abortion, rape, and guns.

So what?

The point was someone said people drive as fast as they want and drink and drive wherever they are.

Unfortunately people do in the U.S., and because of that millions of people die.

The original point was the OP was going on about the freedom of cars and food, etc.

Well there isn't freedom. there are laws and rules.

Same with guns and everything else.

 

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Well there isn't freedom. there are laws and rules.

Same with guns and everything else.[/QUOTE]

with you, I get that.

 

Yeh, they only care about death from a couple causes. Weird isn’t it? Actually it’s around 88,000 deaths a year from alcohol alone. I have yet to see a thread calling for more alcohol control here. Very strange. Borderline hypocritical. No, full blown hypocritical.

 

https://www.etymonline.com/word/Human:
any word you want a definition for just google the word and etymology. I've already given you the definition for the word "human" and the meaning of "being" as in human being means existence.
You can't copy and paste from the etymonline, and I'm not going to type the whole thing out. You can look it up.

 

I have. The 2 are mutually exclusive.

 

No. As it depends entirely upon the woman’s body to sustain itself.

No person has the right to use another’s body.

 

So science isn't your thing. Got it.

I’m fine where I’m going. It’s why abortion is legal in all 50 states.

 

Yeh, actually it is. Either sexual pleasure is a product of evolution or it isn’t. Just because it’s fooled you into subconsciously making procreation more likely isn’t my fault. It’s kind of funny though. People thinking they’ve somehow evolved past the point where evolution applies to them.

Yes, I know. Legality is what counts. To you. And to the Sharia adherents that kill kids in honor killings. Deep thoughts.

 

There is no correct answer that we can dictate righteously to others. Telling others how they must live is also morally indefensible when it is taken too far.

 

As does a child for years.

Oh yes they do. It’s legal in all 50 states.

 

pleas cite the post in which i’ve made that argument.

 

Right, so science isn’t your thing.

Oh look, that’s one huge red herring you caught there.

 

No it doesn’t.

They do not in any US state.

 

So who gets to decide that?

And what the hell does any of that have to do with religion?

 

How is it not a solution for rape?
Women cannot defend themselves with firearms? Ever?

If your only acceptable solution to rape is one which will -always- prevent the woman from being raped, you will not find one.

 

As usual you have no rebuttal with substance. Carry on.

 

Right. Wolves will raise the child if the mother doesn’t. He he.

Some of us use our bodies to sustain others up to 50% of the time.

 

Uh, my rebuttal is the legal reality in the US. Abortion is legal in all 50 states. No state can ban it. Consent to sex is not consent to pregnancy.

None of the above facts are in any way debatable.

 

You made an incorrect statement. I pointed it out.

No you don’t.

 

I AM STILL NOT MAKING AN ARGUMENT AGAINST GUN OWNERSHIP!

Correct, but that is what the word solution means. There is no solution to rape, just as there is no solution to murder, child abuse or theft. We can reduce it and we can better manage the harms that result of it but we’re not going to prevent it happening at all. Implying that we can, even inadvertently, is counter-productive. The OP remains fundamentally flawed in doing that to try to spin out a different political point.

 

No. You contradict. You never provide and substance or argument. Saying someone is wrong doesn’t make it so.

Yes. It’s slavery by percentages. We have ways now to figure out what percentage of slavery populations will tolerate. And we push the limit. Just because someone isn’t 100% slave doesn’t make it not slavery. Is it ok if half a fetus uses a women’s body? Or 36% of a fetus?

 

I can think of TENS OF THOUSANDS of examples proving how out of touch you are on the subject LMFAO

 

Nope. Is bowed why you were wrong.

Nope. Nobody is even 1% slave in the US. This was abolished by the 13th amendment.

 

No you can’t. It’s why abortion is legal, and your position rejected by constitutional law.