A Question For Trump Supporters

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  1. MAGA

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    You are right about the RINOs spending like drunken Democrats.

    SS, Medicare and Welfare will bankrupt this country without reform. Every honest adult must admit that.
     
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    I sell to manufacturing and my sales are great and I see LOTS of growth in the future. I am paying less in taxes as far as rate, more because my income is rising. My retirement investments are doing quite well.

    What has changed in yours to make it worse?
     
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    The Republicans have not controlled Congress since 2010.
     
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    I think Regular Americans were doin a hell of a lot better when he left office than when he took office...

    As far as Wall Street Tycoons and "Corporation execs"...how they doing now after two years of Trump?

    They got their tax cuts...that's for sure
     
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    I buy from manufacturing...and I'm getting hit with tariff surcharges
     
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    No it won't. It would be very simple to adequately fund both but it would require either more taxes or cutting America's outrageous military spending. And by the way America is already broke or haven't you seen the national debt.
     
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    What are you buying from domestic manufacturing that has a tariff surcharge? BTW I just quoted an item to a HUGE plant that we had to add an anticipated 25% surcharge because the item will not land here until after January 1 when the tariff goes into effect.
    FYI I do not support tariffs as a general rule.
     
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    Sorry but income inequality is a reality and is increasing. Pretending it is not a problem is just sticking your head in the sand. I think the last numbers I saw was that the top 0.1% has as much wealth as the bottom 90%.

    If you really don't think that having a tiny number of people control America is a problem than that is just plain willful ignorance.
     
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    Yeah.... Tax payers got the tax cuts, Einstein.
     
  10. MAGA

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    You mean the debt Obama doubled?

    Glad you noticed
     
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    Yeah to save America from the Bush disaster as you should well know.
     
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    Nothing, nor did I say Trump has made my situation worse. But thanks for trying.
     
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    Really. When do you think they took over both houses and blocked everything Obama tried to do.
     
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    Yeah...

    Those $100Billions wasted in failed programs that made Democrat campaign donors richer saved America.

    That's it.
     
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    If I go to a Trump rally, it's not to commit violence.

    If people who go to a Trump rally with the explicit purpose of violent behavior, then.... they are going to be met with violence - and in 2019,l I predict lots of it.

    Best stay at home if you want to lead a life of non-violence.
     
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    Not familiar with that story, was it something similar to Obama saying "when they bring a knife, we bring a gun"?
    Political violence, in my view, is usually the result of the extremists who lean Left or Right. That said, most of those who lean Right are usually middle class, employed, property owners, and have debts to be repaid, and are less likely to be incited to violence as they have something to lose. Those who lean Left, on the other hand, tend to be the wealthy and the poorest, both of whom benefit as a result of more government spending, and either have nothing to lose or much to gain from the aftermath of destructive activities.
    Trumps slogan "Make America Great Again" is more a call to all citizens like the words spoke by JFK "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." Trump cannot do much of anything by himself, and we're now waiting to see if the voters will do their part and provide him with more supportive members in Congress to get us on the path to becoming Greater again.
     
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    The logic is:
    Trump supporters go to a Trump rally NOT to commit violence but to listen and show their support or lack of in response to what is heard.
    Those who are anti-Trump go to a Trump rally for no reason but to be disruptive and if possible incite reaction to the point of violence.
    As a result Trump supporters are put in a position of defending their person and/or property. I'm unaware of anyone like Soros who funds extremists on the Right to disrupt and/or commit violent acts. And while I don't support Right wing extremists at all, I respect their 'right' to rally and make fools of themselves, and if we began to ignore them they would likely find their numbers dwindling more rapidly. And the same should apply to Left wing extremists.
     
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    Except he voted for Clinton.
    Nice try though.
     
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    I don"t recall them successfully blocking so called Obamacare.However I remember that Obama was the president who signed the highest number of unconstitutional executive orders.You can keep your insurance.Right!
     
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    I've been earning more than 10% annually on my investments before, during and since the recession. When government acts, I simply react in my own best interest. Something I learned from the Carter presidency, don't count on government to act in your best interests.
     
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    Probably depends on how much Soros is willing to pay.
     
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    Well I am sure you can post evidence that Obama signed the highest number of unconstitutional execurtive orders.

    And yes Obamacare was passed in Obama's first two years.
     
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    So the electricsl shock brought him back to the real world. Sweet.
     
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    We have Trump's own words advocating violence! And his worshippers followed. Here is a link:

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/donald-trump-incitement-violence/
     
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    Go look it up it certainly wasn't 2010.
     
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