A 3,000% Jump in Jobless Claims Has Devastated the US Job Market.

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  1. Andrew Jackson

    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

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    OK, Mr. P.P., Let us assume that we address these 2 situations (2009 vs 2020):

    IF, what went on in 2009 was so bad, and some people (mistakenly) feel it was "comparable":

    I DON'T Remember a Nationwide Lockdown and a Crashed Economy.

    So?

    How can anybody feel that there is any equivalency?
     
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    Well said and Exactly, C.A.

    That is why I (continually) find myself stunned that people are even attempting to equate 2009 to 2020.

    This COVID-19 Situation is Exponentially WORSE.

    ^And, Everybody KNOWS it.
     
  3. JakeStarkey

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    Anyone who is saying there is a major equivalency between Covid19 and H1N1 is blowing smoke, can be patted on the head, and ignored.

    We will reach the death total of the previous affliction in about 1/12th time of Covid19 and it may reach ten to twenty times the total in the same time as that of H1N1.

    The populist misperception of this emergency needs to be corrected firmly and to the point. The individual is not more important that the group in times of trial.
     
  4. ronv

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    The problem is his lack of decisive action.
    Had he shut it down quickly and across the country we would be out of the woods by now.
    Instead he has managed to extend it by months by dragging his feet.
    But having said that; with the screwed up testing it still might not have worked. Of course decisive action there to open it to the private sector would have solved that one too.
     
  5. ronv

    ronv Well-Known Member

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    Welll,

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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Complete and indisputable reversal of attitude.Obama waiting 6 months
    until taking desperate needed action.Again ... a nutter classic example of
    sheer hypocrisy on display.Kind of like the way Al Gore eventually was exposed
    as snake oil salesman with his ludicrous Global Warming predictions.
    This is what real humans are up against.A Power grab by Authoritarians.
    We are seeing it firsthand and Live in states run by Leftist Governors and
    Mayors.Not Liberal Governors.We have graduated past that point.
    Thomas Jefferson was a Liberal.There may come a point when President
    Trump is left no other choice but to arrest and incarcerate those who persist
    in their ways.That being to Push this Demostrable Unamerican attempt to
    put the Country in some kind of deepfreeze.Trump needs to arrest those
    who make the calls for this Deepfreeze.The Governors,The Mayors,
    The Attorney Generals,their Lawyers,members running the Mainstream
    media.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you totally unaware of what Trumps rivals said when he did
    Ban Travel { all Travel from China }.The first time our Nation ever
    made that call.Or how in Late January Dr.Fauci had this to say about
    that Virus :
    " This is not a major threat to the people of the United
    States and this is not something that the citizens of the
    United States should be worried about right now. " 1/21/2020
     
  8. ronv

    ronv Well-Known Member

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    The minute the first unknown case was in the country all we could buy was time.
    Had the testing worked we might have been able to stop it like Korea.
    Fauci thought we could contain it, but without tracking that was not possible.
    Even then, for some reason, no one ask the question; how many can we test with this method?
    Oh. Almost forgot. Was it only Chinese that could bring the virus here? How about all those Americans still going back and forth to China?
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Coulda,woulda,shoulda.It that all ya got bub.?
    Trump took decisive action that spared a much more grave
    outcome.This Little Fauci expert was out Pooh-Poohing while
    Trump took drastic action that was in the final analysis... crucial.
     
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  10. ronv

    ronv Well-Known Member

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    Pitiful...

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    Makes you want to cry when you know our curve could have looked like this:
     
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    China is to blame.And also this vaunted CDC.They knew about a
    bad virus in China as early as Late October.What took them { CDC}
    so doggone lone to act.
    Dennis Prager { Not known to Lie } is very troubled by this Hack { Dr.Fauci }
    Calling what he said one day - " He's Lying.Or he's Stupid.There is no
    third explanation." Then Prager railing about the use of the word " Expert ".
    Which if anyone who cares about truth,should realize.Why is it that
    Government Bureaucrats or the " Experts " continually use that
    excuse.Because The " Experts " said so.It's a proveable crock.
    The same dagburn excuse used about Comey at the F.B.I. and
    Brennan & Clapper and their Intelligence " experts ".
    It's a Grand Mal excuse.Like the Way Hillary used the word
    " Smart " all throughout her Senate Term.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We are finding out little by little that the estimates for beds needed
    is WAY Overblown.Same with Ventilators.It's a Master plan to
    hoodwink the populace and spread fear & panic.While destroying our
    Economy.Why On God's Green Earth would Little Hack { Dr.Fauci }
    make the asinine comment that until there are No Deaths and no
    new Cases ... the Shelter-in-place order should remain.
     
  13. ronv

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    Yeah, I don't get it. In 2009 we had a PCR (quick test) in less than 2 weeks.
     
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    Hang on to your socks. You ain't seen nothing yet.
     
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    Then why did Obama ... the Annointed one Not get it.
    he waited 6 months before declaring an Emergency concerning
    the 2009 H1N1 Virus { Swine Flu }. Which struck the U.S. in
    Mid April and wasn't until Mid-October and 1,ooo DEATHS before
    " The Annointed One " Held a Presser explaining the need to get
    the publics attention.Tell us ... who was acting " Stupidly " then.
    Just like Obama was NEVER held to account for Giving *Ransom to
    Iran { Terrorist regime } in exchange for American held prisoners.
    Our Country had a firm policy Against giving Ransom to Terrorist
    or Terrorist Regimes.

    * In January of 2016 The Obama Adm. Secretly airlifted { in the dead of
    night } $ 400 Million to Iran for the release of 4 jailed americans.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is how Authoritarians like Fauci & Co. talk.
    These predict based on ...

    Hunches
     
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    In so many ways, Ron, you are surely correct (and I say that knowing that we have disagreed on many issues over the years).

    Our known cases continue to go up constantly, including the resultant death-count. And we're just getting started!

    The only hope we have of being able to stop this virus as quickly as possible would involve a mandatory, no-bullshit, DO-NOT-MOVE quarantine for everyone in the United States, except for police and fire departments. Everybody just stays at home and does not go anywhere unless it is a life-and-death emergency! But, it won't happen....

    So, the best-informed projections I've seen are those that say, IF WE'RE LUCKY, we'll see the infections being to flatten-out by the first of May, with a subsequent drop in deaths by about Memorial Day. But, if we're not lucky...? Maybe by Labor Day...?

    Big difference between China and the United States: In China, they can FORCE the population to go into isolation. Over here, the commanding influence has been, and will remain, "What does this do to commerce, business, and the stock market?"

    To that I would say that until we have a consistent, significant, declining number of COVID-19 cases in the United States, the fugging stock market DOESN'T MATTER! For over ten years the almighty-god stock market had become an overvalued creation of the Federal Reserve's manipulation of what used to be a 'free market economy', complete with 'rescues', 'bail-outs', 'free loans', and endless quantities of imaginary 'money'. To hell with all of that until we get rid of the VIRUS!
     
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    Ben Shapiro layed the entire timeline out on Thursday’s Show. Any Leftist here who claims Trump didn’t do enough is a TDS hypocrite liar. Don’t try to rewrite history. Don’t try to go back in time and claim we shoulda coulda when the info was sketchy at best. We could’ve prevented 9/11 by that logic, if Clinton did his job when he had the opportunity to kill OBL multiple times but sat back and took it up the ass when he attacked us multiple times to test our responses.

    You can ONLY criticize Trump unless you
    criticize every Democrat. You can count on 1 hand the number of politicians and even doctors who suggested to lock us all down,
    back in January.

    This is squarely on China and the WHO who are officially in the pocket of China and should be disbanded and defunded for being enemies of the world. China needs to be held accountable for this cluster and every nation needs to ban together and start treating them as the danger they are.
     
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    We are learning quite fast as to how a Virus operates.
    They rely on getting into ones cells.Breaking whatever
    barrier encomposes a cell.The degree of how weak
    one's immune system is will determine how fast and
    deadly a virus like this Coronavirus can do it's thing.
    That is why Zinc is needed to combat this Corn Virus.
    But not OTC Zinc but Zinc that gets injected into the cell
    to help weaken the potentiality of a virus.
    Cell Phone Radiation is also a factor.Due to extreme amount
    of Satellites now in our atmosphere.
     
  20. ronv

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    That's where you would be
    Wrong.
     
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    ronv Well-Known Member

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    Oh $hit.

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    You might be able to make that argument if it weren't for countries like Korea that squashed it like a bug.
     
  23. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But Keep in Mind that Little Dr.Fauci was a big Supporter of Hillary Clinton.
    Also the WHO { World health Organization } who we just learned c/o
    Tucker Carlson the other day is actively taking Up for China.
    The Director-General of the WHO { Tedros Ghebreyesus } was shown
    explaining to a group how China is doing a good job and has done
    a good job in addressing this Coronavirus.A Bald-faced Lie.
    Our MSM is likewise using that Defense of China.The new
    tactic by the Shills at MSNBC is to spread a panic that certain groups
    { Right-wing } have been leveling serious Threats towards Dr.Fauci.
    Of course without as much as ONE Frickin' Example.
     
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    He has a point. We were caught completely flat-footed by this. Not Trump's fault, it's just how people are. Capitalism prioritizes profits, so why bother preparing for something as remote as a deadly pandemic? And so nobody really prepared, and here we are.

    To handle existential threats like pandemics, wars, asteroid strikes, earthquakes, etc. you need something besides capitalism. You need socialism.
     
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    We are also learning as to a possible motive for little
    Dr.Fauci to base his opinions on " hunches ". Because the raw
    data does not line up with real reported and confirmed data.
    Is Fauci a big proponent of the WHO. ?
    That may be key.Or learning how the numbers and Data are being
    fudged to make for a desired heightened panic.
    Because that seems to be the goal.To destroy any Confidence
    Americans have in this Country's ability to lead.
     

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