person who sees the irony...

 

On the other hand... incarcerated criminals are no threat to society.

 

Laws that restrict the law abiding and have no effect on criminal access to firearms are repugnant to freedom.

 

What ever happened to locking your guns away and keeping the ammo in a separate location?

 

Maybe the kid knew where they were and how to get to them.

 

Then perhaps the tax cut while the economy is booming wasn't the answer, as it reduces revenue to reduce the debt/deficit.

 

Russian Roulette with loved ones - placing guns above the lives of one's family - is truly, deeply tragic for all concerned.

As we can see demonstrated here yet again, gun ownership greatly increases the chances of a firearm tragedy.

Guns are held by some to be more sacred than life.

 

There's no irony.

Doctors aren't the subject, but just ANOTHER deflection from the reality that gun ownership greatly increases the chances of a firearm tragedy.

Guns matter more than family to some.

Utterly tragic, as in the OP.

 

And yet gun ownership greatly increases the chances of a firearm tragedy.

How many loved one's must die as sacrifice to a fetish for deadly objects over life?

It's repugnant to sanity and decency.

 

The tragic reality is that gun ownership greatly increases the chances of a firearm tragedy.

What happened in this case is just another bad choice by a gun owner who valued a deadly object over a child's life.

 

Except imperfect firearm-related restrictions are what is already had in the united states at this point in time. Therefore there is no need to implement more imperfect restrictions on top of what currently exists.

 

Especially when said imperfect laws are not fully enforced.

 

Except for the simple fact that there is no evidence to actually support such a lucicrous claim. Certainly not to any greater degree than those who own swimming pools and bathtubs.

 

Because they are not actually facts.

From legal use, or illegal use? Be specific, which type of usage increases the chances of a tragedy to the greatest degree? It is either one or the other, not simply firearms use in general.

 

Unfortunately, this country has a thug class who think having a gun makes them tough. These thugs see guns as an accessory that they carry while roaming the hood. These thugs also lack the intelligence to secure their weapons so others including children can not access them. These thugs hang around neighborhoods where many others have the same behavior. All too often these thugs will encounter one another and instead of resolving their difference like men, they revert to the savages they are and use their guns. When this occurs the lemming all jump up and blame the guns.

Fortunately these thugs only make up a small percentage of gun owners. The majority of gun owners keep their weapons in safes or have trigger locks on them. They teach their children how to be responsible with a weapon. The concept that all gun owners should be punished for the less than 1% who abuse their gun rights is illogical and problematic.

Even though it has been proven that stricter gun laws will not reduce gun crime, the lemmings still follow the lead. Even though it is proven that criminals do not obey laws, the lemmings still follow the lead. Even though it is proven that having more guns in a community does not increase gun violence, the lemmings still follow the lead. Even though it has been proven time and time again that bans don't work, the lemmings want more bans.

Sadly this just proves another known fact. Lemmings can not think for themselves. They only know that they must blindly follow the lemming leader.

 

If the gun is the problem, then removing it would make everyone safe? Think knives, blunt instruments and fire as you try to sleep in the same house with that kid.