A 'turning point' on UFOs: Physicist Michio Kaku tells ufology conference the truth is out there

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  1. Gelecski7238

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    UFOs making right-angle turns at 10,000 MPH is also a kind of physics gone off the rails. Your badmouthing of him does seem to carry a lot of weight.

    I suppose you think McKenna and his discovery of a defense computer file containing Pay Records of Military Officers on Non-Terrestrial Duty is also bunk.
     
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    So you think the guy who was hired to reverse engineer alien spaceships was paid 500 bucks to do it?
     
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    I don' t know the details of the pay rate for the pay period involved for services rendered at the skill level involved.

    The internet seems to be overloaded with information debunking Lazaar, to the point where the effort seems lopsided. It would be more convincing if Lazzaar was a lone beacon on the matter, but he's not. Here's a counterpart to that lopsidedness.
    https://www.ufologyonline.com/george-knapp-the-legendary-ufo-journalist/
     
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    They have toilets. And why would Naval Intelligence be involved in Area 51. I think it was just a government pay stub.

    I KNOW he is full of sht just listening to his crackpot physics.
     
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    Lazar is a crackpot and anyone who listens to him is just living in a fantasy world. He is high profile and therefore so is his debunking.

    What I posted was from Stanton Friedman, who actually went to Cal Tech to check on Lazar's claimed history. Nothing. And even the government couldn't go back and change all of the year books.

    But he did find his record of attending a Jr College for a time.
     
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    He can't even get 1st year physics right. He doesn't need to talk about UFOs.

    I am going by the pay stub Lazar produced. Show me the evidence. Oh wait, let me guess, you don't have any. Where did you hear this, from Lazar?

    If you mean do I believe it generally? I don't know. I haven't seen the evidence or heard corroborating testimony from retired officers.

    It would be easy to get caught hacking and then fabricate a wild story to make money. In fact we see story drift with actual events, such as the encounter at Rendlesham Forest, Over the years their stories have grown more dramatic. Then, out of the blue, many years later, Penniston produced notes of "binary code" he allegedly received telepathically. Funny he would sit on that information for 20 years and then suddenly produce them for The History Channel.
     
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    Here is another example of story drift:

    This is the UFO first reported by Kenneth Arnold.

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    Here is what he publicized later

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    You can do a search on "Gary McKinnon hacker" and see all the evidence yourself. The various narratives seem to be consistent.
     
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    https://www.ufologyonline.com/george-knapp-the-legendary-ufo-journalist/

    College records are one thing; year books are something else. They are not eqivalent.This is the first I've heard about the year books. Such status may be difficult to confirm. If Lazaar is truly absent from the year books, then we might conclude that he has been an agent of disinformation or an exploratory test case to see how the public reacts.
     
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    Or he's just a crackpot.

    Why do people want to glorify this guy? He is just a con artist, What does he have to offer besides a wild story?

    And I know all about Knapp. It doesn't matter what he says. Lazar screws up elementary physics. He is no physicist.
     
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    So he told a story. That isn't evidence.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_McKinnon

    There is no evidence.
     
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    Concerning the link you provided: How biased and crude of you to paint a false picture like it's only a matter of his telling a story. As if NASA, the involvement of many other military offices, the arrest, the British House of Lords, the extradition efforts, and so on are just "his story." Your credibility just went down the drain.
     
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    Stanton didn't believe him based upon school records or their absence.

    Yet his arguments against lazar was never a question of lazar's knowledge of physics. Indeed the only person who ever said lazar didnt know physics was our member, here we go again.

    Lazar worked for an atomic lab prior to area 51 and Knapp found that lab's telephone directory with lazar's name and number and was listed as a physicist in it. This was after this lab said he never worked there. Later on lazar got entry to this lab and got to take knapp on a tour of it and knapp said lazar knew his way around the lab.

    I am not claiming he is not lying but just correcting false info listed here in the attacks.

    If you are gonna attack the guy, please dont ignore what has been proven by real journalists.

    The problem with his schooling is the only proven lie .

    No one ever questioned his physics until someone did here. Given his recorded talks our resident physicist should show us the talk that proves the guy knows nothing about physics. For that has never been used against him not even by stanton.
     
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    An indelible part of our fascinating (UFO) culture.
     

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