6-year-old boy dies after being shot during road rage incident

A 6-year-old boy was fatally shot Friday in a suspected road rage incident while sitting inside a car being driven by his mother in Orange County, according to the California Highway Patrol.

The child was sitting in a booster seat in the back seat of the car traveling northbound on the 55 Freeway, said CHP Officer Florentino Olivera at a news conference on Friday. The boy was transported to a local hospital, where he was pronounced dead, Olivera said.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/21/us/boy-killed-road-rage-shooting-orange-county-california/index.html
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Stress on the road + availability of guns = unnecessary drama

With the ridiculous proliferation of guns in the US, you can make all sorts of combinations like this:

Alcohol + guns
Work frustrations + guns
School bullying + guns
Couple's bickering + guns....

Guns are the freedom to vent your frustration when the need arises.

We aren't going to cry for an innocent 6 year old child when the guy who shot him was only exercising his sacred right to have a gun to defend himself...

No ?

 

It doesn't matter. A classroom full of 6 years old kids were gunned down in Sandy Hook. Didn't even make a dent in the battle between 2As and non-2As.

 

The 55 freeway along with the 91 freeway are hot spots for road rage because traffic is always jammed and everyone is in a rush.

When I lived in CA I tried to get a hand gun and it's next to impossible. Based on the story, I find it hard to believe that anyone who could legally buy a hand gun would shoot at another car in a road rage accident and then bolt. Almost certainly the gun used in this murder was illegally purchased. And if this is not a road rage incident due to driving conditions, then it might be another case where someone was simply dissed, and we all know how some people react to being dissed.

The irony about California is they made it so hard for people to buy guns legally, yet all the gang bangers have them.

 

It's not like gangbangers are going through the proper channels. You can get a handgun illegally.

 

That was my point. How do you stop the illegal guns?

 

If we worried as much about forks causing obesity as some people do guns having f***-all to do with crime, imagine how thin everyone would be?

 

Why would we cry? This is what biological selection is all about. The stupid and unfit are taken out of the gene pool by their own actions. This kind of stuff does not happen to people with IQs above 100.

 

the governments dietary recommendations cause obesity, the truth needs to get out there, high carb processed food diets are killing people and ruining lives

 

and how many die from vehicle crashes, but we still have them

we accept that some will die from cars, the same is true of guns

the only gun I support some restrictions on are the ar-15

 

Yuppp, that's it, someone criminally missused a gun, now lets just take them all from hundreds of millions of law abiding gun owners.....and the left calls us the "fascist"....incredible.

 

That innocent people die from the violence of guns is an inevitability.

But only in the US.

Because elsewhere, in all the developed countries of this planet, measures are taken to stop the killings.

Because in the US, when a teenager enters an elementary school and kills 27 children or when a lunatic shoots up 60 spectators of a country show etc... there are people who claim that we need more guns.

Everywhere else, people have realized that gun control is a public safety issue.

But not in the US.

 

Comparing a car with a gun is stupid.

Unless of course you consider that it is just as effective to perpetrate a mass murder with a car.

 

You do realize the annual death toll is roughly the same?

 

Guns don't kill people - bullets kill people. If you can make ammo scarce and therefore expensive you get your wish. Just don't call it gun control that's a loser.

 

we were talking about this case

how many die or are harmed from vehicles every year?
how many die or are harmed from guns every year?

if people used those that's to ban vehicles and push mass transit... would be the same

 

May I?.....Here come the inevitable "but we need cars, we dont need guns" argument.....Nevermind man lived just fine before cars.

 

It's a bit understandable when you consider how the landscape of community connections have changed over the past 100 years. It was very common that people had never traveled outside their own state let alone the country. Families were bigger and neighbors were closer. One could rely on their community in hard times and looked out for one another. It was just a given. Now, we barely know our neighbors, move away from family and are mostly only connected to others through work or some sort of common social interests.

The other issue is the rising distrust and mistrust of law enforcement. Even if one is not hesitant to call the police in an emergency, it could take up to 5-10 minutes for help to arrive. That's a very, very long time when facing an immediate threat. Add in some alcohol and/or drug use (by the predator or oneself) things become dangerous even quicker and one isn't likely to take the chance on calling the cops when inebriated. That could go south very quickly.

On top of all that is simply the population. It's easier to control smaller groups of people. You can't compare our population to countries without billions of people. It's an apples and oranges thing.

Finally, the judicial and penal systems are for-profit businesses. They have to have criminals in order to prosecute and imprison them. So, really, there is no incentive for them to "fix" the social issues which leads people to a life of crime. This is why there is no fix for the drug crisis. This is why there is no fix for homelessness. This is why there has been no fix for generational poverty. All those subgroups ensures prisons stay full.

In this sense, I understand why 2As do not want to give up their weapons. They are correct there is a need to have personal protection. They are also correct that's unfair to disarm them when criminals aren't going to relinquish their weapons. There is certainly validity to why we can't all trust the police in a time of crisis. So, instead of going around this mulberry bush every time there is another shooting, maybe we should be talking about how to address the problems (ie. mental illness, chronic joblessness, homelessness, domestic violence, etc.) that are the driving forces behind the kind of behavior that leads to senseless shootings.

P.S. I'm generally a calm person and I never get road rage. I can't even wrap my head around the idea that a driver could be angry enough to shoot at another vehicle. There's a very simple fix. Signal, move to the right and let the crazy people drive on ahead. I'm not some sort of deity with superhuman strength. I simply make a choice to stay calm in a crisis. I do have PTSD so part of it is the ability to simply shut down in high tense situations. This leads me to believe there is some "pivot point" between an upsetting situation and our reaction to it. It's that point where we need to figure out how to get more people to choose Option: Don't kill anybody today.

 

A person can kill a bunch of people with a car. All they have to do is floor it into a crowd or drive drunk/high and cause a pile-up on a highway.

 

I thought California had legislated all gun crime out of existence. For one of the strictest states when it comes to guns, they certainly have a lot of gun crime.

 

Now tell us the number of road rage incidents that occur that do not involve guns.

Okay, I will, since I doubt you will.

37% of aggressive driving incidents involve a firearm, according to AutoVantage Club.

Over a seven-year time period, more than 200 murders and 12,000 injuries were attributed to road rage, according to Zebra, the auto insurance industry premier website.

Astonishingly, Zebra reports that 48.3% of all road rage incidents are triggered by someone honking the horn so, statistically, you're better off giving the one-finger salute or the German sign for ******.

50% of all aggressive driving accidents are perpetrated by Millennials, 21% by Gen X and 4.2% by Boomers.

So much for Millennials being peace-loving.

In any event, gun control will not reduce road rage incidents.

 

Muslims do it all the time.

 

the rights war on marijuana is just as bad

many things the right is anti-choice on

but saying all the left or all the right is that way is also wrong

 

Do you really want to compare the number of deaths by car ram and mass shooting in the US?

Anyway, when a Muslim drives a truck into a crowd, drastic measures are taken to prevent such a thing from happening again.

In the US, even after a killing of 60 people, nothing is done.

 

What would you suggest we do, be specific.

We already have gun laws and laws against murdering people.

 

Well speak for yourself and I have no idea why you think he had a right to use the gun as he did.