A thread to discuss HOW AMERICA WON THE WAR.

What's the point of this?

The Japanese Aircraft design especially the ZERO had many lethal flaws.

The biggest flaw was the ZERO did not have a BLADDER inside it's Fuel Tanks like American Fighters did.

When a U.S. Aircraft was shot and had rounds penetrate it's fuel tanks in the wings primarily the Japanese rounds would penetrate the tanks but inside the American Fuel Tanks were a expansive Fuel Bladder that expained when filled and constricted when drained and because of this bladder when the American aircraft experienced being shot in the wings where the fuel tanks were the bladder prevented fires and constricted to stop large amounts of fuel loss.

By comparison U.S. Fighter Aircraft just needed to get a single round into a Zero's Fuel Tanks to have them burst into flame.

The development and deployment of the U.S. Army Air Corps.P-51 Mustang with it's supercharged engine was responsible for giving the United States the ability to provide Fighter Escorts to B-17's and B29's deep into German and Japanese Territory as no other Japanese or German plane had such range or could compete with a P-51.

P-51 Mustangs even shot down many German Messerschmitt Me 262 Schwalbe the worlds first Jet Fighter.

AboveAlpha

 

Yes. The Japanese had a great sense of humour.

 

Yeah, it's the one of aspect. It isn't demanded nor it's not available to show every aspects.

 

The Japanese lost the war the moment they started it.

The Japanese Admiral who planned Pearl Harbor desperately tried to convince the Japanese Army Leadership NOT to attack the U.S. but since the Japanese Army Leadership were all under the Divine Wind Mythology they believed they could not lose.

But there was no possible way Japan could have won the war against the United States as the U.S. Manufacturing Capability and Resources could far out match anything Japan could do.

AboveAlpha

 

Okay. I detect unlikely reticence. Perhaps we should discuss how America has won its more recent wars?

Satirically, of course.

 

The proper history of the war we won is buried underneath a root cellar underneath a barn in Kirchenrohrbach.

 

How deep? And that's no way to spell Washington DC.

Forgot to ask. Which war?

 

Shouldn't take a rodent long to dig. Geography no longer being taught in Germany? Your next invasion will undoubtedly be short lived. Gruss Gott.

 

The USA didn't "win" WWII. The USA intentionally avoided involvement in the war. In fact, there was a successful anti-war campaign called America First. As for the war in Europe, the USA was drawn into the war due to the Pearl harbor attack. It didn't matter: Germany could never have taken Russia while holding the western front.

 

It's perfectly easy to gather the evidence on this question. Just search the vast number of John Wayne movies made about the topic.

 

Probably the same outcome, it would have taken longer.
The main battles were in Russia, and the US aid helped, but the Soviets were producing a lot of their own weapons, and there was a lot of the Soviet Union left, the Germans were never "close to winning" in Russia.

 

I thought you were referring to the Pentagon Papers, which were updug some time ago.

 

I see no humor in that. Off topic on your own thread? Shame.

 

Of course you don't. But since I designed the thread in such a way as to allow for discussion of any WAR AMERICA MAY HAVE WON, I think you will find I have adhered strictly to the parameters of the OP.

You may also have noticed I allow for the high probability that most Americans on this forum are of the opinion that AMERICA WON ALL ITS WARS.

I think I have catered sensitively for such romantic thoughts.

 

sah auf den richtigen Weg, alle Kriege lustig. Viele sterben aber nur einmal.

 

This is pretty much the answer. The US material aid helped the Soviets maintain a higher level of momentum once the war started to turn. But ultimately the Soviets on their own blunt the original onslaught by the Germans

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But no matter the society there is going to many areas where there is a disconnect between history and perceptions of history

 

That reminds of the old joke.

On he campaign trail Reagan promises if elected he'll end the Vietnam war.
Someone says "that ended a couple of years ago"
Reagan says "No war is over until America Wins!"

 

Alas. Not only blunted it it but turned it in a (rather well-organised) rout. That ended up in Berlin.

The main reason the Americans wanted a landing in Normandy was to stop the Russians from taking Paris and Brussels.

 

Reagan could sell anything. Even an outright lie.

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A true Hollywood B-side legend.

 

In the USSR and in the Russia all peoples know and remember the date on 1941,June 22 , 4 o'clock in the morning when fascist Germany attacked the USSR.
From the beginning and in the first days, soviet people to call war - The Great Patriotic War of the Soviet People .
Moscow was the Homeland - a symbol of friendship of all Soviet people since the beginning of war and to its latest end.
The Soviet people protected the Homeland with words - for the Homeland for Stalin... After war majority of books, magazines, movies...
showed this war in which the Soviet people as the truth. Just mostly russian side of the war (same in america, most of books , films show american side of war)
but movies about the help and joint military operations of the Soviet Union and America were shown to... I don't know on what basis the author says,
what history books aren't right?
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World War Two: How the Allies Won
By Professor Richard Overy

In his prison cell at Nuremberg, Hitler's foreign minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop, wrote a brief memoir in the course of which he explored the reasons for Germany's defeat. He picked out three factors that he thought were critical: the unexpected 'power of resistance' of the Red Army; the vast supply of American armaments; and the success of Allied air power.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/wwtwo/how_the_allies_won_01.shtml

 

Excellent stuff but not terribly funny.

Kia ora.and hallo mein Führer

 

I dont think I can agree with that. Planning for Overlord had begun before the Soviets had made any real gains. At the Tehran conference, the Soviets made it pretty clear what lands they wanted and the other allies committed to an invasion in France in May or June of 44. If Stalin really was thinking in terms of dominating Western Europe I think he would have voted down FDR and sided with Churchill for an second Italian invasion

 

'Allo 'allo? Why do you think the Russians are so good at chess?

 

I detect a distinct lack of humour and satire on a thread devoted to humour and satire..

Ve vill haf to take action against future transgressors. Please bring your own bulls-eyes. Bandaids optional.

 

ecellent. Auftrag hat benn restauriert

Now let that be a lesson to you. Try not to re-offend.

Heil!