About the Holocaust

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  1. Ronald Hillman

    Ronald Hillman Banned

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    Interesting your own source indicates there were gas chambers at Auschwitz but you deny that in the above post.
     
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    You have to have your head in another orifice to believe the outrageous lies peddled by the international, multi billion dollar Holocaust Industry.

    In fact, even the ADL admits that the vast majority of the world does not believe the fictional holocaust narrative:


    ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”
    https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/

    EXCERPT “Only 54 percent of the world's population has heard of the Holocaust.

    This is the most staggering statistic in a new survey by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of more than 53,000 people in over 100 countries, conducted by First International Resources.

    Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts.

    Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth.

    Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."

    - Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated.

    - people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED
     
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    And in Poland.
    The nastiest Nazi extermination camps (including Auschwitz-Birkenau) were located in german-occupied Poland.
     
  4. Ronald Hillman

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    The ADL does not admit the Holocaust is fictional, you make that assertion.
     
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    The witness in the excerpt I cited is simply repeating Allied propaganda he had heard earlier about homicidal gas chambers but does not claim that he saw any.

    Certainly, you don't think that only the "other" side used fictitious propaganda to demonize the enemy?

    The only "gas chambers" at any of the German run work camps were delousing chambers used to disinfect lice infested clothes, blankets etc.
     
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    Holocaust denial at it's finest.
    Who should still believe you when you say you are not an HC denier? :(
     
  7. Ronald Hillman

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    “We did not know what would happen to us. We thought at one time they would stick us in the gas chamber,” said Ron. “It was not just Jews going in, it was Polish, political prisoners, gypsies, homosexuals.”
    https://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/british-prisoner-war-returns-nazi-death-camp-bury.html

    "The first Sunday we went to the playing fields, we saw these people - well walking skeletons they were really - digging trenches," he said.

    "We asked, 'Who are those poor sods?' and the German guards shout 'Juden', Jews, as if it had been a stupid question.

    "We could only play in the summer, because everything was covered in snow through the winter. But when it was hot, this awful stench would waft across from the crematoriums.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-west-wales-16679938

    So let me get this straight you quoted a source to back up your allegations who in your own words "is simply repeating Allied propaganda he had heard earlier about homicidal gas chambers" How do you tell?
     
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    I did not claim that the ADL admits that the standard holocaust narrative(SHN) is fictional. I only cited their study in which they concluded that far more people do not believe the SHN than have been successfully deceived by the fraudulent Holocaust Industry(1)



    (1). "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"
    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298

    EXCERPT "Writing to the Claims Conference’s board last week, recently terminated ombudsman Shmuel Hollander asserted that, while reports had said organizational insiders had siphoned off $57 million in German taxpayer funds meant for survivors, “the final sum is in all probability much higher.”CONTINUED
     
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    This suggests that money is being obtained fraudulantly it has nothing to do with whether the Holocaust actually happened, does it?
     
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    I base my assertion on my original question which was:

    If the Germans were busily beating, starving and gassing inmates all day, why does one former inmate admit the fact that:
    "The Germans, contrary to what a lot of people think, were pretty good to us on the whole."?

    The inmate, "Ron" contradicts himself and never claims to have seen gas chambers or anyone gassed.

    Myths about "homicidal, German gas chambers" were as prolific during WW 2 as the myths that Germans cut off the hands of infants were during WW 1.

    If millions of people were gassed in homicidal gas chambers as per holocaust lore, they would have needed hundreds of homicidal gas chambers but not one exists or existed.
    Where are they all?
     
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    It is there in Rons testimony,

    E715 was located close to Auschwitz III, Monowitz, which held mainly Polish resistance fighters, political dissidents, homosexuals and some captured Soviet troops.

    Whilst this was not officially a death camp, Mr Jones says it did not take long for him to realise that the inmates at Monowitz were far from safe.

    "In the nights you could hear shots coming from Monowitz," he said.

    "Not bursts like you had when you were fighting, but deliberate, regular every few seconds; like they had a system going.

    "We didn't know who they were or why they'd been killed, and we couldn't help but be terrified that we'd be next."

    'Walking skeletons'
    But when the British PoWs were allowed out to play football, they would be taken to fields next to Auschwitz II, Birkenau, where killing was on an altogether more industrial scale.

    The reason is there in the text and so is the claim that he saw

    So what do you think Ron means by this?
     
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    Firstly, I don't deny that Bolsheviks, Communists, the Roma, Jews, and other threats, real or perceived, were put into work camps where some were executed but most died of disease or natural causes.
    Like most people on this planet, I simply don't believe the inflated numbers and exaggerated horrors promulgated by the profit hungry & corrupt Holocaust Industry.
    If the influential and fraudulent Holocaust Industry would stoop so low as to cheat survivors, it would certainly inflate horrors and casualty numbers to extract more money from entities around the world.
     
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    You still haven't answered my question which was:

    If the Germans were busily beating, starving and gassing inmates all day, why does one former inmate admit the fact that:
    "The Germans, contrary to what a lot of people think, were pretty good to us on the whole."?
     
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    Yes I have, he was not in Birkenau, what do you not understand?

    Further testiment from british POWS,

    Alongside the main Auschwitz complex was a prisoner-of-war camp known as Auschwitz E715, where the inmates included several hundred British soldiers.

    https://www.thejc.com/lifestyle/features/revealed-the-british-troops-imprisoned-at-auschwitz-1.13446
     
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    No the deflection shown by people who quote a source but say "only believe the bit convienent to my narrative and ignore what the rest of what my source writes." This is typical of the Holocaust Denier, quote mine and ignore any search for inconvienient truths. When this is pointed out. throw in a big meme to try to cover it up.

    Do you deny that the witness YOU quoted also claimed that there were gas chambers and crematoriams there?
     
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    Utterly irelavant to whether the Holocaust actually happened, I agree with Finklestien on the Holocaust Industry but he certainly does not claim the Holocaust did not happen!
     
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    Because Hitler didn’t want them in Germany.
     
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    Oddly some Jews are returning to Berlin ? ??
     
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    Sure they know that they are the ones that holocausted the germans LOL
     
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    they declared war on germany, america threw all the japenese american citizens in good standing in concentrations camps that ere not political enemies of the state compared to the jews in germany that were.
     
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    we all know the J-Ws roasted the germans, burned them alive in the J-W celebration of their holocaust ritual.
     
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    Like when you pretend that the J-Ws declaration of war against germany was a prank? Doesnt get much more convenient than that.

    Yeh there are a lot of inconvenient truths


    EVERYTHING YOU THINK KNOW ARE NOTHING BUT LIES

    Marxi-Commie-Zionist J-Ws continue to blather the same lies today as then.



    "I KNOW, BUT IN MY IMAGINATION
    IT WAS TRUE"



    Just like their Lying leader

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    SOME EVENTS TAKE PLACE BUT ARE NOT TRUE, OTHER EVENTS ARE [true], ALTHOUGH THEY NEVER OCCURRED
    ~J-W Elie the Weasel

    But Elie you low down no good for **** weasel, "THAT MEANS YOU ARE TELLING LIES!" ~Rabbi


    My imagination is pretty good but there is no way I could begin to fathom some of the ridiculous stories the J-Ws have invented

    J-W propaganda:
    - Stealing J-Ws money and property - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Money went into trust awaiting J-Ws arrival in Israel.

    J-W propaganda:
    - Lamp shades made from J-W skin - PROVEN LIES
    Truth -
    Camp rumors to scare new internees

    J-W propaganda:
    - J-W Soap rendered from J-W fat - PROVEN LIES
    Truth -
    Camp rumors to scare new internees

    J-W propaganda:
    - Shrunken J-W heads - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Camp rumors to scare new internees

    J-W propaganda:
    - J-W Electrocution Conveyors - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Camp rumors to scare new internees

    J-W propaganda:
    - Gassing J-Ws - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - US Crimes Diision Forensic Dr Charles Larson tested thousands of bodies, NO Signs of Gassed J-Ws.
    Truth - UK Dr Gordon, found no gassed J-Ws at any Nazi camp.
    Truth - Veinna Miltary Police NO Gassed J-Ws, Issued warning spreading lies about to be brought a court.

    J-W propaganda:
    - Massive J-W Murders - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - NO mass graves can be found.

    J-W propaganda:
    - Sick J-Ws Killed - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - the sick were taken to the Hospital
    Truth - the weak were not killed, they were assigned duties they could handle.

    J-W propaganda:
    - J-W Children Killed - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Children were alive and well taken care of.

    J-W propaganda:
    - Final Solution = Death/Genocide - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Hitlers Havaara Agreement was to Deport J-Ws
    Truth - Zionist J-W Gerhart Riegner secretary of the World Jewish Congress Admits the Final SOlution was to DEPORT J-Ws.
    Truth - Zionist J-W Gerhart Riegner secretary of the World Jewish Congress Admits the Final Solution was to DEPORT the J-Ws NOT harm, NOT murder, NOT kill NOT EXTERMINATE, by any means what so ever.
    Truth - Camp records recorded deporations

    J-W propaganda:
    - Hitler was a Psychopathic War Monger - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Hitler made Unconditional Peace offer '#1' May 17, 1933
    Truth - UK, US, France, Poland, all Allies ignored it without response.

    J-W propaganda:
    - Hitler was a Psychopathic War Monger - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Hitler made Unconditional Peace offer '#2' December 18, 1933
    Truth - UK, US, France, Poland, all Allies ignored it without response.

    J-W propaganda:
    - Hitler was a Psychopathic War Monger - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Hitler made Unconditional Peace offer '#3' May 21, 1935
    Truth - - UK, US, France, Poland, all Allies ignored it without response.

    J-W propaganda:
    - Hitler was a Psychopathic War Monger - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Hitler made Unconditional Peace offer '#4' March 31, 1936
    Truth - UK, US, France, Poland, all Allies ignored it without response.

    J-W propaganda:
    - Hitler was a Psychopathic War Monger - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Hitler made Unconditional Peace offer '#5' September 30, 1938
    Truth - UK, US, France, Poland, all Allies ignored it without response.

    J-W propaganda:
    - Hitler was a Psychopathic War Monger - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Hitler made Unconditional Peace offer '#6' December 6, 1938
    Truth - UK, US, France, Poland, all Allies ignored it without response.

    J-W propaganda:
    - Hitler was a Psychopathic War Monger - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Hitler made Unconditional Peace offer '#7' 1939 to Poland to settle the Danzig Corridor issue peacefully
    Truth - UK, US, France, Poland, all Allies ignored it without response.

    J-W propaganda:
    - Nazi Death Camps - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Work, Labor and Transit Camps

    J-W propaganda:
    - J-Ws Steamed to death - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Prisoners had the luxury of hot showers

    J-W propaganda:
    - J-Ws Could tell who was being gassed by color of smoke - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Crematoria's do not emit any smoke

    J-W propaganda:
    - J-Ws - Finger nail marks in cement - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Its impossible for finger nails to gouge cement

    J-W propaganda:
    - 6 MILLION J-Ws MURDERED IN GAS CHAMBERS - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Mathematically and Logistically Impossible
    Truth - 3,500,000 (3.5 Million) J-Ws applied for reparations money.
    Truth - Auschwitz 4 Million Death toll Officially reduced to 1 Million.
    Truth - Total Prisoners Through Auschwitz was 373,000, Truth - Official revisions report 600,000 more dead than were at the facility..

    J-W propaganda:
    - Hitler Started the War - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - J-Ws Declared War on Germany and Started the War
    Truth - Poles Slaughtered over 50,000 German Civilians
    Truth - Churchill Dropped the first bombs
    Truth - Poles Slaughtered over 50,000 German Civilians

    J-W propaganda:
    - Indiscrimate Bombing Civilians First - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Churchhill was the first Target Civilians
    America Followed lock step

    J-W propaganda:
    - Children went straight to the Gas Chambers - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Day Care facilities provided for children.

    J-W propaganda:
    - J-Ws Victims of Nazi Conducted Holocaust Ritual - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Germans are the Human sacrificial victims of the ritual 'Holocaust' offering performed by the J-Ws to appease their G-D for sin. See Dresden et al

    J-W propaganda:
    - German Camps Were 'Death' Camps - PROVEN LIES
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Musicals,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Their own money,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Were --- Paid to work for the Germans,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Were --- Not slaves, Neither did they perform slave labor,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Horse Grooming,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Swimming Pools,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Soccer Games,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Cigarettes,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Movies,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Plays,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Theater,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Concerts,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Weekend passes to events at other Camps,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Post Cards etc to write to loved ones,
    Truth - J-Ws Enjoyed Their own on camp whore house,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Violin Quartets 'played in the barracks',

    Truth - J-Ws Enjoyed BEER SERVED AT THE CANTINA, at Auschwitz!

    Truth - J-Ws Enjoyed BEER SERVED AT THE CANTINA, at Auschwitz!

    Truth - J-Ws Enjoyed BEER SERVED AT THE CANTINA, at Auschwitz!


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    Jews as distinguished from Marxi-Commie-Zionist J-W Liars testified that they were even able to buy BEER at the cantina at auschwitz! WTF?? :eekeyes::eekeyes::eekeyes::eekeyes::eekeyes:

    Who the hell ever heard of prisoners of war being served BEER?

    'Death' Camps Seriously? F*cking Seriously??


    If thats a death camp we have plenty of homeless people on the streets here in the US that would kiss your asses to have it that good!!!!

    Since when does a 'DEATH' camp serve BEER to those who were ready to be gassed the second they walked in the gate?

    Marxi-Zio-Commie J-Ws please feel free to post any MATERIAL evidence you wish to refute the PROVEN LIES IMPOSED upon the world By the Marxi-Zio-Commie J-Ws.


    I have asked you several questions to give you the opportunity to convince people the J-W as victim holocaust is true, and not only have you failed to rebut any of the points made, you failed to provide any reasonable response what so ever, worse pretended all those proven lies were ever posted.

    Seriously explain why you would expect anyone to believe the hc is true considering all the nothing you have posted for citations? Elie the weasel thinks anything he claims is true even when its false, whats up with that?

    At the top of the post:

    Narrator: But thats not the truth.

    J-W: "I KNOW BUT IN MY IMAGINATION IT WAS TRUE"

    Do you hold the same opinion?
     
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    1) That is a great exaggeration. After Stalin suppressed Trotskyism, there were excesses, but not nearly as bad as portrayed.

    2) I was never a Russian and I will never be an American. I am Jewish.

    3) Taxing billionaires and millionaires is fair.
     

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