911 Motive

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  1. Edial

    Edial Active Member Past Donor

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    This thread is for folks who deny the official version of 911.

    So, what do you thing the motive might be?

    Go into the Middle East?
    We could have went there without all this. Something much smaller could have done the job.
    We did go into Iraq based on a simple lie coming from the highest level.

    WTC 7 was taken down with no casualties and very neatly.

    Why do you thing WTC 1 and 2 had to be taken down in such a hurry that so many people died?

    Thanks,
    Ed
     
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    If I don't buy the complete official version ... Am i allowed to comment? ... I would hate to say something and get "reported" ...
     
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    You can comment if you do not believe any of the theories and the reason why.

    But this thread is for the folks who do not believe the official story and discuss possibilities of alternative versions.

    This IS after all a Conspiracy forum.

    Thanks,
    Ed
     
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    Edial Active Member Past Donor

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    But do you have something that you personally believe in or lean towards?
    And if someone disagrees maybe you can show a video or plain old reasoning.
    And I might disagree and with certain elements and give you reason for it and suggest something else instead.
    Or you disagree with what I say and suggest something else instead.

    Let's make it a discussion thread where we can all build ... as long of course if you do not promote the Official Story as the Truth.
    This thread is really not for that.

    We DO need a place to discuss alternative versions in peace. :)

    Thanks,
    Ed
     
  6. Scott

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    I think this frame shows that the craft behind the box that houses that gate-lifting mechanism shows that whatever is behind it is too short to be a 757...
    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/9-11_images/penta_smoke.jpg

    ...and whatever hit the Pentagon was therefore not a 757. It's also plausible that nothing hit the Pentagon and there were pre-planted explosives there.


    A 757 would have protruded on one side of the box or the other.
    http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Pentagon-plane-the-wrong-size.jpg
     
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    Edial Active Member Past Donor

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    Oh yes, it is impossible for such a huge plane fit into such a small entry hole.
    IMPOSSIBLE.

    Explosives? Could be ... but we do see a partial image of something in that photo.

    I think something did hit it.

    I think it had to be a missile - cannot be a 757. IMPOSSIBLE.
     
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    There's a pretty comprehensive analysis of the Pentagon crash here.

    September 11 -- The New Pearl Harbor (FULL)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DOnAn_PX6M
    (1:55:25 time mark)


    I don't rule out a smaller craft or missile hitting the Pentagon. They did doctor one frame of the released footage (see the analysis at the 2:13:35 time mark) so they might have doctored more of them.
     
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    I thought this thread was about motive? ... but here we go again with "it couldn't have been a 757" ...

    nice try though Ed ...
     
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    If? You don't know?
     
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    Edial Active Member Past Donor

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    So why do you think WTC 1 and 2 were taken down in such a hurry killing so many people while WTC 7 was taken down in such a safe way?

    What if the missile or the modified plane with explosives that hit the twins had a nuclear charge in it and it needed to be taken down so not to contaminate NYC from the air?
    Or maybe we heard that the missiles had nukes in them.
    This is what I heard anyway and it somehow makes sense to me.

    I find it hard to believe we need to take building down in order to start a war.
    We started war with Iraq by just claiming they had WMDs with no proof whatsoever.

    What do you think? Possible?
    Or what makes no sense?
     
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    I think that all of this stuff about nukes and the no plane theory is disinfo thought up by some public-relations agency to make the truth movement look silly. I think real planes hit the towers although they weren't flights 11, 175, or 77 which probably landed at some military base somewhere. I think that no nukes were involved. Watch the video "September 11 -- The New Pearl Harbor (FULL)". It's got the latest analyses.
     
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    I think there were many motives, including testing new technology in action. But that was just the icing on the cake.

    The work of Eastman and Flocco showed how the date coincided with maturity dates on certain US government bonds issued back in the Cold War. Suspension of normal reporting requirements.

    Silverman made a pile of money from the insurance scam. He knew what was going to happen when he bought it.

    And of course the Predicate Act for the bureaucratic bonanza known as the Global War On Terror.

    Motives: power and money.
     
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    Any nukes that were used were strategically placed within the structure. It was extremely well planned IMO.
     
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    OK. I will watch it now. (I believe I did watch it some time ago)
    Since these weren't the real flights and some other planes or plane/missiles or whatnot ... I wonder what happened to passengers.

    About Nukes ... did you watch the Russian guy Khalezov explaining to the most minute detail about the underground nuclear demolition?
    It is 4 hours, but it explains EVERY, EVERY question I ever had.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lec9giab90I
     
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    Yes, all these are secondary things ... they figured, since this is happening we might as well do this and that.

    I think what happened was the U.S. expected an attack and had to allow it for some reason ... yet they had to do a lot of last minute cover-ups (we do see a lot of idiotic holes) in addition to some preparatory work.

    The underground demolition video I would post here answers every question I ever had.

    So it looks to me there were chargers installed on the bottom and on the impacted floors as well as the nukes that turned everything to dust ... I'll post that video in this thread.
     
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    The BEST explanation I have found so far that answers EVERY question anyone could ever ask.

    It is not nukes, it is underground nukes - big difference.
    Underground nukes turn a building into a sand castle that collapses with the top heavy part going through it at free fall speed.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lec9giab90I
     
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    The government probably disposed of them somehow; we don't know exactly what they did but they did something. Here's a possible scenario.

    Painful Deceptions 911 Documentary by Eric Hufschmid - Full Version
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hWhvRBjbko
    (43:47 time mark)


    This is pretty heavy.

    September 11 -- The New Pearl Harbor (FULL)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DOnAn_PX6M
    (1:54:00 time mark)

    If you have time, go back to the 1:38:25 time mark and watch the part about the cell phone calls.


    It seems that they had the passengers in their power and forced them to make bogus phone calls. They probably just killed them afterwards.
     
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    It's a shame that RADAR data, Air Traffic Control recordings, phone records, debris, and DNA all prove you wrong.
     
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    I KNOW that a large plane could not have hit the Pentagon.
    I remember the original entry hole BEFORE the side of the wall collapsed.

    It COULD NOT have fit.

    So this definitely begs the question ... what happened to passengers?
     
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    It most certainly did..

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    You nailed it. There is no way that a 757 flew into that building. And the analysis of the FDR by Dennis Cimino supports that fact.

    For me, the largest mystery remaining is what DID happen to the passengers? Though in novel form, Rebekah Roth deals with that a bit in her book 'Methodical Deception'.

    A better title might be Magnificent Deception, for a deception it was.
     
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    One thing against Rebekah Roth ... she is really selling her book.
    I am trying to hear in her youtube interviews what she says that happened with passengers - but she is selling her book instead.

    So the whole thing is a very complicated setup ... yet at the same time it seems that many things were done "at the last minute" and there were a number of unbelievable things happening, like finding the passports of the hijackers of the planes that supposedly completely disintegrated into the Twins.

    It was almost as if the WANTED people to see it was not how they said it was.
     
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    Impossible, unless you believe the wings have "folded" ... but this thread is about a possible motive, not whether of not this happened.
     
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    can you explain away all the witnesses? ...
     

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