2018 Midterms: what have we learned

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  1. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You Liberals are delusional if you think that company can't pack up and move anywhere he wants to get the help he needs. Sure a business needs help, but he doesn't need it here. He can go anywhere he wants to get it. You need them more than they need you and having the Liberals keeping a war against them with high taxes and lots of regulations all the time, only drives them away like what Obama did. Then he has to replace them with cheaper paying service and part time jobs, just like he did.
     
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    Many who are ill have their incomes devastated, especially the mentally ill. People are falling out the bottom of society for the sake or private profits in the health care system. Modernity has changed the world, it undermines our nation's productivity and overall well being by not more properly investing in the healthcare system in a way that is more related to care and innovation. I think we all should pay what is needed for a National Health Service and recognize that healthcare will not work in a market system, but has to be subservient to the needs of humanity and not profits. Obviously this should be a burden on the wealthiest in society and corporations, who have created this historically unequal society.
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If your in a higher tax bracket, you should pay more. Don't expect those making much less than you to pay the same thing.
     
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    So you admit that you think humans can be property under large governments.

    Socialism does make humans property of the state. You can't out preform others, you cant succeed unless everyone else does. You are under complete control of the state and you get everything the slaves did when they were living on the plantation. Unless you are willing to ban another party from taking control ever again, you would have to live with their tyrannical whims while in power. Socialism on a national level will never work, not everyone wants to be forced to give up their rights to property and self determination as much as you do.

    Do not forget, the lame, sick, and weak were killed out right in "true socialist" countries like USSR and China. They starve to death now in Venezuela.
     
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    That's the plan! Eliminate private insurance, save for supplemental insurance.
     
  6. Mamasaid

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    Exactly right!
     
  7. PARTIZAN1

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    Yes, we all who have been here for at least 6 months should know the rules of thread creation. Does not matter leftists, rights, middle muddle we all need to abide by those rules.
     
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    When and if you catch those leftists ding that you just got to do and tell them yourself.
     
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    Nines is the third eating slug who crawled accross the White House lawn to claim that he recieved info from WH instead he brought classified committee to the WH. Thatbiscwhat turd eating slug dogs do.
     
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    The House is much closer to the people than the Senate. Representatives have local districts. They are much like city mayors in that respect, and they have two-year terms. Senators run state wide and after six years in the Senate, incumbent Senators are very difficult to defeat.

    For those reasons representatives are closer to the people. This election was obviously a referendum on Trump, according to Trump. The people spoke, and they wanted to rein in Trump. In addition, the people want a closer look at Trump's tax returns and why our President is a lackey for the Russian communist dictator. They want a closer look at the emoluments clause and how much money Trump is making off his Presidency from foreign governments. The people also want to take a closer look at Trump's attempts to obstruct justice. They want to know more about the Trump Tower meeting where Trump's son, Trump's son-in-law, and Trump's campaign manager met with four representatives of the Russian government at Trump's home and how much Trump knew about the meeting. The Republican Congress have been investigating these issues for nearly two years and they are keeping the results of their investigations from the people.

    That is why the Republicans lost the House. The American people have had it with this guy, and his countless lies will no longer seem so important.
     
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    Why should they get subsidized?
    Cant you pay your own way?
     
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    Because I think basic healthcare should be a right. Same reason we subsidize children's education: it's a right. I'm offering to help pay your way, please get it straight.
     
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    You think you should get free **** courtesy of your fellow taxpayers?
     
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    Not just me, everyone. Correct, we should. Education comes to mind. Infrastructure comes to mind. Do you think you are embarrassing me, with your simple minded take? You're not.
     
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    Despicable people think their neighbors owe them something
     
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    I think before we can move forward we need to call things for what they are instead of bolstering for criminals. What kind of power would the Dems have right now if they held Hillary accountable? They would have so much collateral to work with against a President they despise. Instead what do we have?

    Hillary wasn't found guilty because of the alignment in our Federal Law Enforcement. If you are going to look past the Uranium deal, the lost emails, the server issue, the Steele Dossier, money paid to the Clinton Foundation, the Lynch/Clinton meeting on the tarmac, and the abandonment of Chris Stevens in Benghazi like nothing ever happened you will never get the GOP side of the equation (which you need) to rustle any of Trumps feathers.

    Instead of Americans fighting each other for bragging rights, we all together (Dems, and Repubs) should be demanding answers no matter who is at fault. You want my vote to Impeach Trump, then you need to hold everyone accountable. They are all liars in some respect, not just Clinton but Trump as well.

    When America wakes up and comes out from under their parties anesthetic and decides to stop protecting their candidates at all cost we can accomplish a lot. The longer we fight among ourselves taking up for these ********s with our cute Memes and finger pointing, the longer this will continue much further past 2020 or 2024.
     
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    Oh no, I've been insulted by the guy from the year 1500 who is claiming taxes are theft...whatever will I do...
     
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    All he has to do is present the evidence his GOP collegues worked hard to hide. Most of it is already out there. Then watch Trump Administration officilas and hangers on plead the fifth. There will be a lot of that in the next two years.

    Let's finally ask Jared Kushner what he was doing trying to set up covert back door contacts with the Russian FSB and the White House before his father in law was in office.

    Let's ask why mercenary cretin Eric Prince was in the Seychelles playing footsie with the Russians.

    Let's find out why a server in the Trump Orgainization was communicating with one of the favorite banks for Russian money launderers.

    Let's find out about Ryan Zinke's no bid contract to two friends to rebuild the electrical grid in Puerto Rico.

    Let's ask Ben Carson about steering contracts to his relatives (and almost undoubtedly Armstrong Williams too).

    Let's find out what really happened in that infamous Trump Tower meeting, and how many other meetings like that happened that we don't know about yet.

    Let's find out about Paul Manafort's offer of insider briefings on the Trump campaign to Putin's buddy Oleg Deripashka.

    Let's find out about how much the Russians are into Donald Trump (since they have been his principal financiars for over a decade).

    Let's find out about the money laundering that is widespread through Trump properties.

    Let's find out about what favors the oil industry did for Scott Pruitt, and investigate the fact that he never sent a single e-mail on his .gov account and how his door was open to industry lobbyists, many of whom got appointed to unravel the EPA on behalf of some of the nation's worst pollutors. (we've seen this before. Stephen Griles went to jail for the same thing during the Bush years, and his boss suddenly decided that she needed to spend more time with her family late on the Friday afternoon when Griles was convicted).

    Let's look into the deal and the influence peddling that is openly being practiced by Trump and his band.

    And that's just off the top of my head. There's plenty more.
     
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    They will go after Trump's taxes, and they are perfectly within their legal right to do so. And they won't have to ask him for them either.
     
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    None of it got looked past. All of it was investigated, often more than once. All of it was the subject of much grandstanding by GOP partisans and repeated made up claims by the right wing noise machine.

    It's pathetic to see Trumpsters going on about Hillary Clinton's e-mail server, when their hero is talking on an unsecured phone that the Russians are listening to.
     
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    Trump's tax returns? Well ... sounds like Nancy Pelosi's winning a Nobel prize! :sleepy:
     
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    What's pathetic is the monumental cover up which took place to spare Hillary and her team from consequences.Plus Awan brothers.People should"ve been jailed.You know it well.You are not stupid.
     
  23. Moi621

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    What have we learned?

    If You are a Republican, it is best to support your Republican President.
    Trump:
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-tries-spin-republican-losses-gop-defied-history-174529388.html
    He also said GOP candidates who decided to stay away from him on the campaign trail did very poorly — singling out Rep. Mia Love, R-Utah, by name.


    “Mia Love gave me no love and she lost,” Trump said. “Too bad. Sorry about that, Mia".



    I would like to see a breakdown of Congressional Republican losers
    Trump supporters vs Anti Trump, just Republican.


    Moi :oldman:
    Hillary mourners; I feel your pain over the House ;)
    Moi's Congressman Dana Rohrabacher (R) is a good man and served all :flagus: :(
    and he was replaced by a turd who fired an employee for having cancer.






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    No, I'm not. Which is why I don't put any faith in this noise. NO evidence exists that the Awan brothers had any link to any foreign intelligence service.

    And that's a claim that Donald Trump can't make!
     
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    Yeah, but trump is a "deal" man. I can see him giving up some gains for a deal.
     
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