Abortion is a homicide, deal with it

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  1. Josephwalker

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    Her question was about the word "surgical". She said that word was never said. It clearly was.
     
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    The woman in your link did NOT have an abortion of any kind at 6 months.....and I think you started to realize your error and are back pedaling/obsfucating/wriggling fast.


    The story was ONLY about her regretting her decision....and has NO point.


    :) BTW, you may ignore my posts (because they prove you so wrong) but my posts are there for everyone else to see:)
     
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    Why does someone think they should have control of the fetus in my wife's body?

    Disclaimer...my wife and I would never have an abortion....but we support other people to have the CHOICE.
     
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    After three months it's my opinion you have waited too long but that's just my opinion. After the fetus is viable outside the womb it's murder pure and simple. No opinion just fact.
     
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    No offense but that doesn't answer the question I asked. Why is it you think you should have control of the fetus in another persons body?
     
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    Because at some point the fetus has to be recognized as an entity to and of itself and not an organ or appendage of the mother.
     
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    You still have zero control over a fetus in another persons body. Amazing you think you should.
     
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    So is the fetus just a blob of nothing to kill right up until the time of delivery or do you have a point in the pregnancy where you would consider it a human life?
     
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    A three month fetus weight less than1/2 of an ounce
    Women don’t have abortions with a viable fetus. If they do it is for the health of themselves or they have a fetus that cannot survive. What you do is you take some rare exception and you make up the rules so you can justify denying women reproductive freedom.
     
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    That’s a delivery! They don’t kill it
     
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    Doesn’t matter when I consider a fetus a human life. The issue is that you do not have any control over another persons fetus. End of story.
     
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    I have no idea why you think I'm full on anti abortion. I'm fine with it up to three months and then I start getting a bit uneasy. The later the abortion the more uneasy I get.
     
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    Late term abortion is not delivery
     
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    Well I guess you answered my question. To you a fetus is just a blob of **** to be killed without thought right up to the moment it's born. There is no point until then you consider it a human being with individual right to life. Funny how people now are being charged with double murder when they kill a pregnant women though isn't it.

    "The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-212) is a United States law which recognizes an embryo or fetus in utero as a legal victim, if they are injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines "child in utero" as "a member of the species Homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb".[1]
     
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    I did? Can you show me where I said I think a fetus is just a blob? I'll be waiting....
    By the way...you seem to have forgotten that I already stated I, nor my wife would ever have an abortion. Just sayin...
     
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    If you think abortion is fine at any point up to birth you obviously don't consider the fetus s human until it's born so yeah you must consider it nothing more than a blob of ****.
     
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    ECA said:
    You still have zero control over a fetus in another persons body. Amazing you think you should.





    That is not what he posted at all......why do you need to twist and totally "misrepresent" what he posted?

    Is it because you have no facts?




    Too bad your "unease" doesn't change a thing, doesn't change law, doesn't change rtights...nothing..
     
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    A VICTIM , NOT a legal person.


    OF COURSE you left off the clause that says it has no bearing on abortion or abortion laws....was that too INCONVENIENT ?????

    The law was set up to protect women from those who would take her CHOICE away from her...murderers and such
     
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    Twisting words again....he never said a fetus isn't human....he NEVER said that.

    And a lack of knowledge about the human life cycle is no excuse not to know we were ALL nothing more than blobs of cells.


    See, the fetus doesn't really look like the Gerber baby the second it's conceived....( Shocking to have to explain that to an adult)
     
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    Where did I say abortion was fine at any point up to birth?
    Keep in mind you think abortion is fine at some point, right?
     
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    You've said you have no right to say anything about a woman aborting at anytime. I personally draw the line at three months but you seem to have no point at which you think it's wrong or at least you won't say what that point is.
     
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    Nope. NEVER said "you have no right to say anything about a woman aborting at anytime". Please stop making things up.
    I have only said..."you do not have any control over another persons fetus". You can SAY all you want. But you have NO control.
    How many late term abortions of perfectly health babies from perfectly healthy mothers do you think are occurring?
     
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    You are playing word games and it's impossible to have a real conversation with someone who does that but I'll try once more. When would you SAY it's wrong to have an abortion. At what point in the pregnancy would you SAY that? I'll be interested to see how you wiggle out of giving an honest answer to this.
     
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    No...actually it is YOU who is playing word games by trying to put words in my mouth that I've never said. I don't tolerate that. It's weak and lazy.
    Aborting a fetus after 3 months that is totally healthy from a mother that is totally healthy would be wrong. But I, nor you or anyone else have no right to think they should have control over the fetus of another person.
     
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    NO, he isn't playing word games, YOU are twisting his words to say what YOU want them to say....a sick game....
     

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