Abortion is a homicide, deal with it

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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    I read your post. It is why what you post is dismissed.
    Maybe you should read a dictionary.
    You are unaware of what a person is defined as.
     
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    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    OK, if a fetus can be called a "child" (TWO DIFFERENT stages in human development) then can you call a teenager a fetus and a fetus an adult...YOU can but no one else does because it's erroneous.

    See, language was created to communicate and if people use the wrong words for things they not only look stupid but they can't communicate very well.


    If the wrong words are used for things laws can't be written..."all giraffes must be leashed" would be confusing in a dog park but this is exactly what you propose.



    Buy rant on, you won't change a thing
     
  3. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    You clearly haven’t read the Unbirn Victims of Violence Act, a federal law that recognizes children in utero at any stage of development as human beings. Thus also recognizing them as persons.
    So..... where does biology define a child? You failed to answer the basic question.
     
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    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    Pathetic spin tactic. Abortion is a homicide. It is an important first admission for the pro abortion delusional crowd.
     
  5. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    [/QUOTE]
    Yes, it did. Read the act for cryin out loud. The language “child in utero at any stage of development “ comes straight from the law itself. Can’t weasel out of this one. the exception for abortion just bolsters my point. There would be no need for the exception if it isn’t a homicide.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    NO, they did NOT....and you cannot show where in that act they did. However they DO have a clause especially saying that the UVVA has no connection or ruling over abortion laws.





    Yes, it did. Read the act for cryin out loud. The language “child in utero at any stage of development “ comes straight from the law itself. Can’t weasel out of this one. the exception for abortion just bolsters my point. There would be no need for the exception if it isn’t a homicide.[/QUOTE]


    The act referred to a "child in utero " , it did not, and cannot make a fetus into a legal person.

    You mistake the need for the clause. It wasn't needed in reference to whether it was homicide or not....it was meant to show that it had no standing on abortion laws..


    BTW, how many women who had abortions have been prosecuted under the UVVA ???

    :nana:
     
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    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    So can you....right to Iraq...or Iran...
     
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    Yup, when it's "in utero"....and the UVVA says nothing different.
     
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    You could NOT answer: How? declare marshall law? Trump dictates to the Supreme Court what their decision is without anyone presenting a case?


    How is RVW going to be overturned?
     
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    So your position is that a child in utero is a person? Great, progress.
     
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    What are you blathering about? Nobody said no case would be presented.
     
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    No n
    No need. I like living in a country that protects life . I am not the one pushing a right to kill.
     
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    The act referred to a "child in utero " , it did not, and cannot make a fetus into a legal person.

    You mistake the need for the clause. It wasn't needed in reference to whether it was homicide or not....it was meant to show that it had no standing on abortion laws..


    BTW, how many women who had abortions have been prosecuted under the UVVA ???

    :nana:[/QUOTE]
    Well there is a specific exception for abortion, otherwise many would have been. The exception itself proves the homicide argument.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Yup, when it's "in utero"....and the UVVA says nothing different.


    Obviously you only see what you want to see and don't let facts get in your way.

    HOW many women have been charged with murder under the UVVA ?
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    You could NOT answer: How? declare marshall law? Trump dictates to the Supreme Court what their decision is without anyone presenting a case?


    How is RVW going to be overturned?




    Including me....:) nice attempt at avoiding the questions....(expected)


    ...and you can't tell me WHAT will be in their case against RvW….



    HOW many women have been charged with murder under the UVVA ?
     
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    So the country you are in protects "life"...it has no wars ?

    You ARE the one pushing to have women's right to their own bodies eliminated….which is NOT protecting life and has nothing to do with this country and it's platform of Freedom and Liberty for ALL..





    HOW many women have been charged with murder under the UVVA ?
     
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    YES, because a fetus is NOT a legal person. ("otherwise" doesn't count)




    The exception proves that the UVVA does NOT make a fetus a legal person.

    IF it did then women who have abortions would be charged under the UVVA...


    The fetus is only "protected" under the UVVA it is NOT anywhere deemed a person with rights, NO where....
     
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    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why do you want the USA to be like ISIS?

    Only third world hellholes, Islamic Republics and American conservatives try to ban abortion. Peas in a pod, those groups are.

    The anti-abortion movement only started around 1980, when the Reagan team thought it would make good politics. That's how recent your historical, biological and moral revisionism is. Prior to that, even evangelicals supported abortion rights. The modern anti-abortion philosophy is literally younger than the McDonalds Happy Meal.
     
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    Yes..before viability..before any neural connections. Do you think a zygote is the same as a toddler? Is it acorn the same as an oak tree? You seem to have a problem with the word potential
     
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    Note it does not say zygote, embryo or fetus
     
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