A 25-year-old black man was shot dead in Georgia while jogging, prompting online protests labeling t

The citizens arrest is the only justification for their actions and the shooter has said it was a citizens arrest (will try to find the link on that shortly).

Obviously the citizens arrest has its limits and the justification for one seems to have not been met at all.

Regardless, simply pointing a gun at someone is unlawful and they appear to be doing so in the video before any altercation. And this was admittedly after they used two cars to box him in twice and the victim merely tried to evade them (again according to the shooter) both times. The third time he was shot after trying to avoid them and apparently Travis followed him to the front of the truck where the altercation took place.

Thankfully this is going to a Grand Jury and hopefully justice will be served.

 

Basically, yeah. The video is available online.

 

If someone jumps out of a truck with a gun pointed at me when I've done nothing wrong, I'd be well within my rights to defend myself. Dude in the truck was firing too, so this wasn't just an accidental discharge. There is no excusing this.

 

I'd be interested in seeing this link if you can find it.

 

Thank you. Sounds like murder to me too.

 

If he hadn't committed any crime, they had no right to detain him. I hope Travis McMicheal is tried for the murder of Ahmaud Abery. Gregory McMicheal and Bryant Williams should face charges too for threatening Ahmaud Abery with guns.

 

If the two McMicheals and Bryant Williams are not punished for this, it will send a clear signal that it's OK to kill African-Americans. All the killer would need to do is make up a story about thinking the African-American had broke the law and they were trying to make a citizen's arrest.
I hear Abery's family is being represented by Lee Merrit. He has worked on other high profile cases involving wrongful death.

 

Ahmaud Abery was lynched in broad daylight. I hope he receives justice.

 

Are you forgetting they were in Georgia? Do you really think it would have happened that way?

 

There is a website set up for Ahmaud Abery.
www.runwithmaud.com
There is a petition you can sign. And phone numbers of people who will be involved in this case If you wish to call them.

 

Yeah, I really enjoy making fun of the self-destructive nature of black America. It's low hanging fruit to be used when arguing with silly liberals about the plight of African Americans. I can't anymore regarding this after seeing the video. These guys initiated an altercation with Ahmaud Arbery with guns. I guess they didn't expect "the ****** to get all uppity" and decide against accepting their aggression as would have been his only option 20 years ago. It's easy to say he should have just talked to them, but he wasn't obligated to do so, and he never should have been expected to. So he was executed because he didn't accept the random white dude's authority. Great. There's no way these two aren't indicted and convicted. That self destructive nature I spoke about is why the majority of prisoners in George are black, and I hope these two jackasses are stuck general population with those black prisoners and the entire prison is made aware of what they did.

It'll be a few miserable months before these two rednecks check into protective custody. The majority of Georgia prisons are not air conditioned, so they'll spend the remainder of their lives locked in a hot, little cell.

 

Maybe in the projects where you live...

I'm around guns all the time. I see people carrying all the time.

You should move out of the city. Its safer.

 

Kidnapping is specifically unlawful confinement. And as far as I saw, there was no "arrest" made, as they claimed. And you can not claim self defense when you're ordering somebody to stop while waving your guns around. You can clearly see the jogger running down the path, and the guy with the gun deliberately standing in his way stopping him. Hence the kidnappers started the fight. They should not have been confining him. Their citizens arrest as they claimed they were doing, doesn't fly because they know very well they did not see him do anything wrong, hence they can't arrest him for anything.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1201
Whoever unlawfully seizes, confines, inveigles, decoys, kidnaps, abducts, or carries away and holds for ransom or reward or otherwise any person

The victim did nothing wrong, other than being black. That set off these red necks. They saw a black guy jogging, and that's like... it's a slave on the run or something. We must catch that runaway property. And it is like that BECAUSE they did not come up with a statement that they SAW him DO something illegal.


And why is it with you guys, that you can not accept that you're not allowed to just make black people stop at gun point for no good reason at all? If some big black dude with a gun would be stopping this nice little Jewish girl who jogged, and she pulls a gun out and blasts the guys head off, than people like you would be like... well statistically black people commit a lot of violent crime so that little girl was just acting out of self defense. What did she had to do? Wait till she got raped?

 

I wish I could laugh at this but there's only a like button...

 

I also engage everyone who stands in my path...

HR at work gets upset over it, but I just claim they started the fight.

That isn't really your thought process, right? Like, they didn't "start" a fight by stopping someone? Or is that how you start fights?

 

Sure. When you deliberately stand in the way, demanding other people must stop, while holding on to a shotgun, at work.... than of course you're not the one who started anything. Happened to me yesterday, come to think of it. /sarcasm.

 

Really, I can't believe you even said that (put whatever word you like) ish. If I confront you with a gun in my hand, you would feel threatened, it's a big difference being around someone with a gun and someone confronting you with one.

 

I’m pretty sure the video shows two men struggling when the gun went off, I could be wrong. If the black guy committed a crime, they should have called the cops, and let them handle it.

 

Amaud Arbery isn't the one who killed anybody. Why are you bringing up his past?

 

There was no confinement there was no seizure he was not even detained, they wanted to talk to him. Yes the hoped they could get him to stay there and talk until the police arrived but there is no evidence a gun was pointed at him or they said stop or we'll shoot. If you have evidence of such I'd love to see it.

The guy was NOT standing in his way Arbery had to cut left in front of the truck to attack him and that is where the fight ensue in which during the struggle which Arbery started the gun was discharged.

You have a right , I have a right, my neighbor has a right to confront someone I think is up to no good in my neighborhood. From the video and the evidence AT HAND Arbery did wrong when he sudden turned and attacked Travis. And no Travis did not pull the shotgun aim it at Arbery and pull the trigger so stop with the false analogies with your heart string "little Jewish girl" and deal with THIS case the evidence we have.

The grand jury will probably bring an indictment in what is now such a politically and racially charged case and the jury will see and weigh ALL the evidence and hopefully do so with an open mind unlike many here who immediately upon hearing it's a black shot by a white guy so the white guy must be guilty. Of course some of that is caused by a media that is not present ALL the facts when they post such things as he was just jogging along minding his own business when in fact he had just been caught trespassing on a private property and had the police call by another neighbor. Or that Travis claims to have seen him a few nights earlier in the neighborhood and Arbery made the reach his hands in his waist band as if he were armed.

Again to my fellow posters better to wait until we see all the evidence presented before you declare this was a murder and someone should go to jail. There is not a beyond reasonable doubt here for that.

 

Yes, do blacks in your state have a right to assault people simply wanting to talk to them or something?

 

Prove Travis pointed the shotgun at him. I've read nothing about the pistol being fired, cite it. There were three shots from the shot gun AFTER Arbery attacked Travis, all during the scuffle.

 

Arbery "attacked" Travis after he was out jogging and two guys in a truck, one in the back already armed with a revolver, cut him off and tried to stop him, and then one exited the vehicle with a shotgun to try to stop him again.

There is no world in which it is sane to claim that these 2 men had reasonable cause for a citizens arrest against a jogger, but that the jogger had no reasonable fear for his safety. None. Nor is it reasonable to believe that all 3 shots were accidental.

 

At this point none of this is proven to have happened. The media has lied many times so unless there is an official report from the police with proof to back it up then it is a fairy tale.

 

I'm not relying on the media. I watched the video. Everything I said is in the video.