About the Holocaust

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  1. pitbull

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    If you're Jewish and US citizen then you're an American Jew,
     
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    Yes dear, and now there are no germans left they all have a bit of Russian,American, French or British in them!
     
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    Full text of "Kaufman, Theodore - Germany must Perish (1941)"

    Germany Must Perish!

    by Theodore N. Kaufman
    Newark, N.J., Argyle press
    Copyright 1941
    Library’ of Congress Call No.: DD222.K3

    GERMANY MUST PERISH!

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    Kaufman's fervent proposal for the systematic sterilization of the entire German population was given respectful attention in the American press, including reviews in a number of newspapers. A review in the weekly Time
    magazine, March 24, 1941, called Kaufman's plan a "sensational idea."
    https://archive.org/stream/KaufmanTheodoreGermanyMustPerishEN194135P./Kaufman,+Theodore+-+Germany+must+Perish+(EN,+1941,+35+p.)_djvu.txt

    As it was Britain and France who actually declared war (involving themselves in a regional conflict to expand it into an international blood-bath) and the United States was not yet officially involved, moral arguments had to be found to prepare the collective mind of Americans. Kaufman calls for world peace and says that the extermination of the German people is the precondition for that.

    We must remember that this ideology of genocidal extermination and persecution of an entire people, came from a very politically influential Jewish mind, supported by all the worlds influential Jewish organisation’s and expanded into western policy, then agreed by Churchill, Stalin and Roosevelt with the Morgenthau Plan… with some final minor adjustments.

    The language is Jewish, the ideology is Jewish, it was written by someone with a blinding racial and genocidal hatred toward a whole people, the German people – which history has shown us to be one of the finest, most creative, ingenuitive and refined, decent people on earth – a combination of qualities, which would perhaps, pose a threat to certain political, economical and geographical interests?

    It is only fair that the language is turned back on those who supported the mass murder and ‘PERSECUTION’ of the Germans, a clear premeditated intent to commit ‘Crimes Against Humanity‘ based on this very book and then legislated by the ‘Victors’ with the Morgenthau Plan.

    So how would the hateful intent of this Jewish literature be received if we simply exchanged the words, ‘Hitler’ for ‘Netanyahu’ – ‘Nazi’s’ for ‘Zionists’‘Germans’ for ‘Jews’ and ‘Germany’ for ‘Israel’ etc?

    Let’s see how it looks…

    “Today’s wars are not wars against Benjamin Netanyahu. Nor are they wars against the Zionists… Benjamin Netanyahu is no more to be blamed for these Israeli wars than was Sharon for the last one. Nor Begin before. These men did not originate or wage Israel’s wars against the world. They were merely the mirrors reflecting centuries-old inbred lust of the Jewish nation for conquest and mass murder. These wars are being waged by the Jewish people. It is they who are responsible. It is they who must be made to pay for the wars. …This time Israel has forced a TOTAL WAR upon the world. As a result, she must be prepared to pay a TOTAL PENALTY.

    And there is one, and only one, such Total Penalty, Israel must perish forever!
    In fact – not in fancy!”

    […]
    “Then why does war still exist?
    Simply because it has not been made impossible for it to be waged.
    There is only one way to abolish war: impose a penalty of such dire magnitude and frightful consequence upon aggressor peoples as to render it virtually impossible for any nation to start a war.”

    https://20thcenturytruth.wordpress.com/germany-must-perish/
     
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    Yes dear it was all those nasty nasty Jews, careful one might be hiding underneath your bed now, pull the duvet up tight and he wont get you!
     
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    Hitler sued for peace 9 times:

    Hitler’s Peace Offers 1933–1940
    by Friedrich Stieve (Author)

    Written by Germany’s foremost diplomatic historian of the early twentieth century, this work maps out all the numerous times that Adolf Hitler made unconditional offers of peace to all the nations of Europe—and how the major anti-German belligerents, France and Britain, turned down these offers each and every time.

    The author lists all of Hitler’s offers [for peace] in detail, complete with quotes, starting with:


    Hitlers first unconditional offer [for peace] of May 17, 1933,

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    Hitlers second unconditional offer [for peace] of December 18, 1933,

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    Hitlers third unconditional offer [for peace of May 21, 1935,

    ALLIES RESPONSE: [​IMG]

    Hitlers fourth unconditional offer [for peace] of March 31, 1936,

    ALLIES RESPONSE: [​IMG]

    Hitlers fifth unconditional offer [for peace] of September 30, 1938,

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    Hitlers sixth unconditional offer [for peace] of December 6, 1938,

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    Hitlers seventh unconditional offer [for peace] of late 1939 to Poland

    to settle the Danzig Corridor issue peacefully, and finally,

    Hitlers Eighth unconditional offer of [for] world peace on October 6, 1939,


    https://www.amazon.com/What-World-Rejected-Hitlers-1933-1940-ebook/dp/B00M5K8OEM


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    definition:
    anti-semitism
    The belief or behavior hostile toward Jews just because they are Jewish.
    https://www.adl.org/anti-semitism



    Real 'Jews' reject the marxist-zio-commies and their apologists:

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    I suppose you want to tell us next that these REAL 'Jews', oh and look they are rabis too, that they are hate filled neonazi sympathizers
     
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    Did you not know, Jews are responsible for Coronavirus, Chinese Jews with big noses that is how they spread it, better get a mask or they will get you!
     
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    no I did not know that and you wont convince me without material evidence, citations please?


    Witnesses to the Gas Chambers of Auschwitz
    By Robert Faurisson
    Published: 1993-01-01

    My first trial took place in 1981, followed by the appeal in 1983. Not one single [self declared] witness took the risk of appearing in court.

    On April 26, 1983, the Paris Court of Appeal rendered its verdict. Naturally, I was found guilty, as one might have expected, for "harm to others" which is in fact to say for harm caused to Jews for the exposition of my theses in the mainstream press. Yet the court coupled this verdict with remarks sufficient to cause my adversaries a fair degree of consternation. My work was judged to be serious and yet dangerous. It was dangerous because, in the opinion of the judges, it appeared I allowed other persons the possibility of exploiting my discoveries for reprehensible ends!

    All the while, this same work was serious in the sense that, in the opinion of the court, one could uncover neither negligence, frivolousness, willful ignorance, nor lies - and this contrary to what had been affirmed by the adversarial party, which had accused me of "causing harm to others by falsification of history." (sic)

    On the subject of testimonies, the court went so far as to pronounce:

    "The researches of Mr. Faurisson have dealt with the existence of the gas chambers which, to believe multiple testimonies, would have been used during the Second World War to systematically put to death a portion of those persons deported by the German authorities." (my emphasis)

    The court perfectly summarized what it called my "logical thread" and my "reasoning" by specifying it, for me,

    The Judge:
    "[...] the existence of the gas chambers, such as usually described since 1945, conflict with an absolute impossibility, which suffices by itself to invalidate all the existing testimonies or, at the least, to stamp them with suspicion."

    which suffices by itself to invalidate all the existing testimonies [claiming gas chambers as :icon_shithappens: ]

    which suffices by itself to invalidate all the existing testimonies [claiming gas chambers as :icon_shithappens: ]

    invalidate all the existing testimonies [claiming gas chambers as :icon_shithappens: ]

    invalidate all the existing testimonies [ claiming gas chambers as :icon_shithappens: ]

    invalidate all the existing testimonies [ claiming gas chambers as :icon_shithappens: ]


    Finally, the court, drawing a practical conclusion from these considerations, decreed the right of every Frenchman not to believe in the evidence and witnesses of the gas chambers. It stated:

    "The value of the conclusions defended by Mr. Faurisson [as to the problem of the gas chambers] rests therefore upon the sole appreciation of the experts, the historians and the public."

    Two weeks later, Simone Veil publicly reacted to this judicial decision - upsetting for her and her co-religionists - with a declaration of extreme importance. She admitted the absence of proofs, of traces and even witnesses of the gas chambers, but added this absence was easily explained because:

    "Everyone knows [she asserts] that the Nazis destroyed these gas chambers and systematically eradicated all the witnesses." :icon_shithappens::icon_shithitsthefan

    To begin with, "everyone knows" is not an argument worthy of a jurist. Furthermore, Simone Veil, believing perhaps to be getting out from behind the eight-ball, made her case only worse; in effect, in order to uphold what she was claiming, it would have been necessary for her to prove not only that the gas chambers had existed but that the 'Nazis' had destroyed them and that they liquidated all the witnesses: a vast criminal undertaking about which one wonders on what order, when, with whom and by what means the Germans would have carried it out in greatest secrecy.

    But what does it matter? We shall take note of this concession by S. Veil: there is neither proof, nor traces, nor witnesses to the gas chambers.

    It so happens that, in trying to reassure her circle, S. Veil clothed this surprising concession with conventional parlance. Here is, therefore, in her own words, what she confided in an interview-event for France-Soir Magazine (May 7, 1983, p. 47), of which the title was: "Simone Veil's warning in regard to Hitler's diaries: 'We risk banalizing genocide'":

    By Robert Faurisson
    1993-01-01




    Allied Military Police

    NO GASSING

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    It was proven not only by the US Criminal Forensic Expert Charles Larsen, and Britains Barton, way back in 1945 and a memo circulated to the police centers in 1948 that no gassing took place, yet the Marxi-Zio-Commie J-Ws evangelize spreading massive propaganda and LIES.


    Gas chambers? :icon_shithappens:
    Mass murder? :icon_shithappens:
    Extermination, (murdered J-Ws)? :icon_shithappens:


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    I saw it in a tabloid newspaper, it was an official proclamation from the Jews in the world and someone wrote it on a wall (but it washed off and there was no toilet paper so you can imagine what happened to the newspaper) still it MUST be true because someone asserted it!
     
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    some people are so sheltered from reality.

    Instead of incessantly ignoring the facts why dont you think of how the J-Ws at the top, that betrayed hitler and used the US, UK and allies as proxies to steal palestine.

    The J-Ws SUCCESSFULLY STARVED OUT THE
    GERMAN PEOPLE CAUSING THE WAR

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    The J-Ws DECLARED WAR ON GERMANY!

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    BRITAIN AGREES WITH HITLER,

    BRITAIN BLAMES THE J-Ws FOR THE WAR!!

    - An extract from The Forrestal Diaries, in which the US Secretary of State William Forrestal quotes British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain as complaining that “the world Jews” have forced England into the war.

    How can such a tiny minority possibly have so much power over giant nations?


    “Judea declares War on Germany.” (Daily Express, March 24, 1934)

    “The millions of Jews who live in America, England and France, North and South Africa, and, not to forget those in Palestine, are determined to bring the war of annihilation against Germany to its final end.” (The Jewish newspaper, Central Blad Voor Israeliten in Nederland, September 13, 1939)

    “Germany is the enemy of Judaism and must be pursued with deadly hatred. The goal of Judaism of today is: a merciless campaign against all German peoples and the complete destruction of the nation. We demand a complete blockade of trade, the importation of raw materials stopped, and retaliation towards every German, woman and child.” (Jewish professor A. Kulischer, October, 1937)

    “Germany is our public enemy number one. It is our object to declare war without mercy against her. It is our task to organise the moral and cultural blockade of Germany and disperse this nation. It is up to us to start a merciless war.” – Bernard Lecache, President of the World Jewish League

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    Our fight against Germany must be carried to the limit of what is possible. Israel has been attacked. Let us, therefore, defend Israel! Against the awakened Germany, we put an awakened Israel. And the world will defend us.”
    (Jewish author Pierre Creange in his book Epitres aux Juifs, 1938)

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    Germany must be turned into a waste land, as happened there during the 30-year War.” (Das Morgenthau-Tagebuch, The Morgenthau Dairy, p. 11).

    “The fight against Germany has now been waged for months by every Jewish community, on every conference, in all labor unions and by every single Jew in the world. There are reasons for the assumption that our share in this fight is of general importance. We shall start a spiritual and material war of the whole world against Germany. Germany is striving to become once again a great nation, and to recover her lost territories as well as her colonies. But our Jewish interests call for the complete destruction of Germany… (Valadimir Jabotinsky, in Mascha Rjetsch, January, 1934)

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    “Each of you, Jew and Gentile alike, who has not already enlisted in this sacred war should do so now and here. It is not sufficient that you should buy no goods made in Germany. You must refuse to deal with any merchant or shopkeeper who sells any German-made goods or who patronises German ships or shipping…. we will undermine the Hitler regime and bring the German people to their senses by destroying their export trade on which their very existence depends.”

    – Samuel Undermeyer, in a Radio Broadcast on WABC, New York, August 6, 1933. Reported in the New York Times, August 7, 1933

    How did hitler respond?

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    HITLER SERVED BEER TO J-Ws in auschwitz


    Hitler certainly had good reason to take the J-Ws seriously when he was faced dealing with a nation of starving people and Germans being slaughtered by the thousands by the poles prior to and yet another cause of the war.

    Why do you continue to ignore the facts?

    The J-Ws started and were the cause of the war,

    BRITAIN AGREES WITH HITLER,

    BRITAIN BLAMES THE J-Ws FOR THE WAR!!

    - An extract from The Forrestal Diaries, in which the US Secretary of State William Forrestal quotes British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain as complaining that “the world Jews” have forced England into the war.


    They betrayed promises made to Hitler as a result of their predatory nature of power/war-mongering greed as can be seen by their statements.

    This was BEFORE the war

    Why do you support liars and backstabbers, is that the kind of world you want to live in?

     
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    Calm down dear, we all know it was the Jews what did it! Thanks for the entertainment, watch out for those Jews, I hear they are all over the internet and can trace you with their x-ray eyes!
     
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    Calm down? I have the facts, I can do this in my sleep without rubbing 2 brain cells together its so easy because the marxi-commie-zionist J-W apologists dont have one shred of material evidence!

    EISENHOWERS VACATION HIDEAWAY FOR GERMANS!



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    compared to:
    HITLERS DEATH CAMP FOR J-Ws


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    Here is a nice Jewish man telling the truth, they served beer at auschwitz in the cantina!



    The mass killing of Germans at the end of WW2.
     
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    Psst, dont forget those nasty big nosed commie Jews from Russia they killed 375,000 glorious representatives of the kind and benevolent Adolf Hitler, such a nice kind man, look at him with his dog!

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    The Jews made him shoot his doggie and misses, bastards!
     
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    Remarkable tale of Hitler's young Jewish friend

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    At first glance, the picture of the man hugging the beaming young girl appears to show a scene of great happiness.

    But a closer look reveals a far darker tale: this is Adolf Hitler, the man behind the murder of six million Jews, and the little girl is Jewish.

    Despite this, Hitler would go on to build a friendship with Rosa Bernile Nienau, which only ended when top Nazi officials intervened five years later.

    And now this rare, signed image from 1933 is going up for auction in the US.

    Alexander Historical Auctions, in Maryland, estimates the picture, taken by photographer Heinrich Hoffmann, could fetch as much as $10,000 (£7,500) when it goes on sale on Tuesday.

    "The signed version is a never-before publicly seen piece," auctioneer Bill Panagopulos told MailOnline.

    "Hitler was very often photographed with children for propaganda purposes. The shocking thing about this piece is it seems he had a genuine affinity for the young girl.

    "I was simply stunned."

    'Hitler's sweetheart'

    It was a shared birthday which brought a little girl and the Nazi leader together.

    According to the auction website, Rosa and her mother had joined the crowds outside Hitler's Alpine retreat Berghof in 1933 on his birthday.

    It is thought that when he discovered Rosa had the same birthday, he invited Rosa and her mother Karoline up to the house - where these photographs were taken.

    Not long afterwards, it was discovered that Karoline's mother had been Jewish, making Rosa Jewish in the eyes of the Nazi state.

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    Hitler continued the friendship despite knowing her Jewish heritage
    But this did not dissuade Hitler from carrying on his friendship with girl, to whom he had sent a signed copy of the photograph.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46192941

    You must enjoy having all that crazy **** you post flushed right down the toilet.
     
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    Did the Jews make her kill herself like they did with Uncle Adolf's other girlfriends?
     
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    Whilst it is good fun playing with real Jew hating, Adolf loving holocaust deniers it should not be forgotten that there are some serious historians who have peddled this rubbish and are more likely to influence people than sad cases who want to shock the world.

    What happens when someone has to prove one of the main subjects of Holocaust denial like the gas chambers?
    Below is an interesting video made about what evidence was used to prove to a British court that gas chambers existed.

     
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    You're both missing my point and continuing to do what most deluded holocaustians do: evade questions.

    If the Germans were busily beating, starving and gassing inmates all day, why does one former inmate admit the fact that:
    "The Germans, contrary to what a lot of people think, were pretty good to us on the whole."?

    It doesn't matter where he was. When "Ron" goes off-script and says: "The Germans, contrary to what a lot of people think, were pretty good to us on the whole." he contradicts the usual scripted nonsense about homicidal gas chambers etc.

    Either the Germans were cruel and murderous sadists as per the usual, fraudulent holocaust lore or they: "... were pretty good to us on the whole."

    Which is it?

    I also stated that in order for the Germans to have "gassed millions of people" as frequently claimed they would have needed hundreds of homicidal gas chambers but not one exists or ever existed in any German run camp.

    Where are all of them or are you too busy with dilettante philosophizing about "Holocaust Deniers" to answer.
     
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    It is neither, the fact that Nazi guards were ok with British POWs is not surprising, remember that according to Nazism the British were part of a superior race, they were not Jews who the Nazis saw as the major threat to their culture and indeed the whole world. I have explained that Ron was not in the camp that had Jews in it and only saw what was going on when he went to play football.

    It has been proved in a British court of law that gas chambers existed in Auschwitz if there is strong evidence to the contrary lets get Irvine a retrial!

    I am happy to talk to you in a reasonable manner, rabid jew haters, as at least one person is on this thread are a different matter, you cannot argue with them and it is best to just mock them and have some fun with them.
     
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    only in your fertile imagination.

    why are you ignoring all these proofs of J-W lies?

    Dont you think its time to admit you have nothing?

    Why should anyone believe the proven lying J-Ws?
     
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    I, too, would far prefer a civil , reasonable and mature exchange while discussing this volatile topic.

    I've read enough of the Posts by @Kokomojojo to know that he does not hate Jews but rather condemns to role played some influential German hating Zionists that both brought about WW 2 and tormented Germany after WW 2. Rather than say any more about that, I'd prefer for him to speak for himself.
    I simply feel that you've ignored his numerous, valid citations, misinterpreted his sentiments and that mocking others serves no constructive purpose.

    In addition to having known numerous WW 2 Veterans & Holocaust survivors long before the term "Holocaust" was coined, I lived, worked and studied in what was formerly W. Germany in the early to mid 1970s where I came to know even more WW 2 Veterans & holocaust survivors of various nationalities who told a very different narrative than the distorted Hollywood version on which today's holocaust myths and stereotypes are based.

    One of the more memorable eyewitnesses I remember was a Russian survivor who had been captured by all the major armies. She reported that of all of her captors, the Germans treated her the best. Like the thousands of former inmates interviewed by the Red Cross(1) neither she no any other survivor made any mention of homicidal gas chambers, a Final Solution or any of the other fabrications generated by the Holocaust Industry.

    I wrote earlier that I don't know anyone who denies that some of the Roma, Jews, Communists and other threats, real or perceived were placed in work camps where some were executed but most of those who died perished due to shortages of food and medicine caused by Allied bombing of German transportation infrastructure. Both food and medicine was plentiful at Eisenhower's & Stalin's real death camps but was withheld out of sheer cruelty & genocidal malice.

    In reality, there was no German orchestrated "Final Solution" or order for the destruction of Europe's Jews(2) nor was there any "industrialized mass murder agenda" or else there would have been some mention of it in intercepted German radio transmissions(3) and/or the most credible, original, 1946 Red Cross Report(4).

    Finally, you may not be aware that the corrupt & fraudulent Holocaust Industry-Lobby is pushing for a monopoly on the brainwashing of American students with its "product" to the exclusion of the innumerable, more extensive and greater mass killings throughout history.(5)
    At a time when educated and independent thinking people around the country are suffering from Holocaust Fatigue, the last thing we need is decades more distorted, simplistic & fraudulent anti German bigotry.

    It's long past time that America's students learn more about the more heavily censored villains like Eisenhower, Churchill(6), Mao, Stalin and even Genrikh Yagota(7) and Leonid Reichman because it is my personal belief that no single race, nationality, religious or ethnic group holds a monopoly on either good or evil.



    (1) “The Problems of Mass Gassing”
    http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/05/was-there-really-a-judaic-holocaust/

    EXCERPT "The Vatican and Red Cross interviewed thousands of freed camp inmates at the end of the War about alleged gas chambers. The response was always the same, "The detainees themselves have not spoken of them" (Red Cross document No. 9925, June 1946)." CONTINUED


    (2) “To the present day a written order by Hitler regarding the destruction of the European Jewish community has not been found, and, in all probability, this order was never given.”

    - Walter Laqueur, Was niemand wissen wollte: Die Unterdruckung der Nachrichten uber Hitlers Endlösung (What Nobody Wanted to Know: The Suppression of News About Hitler’s “Final Solution”), (Berlin-Vienna, 1981), p.190


    (3). “THE HOLOCAUST NARRATIVE”
    https://archive.org/stream/BreakingTheSpell_48/BreakingTheSpell-Kollerstrom_djvu.txt

    EXCERPT “In 1941, British Intelligence analysts cracked the German “Enigma” code. This undermined the German war effort—but also threw new light on day-by-day events in the Nazi concentration camp system. Between January 1942 and January 1943, encrypted radio communications between those camps and the Berlin headquarters were intercepted and decrypted.

    Oddly enough, historians have largely ignored the information furnished in these intercepts relating to “arrivals,” “departures,” recorded deaths and other events at these camps.The only reasonable explanation is that the intercepted data contra-dicts, even refutes, the orthodox “Holocaust” narrative.

    The information does not expose a program of mass murder and racial genocide. Quite the opposite: it reveals that the Germans were determined, desperate even, to reduce the death rate in their work camps, which was caused by catastrophic typhus epidemics.”CONTINUED



    (4). "International Red Cross Report Confirms the Holocaust of Six Million Jews is a Hoax"
    http://www.renegadetribune.com/inte...ort-confirms-holocaust-six-million-jews-hoax/

    EXCERPT “In dealing with this comprehensive, three-volume Report, it is important to stress that the delegates of the International Red Cross found no evidence whatsoever of ‘gas chambers’.

    The original 1946 edition did not even talk of ‘extermination’ or ‘death camps’ but after the emotional impact of the Nuremberg trials the Red Cross felt compelled to introduce into the expanded 1948 Report several, very cursory references to ‘death camps’ (Vol. 1 p. 641) and ‘extermination camps’ (Vol. I p. 645).

    However, no means of ‘extermination’ is indicated.

    In all its 1,600 pages the three-volume Report does not even mention such a thing as a
    ‘gas chamber’.

    It acknowledges that Jews, like many other wartime nationalities, suffered rigours and privations, but’ its complete silence
    on the subject of ’gassings’ is ample refutation of the ‘Holocaust’ legend.”CONTINUED



    (5) "On Remembrance Day, US House overwhelmingly passes Holocaust education bill"
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/on-re...erwhelmingly-passes-holocaust-education-bill/


    (6) "Winston Churchill: the Imperial Monster"
    https://www.counterpunch.org/2015/01/28/winston-churchill-the-imperial-monster/


    (7) "Stalin's Jews"

    "We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish"

    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

    EXCERPT "And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people.

    In 1934, according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of those holding the most senior posts in the Soviet security apparatuses were of Jewish origin. They too, of course, were gradually eliminated in the next purges."CONTINUED
     
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    On the contrary I replied with a good, evidenced rebuttal of some of his posts, which he simply ignored (read my original posts in this thread)
    I do not bother to continue when people simply ignore the evidence.

    Here are some facts I would ask you to confirm or deny.

    Were the Jews forced to wear yellow stars because of no other reason than they were Jewish?
    Were the Jews forced into a sealed ghettos in Warsaw and other places because of no other reason than they were Jewish?
    Were the Jews rounded up and sent to camps in cattle trucks to camps because of no other reason than they were Jewish?
    Were Jews forced out of work and their homes in Germany because of no other reason than they were Jewish?
    Did the Einsatzgruppen murder thousands because of no other reason than they were Jewish?

    Those are enough facts to condemn Hitler and the Nazis without even getting to the contentious stuff, is it not?
     
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    you replied with no evidence what so ever. Conjecture, unsupported opinion, and speculation does not stand up to the material evidence presented to you. Sorry

    the J-W pointing to the crystals fortunately didnt die until moments after shutter clicked for the photo shoot!

    [​IMG]

    If you look closely you can see his finger starting to vaporize and disintegrate from the massive fumes.
     
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    I expect it was the Jews that made you not understand, watch out for the x-ray eyes!
     
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    But you dodged all the proven false claims that the J-Ws made, why?

    Like when you pretend that the J-Ws declaration of war against germany was a prank? Doesnt get much more convenient than that.

    Yeh there are a lot of inconvenient truths



    EVERYTHING YOU THINK KNOW ARE NOTHING BUT LIES

    Marxi-Commie-Zionist J-Ws continue to blather the same lies today as then.



    "I KNOW, BUT IN MY IMAGINATION
    IT WAS TRUE"



    Just like their Lying leader

    [​IMG]

    SOME EVENTS TAKE PLACE BUT ARE NOT TRUE, OTHER EVENTS ARE [true], ALTHOUGH THEY NEVER OCCURRED
    ~J-W Elie the Weasel

    But Elie you low down no good for **** weasel, "THAT MEANS YOU ARE TELLING LIES!" ~Rabbi


    My imagination is pretty good but there is no way I could begin to fathom some of the ridiculous stories the J-Ws have invented

    J-W propaganda:
    - Stealing J-Ws money and property - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Money went into trust awaiting J-Ws arrival in Israel.

    J-W propaganda:
    - Lamp shades made from J-W skin - PROVEN LIES
    Truth -
    Camp rumors to scare new internees

    J-W propaganda:
    - J-W Soap rendered from J-W fat - PROVEN LIES
    Truth -
    Camp rumors to scare new internees

    J-W propaganda:
    - Shrunken J-W heads - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Camp rumors to scare new internees

    J-W propaganda:
    - J-W Electrocution Conveyors - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Camp rumors to scare new internees

    J-W propaganda:
    - Gassing J-Ws - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - US Crimes Diision Forensic Dr Charles Larson tested thousands of bodies, NO Signs of Gassed J-Ws.
    Truth - UK Dr Gordon, found no gassed J-Ws at any Nazi camp.
    Truth - Veinna Miltary Police NO Gassed J-Ws, Issued warning spreading lies about to be brought a court.

    J-W propaganda:
    - Massive J-W Murders - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - NO mass graves can be found.

    J-W propaganda:
    - Sick J-Ws Killed - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - the sick were taken to the Hospital
    Truth - the weak were not killed, they were assigned duties they could handle.

    J-W propaganda:
    - J-W Children Killed - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Children were alive and well taken care of.

    J-W propaganda:
    - Final Solution = Death/Genocide - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Hitlers Havaara Agreement was to Deport J-Ws
    Truth - Zionist J-W Gerhart Riegner secretary of the World Jewish Congress Admits the Final SOlution was to DEPORT J-Ws.
    Truth - Zionist J-W Gerhart Riegner secretary of the World Jewish Congress Admits the Final Solution was to DEPORT the J-Ws NOT harm, NOT murder, NOT kill NOT EXTERMINATE, by any means what so ever.
    Truth - Camp records recorded deporations

    J-W propaganda:
    - Hitler was a Psychopathic War Monger - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Hitler made Unconditional Peace offer '#1' May 17, 1933
    Truth - UK, US, France, Poland, all Allies ignored it without response.

    J-W propaganda:
    - Hitler was a Psychopathic War Monger - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Hitler made Unconditional Peace offer '#2' December 18, 1933
    Truth - UK, US, France, Poland, all Allies ignored it without response.

    J-W propaganda:
    - Hitler was a Psychopathic War Monger - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Hitler made Unconditional Peace offer '#3' May 21, 1935
    Truth - - UK, US, France, Poland, all Allies ignored it without response.

    J-W propaganda:
    - Hitler was a Psychopathic War Monger - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Hitler made Unconditional Peace offer '#4' March 31, 1936
    Truth - UK, US, France, Poland, all Allies ignored it without response.

    J-W propaganda:
    - Hitler was a Psychopathic War Monger - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Hitler made Unconditional Peace offer '#5' September 30, 1938
    Truth - UK, US, France, Poland, all Allies ignored it without response.

    J-W propaganda:
    - Hitler was a Psychopathic War Monger - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Hitler made Unconditional Peace offer '#6' December 6, 1938
    Truth - UK, US, France, Poland, all Allies ignored it without response.

    J-W propaganda:
    - Hitler was a Psychopathic War Monger - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Hitler made Unconditional Peace offer '#7' 1939 to Poland to settle the Danzig Corridor issue peacefully
    Truth - UK, US, France, Poland, all Allies ignored it without response.

    J-W propaganda:
    - Nazi Death Camps - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Work, Labor and Transit Camps

    J-W propaganda:
    - J-Ws Steamed to death - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Prisoners had the luxury of hot showers

    J-W propaganda:
    - J-Ws Could tell who was being gassed by color of smoke - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Crematoria's do not emit any smoke

    J-W propaganda:
    - J-Ws - Finger nail marks in cement - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Its impossible for finger nails to gouge cement

    J-W propaganda:
    - 6 MILLION J-Ws MURDERED IN GAS CHAMBERS - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Mathematically and Logistically Impossible
    Truth - 3,500,000 (3.5 Million) J-Ws applied for reparations money.
    Truth - Auschwitz 4 Million Death toll Officially reduced to 1 Million.
    Truth - Total Prisoners Through Auschwitz was 373,000, Truth - Official revisions report 600,000 more dead than were at the facility..

    J-W propaganda:
    - Hitler Started the War - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - J-Ws Declared War on Germany and Started the War
    Truth - Poles Slaughtered over 50,000 German Civilians
    Truth - Churchill Dropped the first bombs
    Truth - Poles Slaughtered over 50,000 German Civilians

    J-W propaganda:
    - Indiscrimate Bombing Civilians First - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Churchhill was the first Target Civilians
    America Followed lock step

    J-W propaganda:
    - Children went straight to the Gas Chambers - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Day Care facilities provided for children.

    J-W propaganda:
    - J-Ws Victims of Nazi Conducted Holocaust Ritual - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Germans are the Human sacrificial victims of the ritual 'Holocaust' offering performed by the J-Ws to appease their G-D for sin. See Dresden et al

    J-W propaganda:
    - German Camps Were 'Death' Camps - PROVEN LIES
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Musicals,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Their own money,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Were --- Paid to work for the Germans,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Were --- Not slaves, Neither did they perform slave labor,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Horse Grooming,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Swimming Pools,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Soccer Games,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Cigarettes,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Movies,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Plays,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Theater,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Concerts,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Weekend passes to events at other Camps,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Post Cards etc to write to loved ones,
    Truth - J-Ws Enjoyed Their own on camp whore house,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Violin Quartets 'played in the barracks',

    Truth - J-Ws Enjoyed BEER SERVED AT THE CANTINA, at Auschwitz!

    Truth - J-Ws Enjoyed BEER SERVED AT THE CANTINA, at Auschwitz!

    Truth - J-Ws Enjoyed BEER SERVED AT THE CANTINA, at Auschwitz!


    [​IMG]
    Jews as distinguished from Marxi-Commie-Zionist J-W Liars testified that they were even able to buy BEER at the cantina at auschwitz! WTF?? :eekeyes::eekeyes::eekeyes::eekeyes::eekeyes:

    Who the hell ever heard of prisoners of war being served BEER?

    'Death' Camps Seriously? F*cking Seriously??


    If thats a death camp we have plenty of homeless people on the streets here in the US that would kiss your asses to have it that good!!!!

    Since when does a 'DEATH' camp serve BEER to those who were ready to be gassed the second they walked in the gate?

    Marxi-Zio-Commie J-Ws please feel free to post any MATERIAL evidence you wish to refute the PROVEN LIES IMPOSED upon the world By the Marxi-Zio-Commie J-Ws.


    I have asked you several questions to give you the opportunity to convince people the J-W as victim holocaust is true, and not only have you failed to rebut any of the points made, you failed to provide any reasonable response what so ever, worse pretended all those proven lies were ever posted.

    Seriously explain why you would expect anyone to believe the hc is true considering all the nothing you have posted for citations? Elie the weasel thinks anything he claims is true even when its false, whats up with that?


    J-W: "I KNOW BUT IN MY IMAGINATION IT WAS TRUE"

    Narrator: But thats not the truth.


    We realize that the J-W as victim HC is true in your imagination too.

    Narrator: But thats not the truth.
     
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    I think that the most accurate answer to the 5 questions you asked is:

    Some Jews were and some Jews were not.

    Jews who were active Bolsheviks/Communists, Jewish resistance fighters or those who showed support for the boycotting of Germany were far more likely to face persecution than the Jews who were Nazi Party members(1) or members of Hitler's military(2).

    Just as America interred Japanese-Americans in camps because they were perceived as threats to US security, I feel that the Germans felt the same way about many German Jews after "Judea" (aka world Jewry) declared war on Germany(3). Additionally, at one point, Jews comprised 52% of the Bolshevik/ Communist Party membership(4) and were also considered a threat to Germany for that reason.

    Nothing justifies the persecution of innocent people and I don't doubt that many Jews faced persecution simply because they were Jewish, however Germany's work camps were not only for the incarceration of political prisoners but also for Germany's murderers, thieves, pedophiles and other genuine criminals.

    Finally, I know that this thread is "About the Holocaust" but I simply feel that that the holocaust is without a doubt, the most crassly exploited and over commercialized conspiracy theory in modern history because of the overwhelming influence of the Holocaust Industry & its complicit MSM. No wonder so many people quietly suffer from Holocaust Fatigue as Hollywood continues to demonize Germany & the German people with the same tiresome, one dimensional and fictional holocaust stories over and over.

    We hear the word "inclusive" thrown about very frequently these days and I feel that today's students would be much better served by a more inclusive and objective study of history's innumerable man made tragic persecutions.





    (1) "List of Nazis of non-Germanic descent"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazis_of_non-Germanic_descent

    EXCERPT "Notably, there were several high-ranking Nazis of partial Jewish descent."CONTINUED


    (2) “Hitler’s Jewish Army”
    http://counterpsyops.com/2013/02/14/...-hitlers-army/

    EXCERPT “Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called ‘full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf Hitler’s knowledge and approval.

    In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded(*)Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s Cross.

    Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police(Ordnungdienst)(*)and concentration camp guards(*)(kapos).

    So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?

    “If the Jews were permitted to serve in Hitler’s armed forces then there could not have been a Holocaust.”CONTINUED


    (3) "Jews Declare War on Germany 1933"
    https://archive.org/stream/JewsDeclareWarOnGermany1933/JewsDeclareWarOnGermany1933_djvu.txt

    EXCERPT "Judea Declares War on Germany!" - Daily Express headline, March 24, 1933.

    "Judea Declares War on Germany! Jews of all the World Unite! Boycott of German Goods!

    Mass Demonstrations!" - These were all headlines in the Daily Express on March 24, 1933.

    "The Israeli people around the world declare economic and financial war against Germany.

    Fourteen million Jews stand together as one man, to declare war against Germany. The Jewish

    wholesaler will forsake his firm, the banker his stock exchange, the merchant his commerce and

    the pauper his pitiful shed in order to join together in a holy war against Hitler's people." - Daily

    Express, March 24, 1933."CONTINUED



    (4) "Full text of "The Wolf Of The Kremlin biography of Kaganovich"
    https://archive.org/stream/TheWolfOfTheKremlin/The+Wolf+of+the+Kremlin_djvu.txt

    EXCERPT “That Trotsky, unquestionably the most outstanding man among the

    Bolsheviks, was a Jew did not seem an insuperable obstacle in a party”

    in which the percentage of Jews, 52 percent, was rather high compared

    to the percentage of Jews (1.8 percent) in the total population.” CONTINUED
     
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    I will do this for each question Grau since there is so much information, starting with the Yellow Star

    After the German invasion of Poland in 1939 there were initially different local decrees requiring Jews to wear a distinctive sign under the General Government. The sign was a white armband with a blue Star of David on it; in the Warthegau a yellow badge in the form of a Star of David on the left side of the breast and on the back.[19] The requirement to wear the Star of David with the word Jude (German for Jew) – inscribed in letters meant to resemble Hebrew writing – was then extended to all Jews over the age of six in the Reich and the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia (by a decree issued on September 1, 1941, signed by Reinhard Heydrich)[20][21] and was gradually introduced in other German-occupied areas, where local words were used (e.g., Juif in French, Jood in Dutch).

    One observer reported that the star increased German non-Nazi sympathy for Jews as the impoverished citizens who wore them were, contrary to Nazi propaganda, obviously not the cause of German failure in the east. In the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia, government had to ban hat tipping toward Jews and other courtesies that became popular as protests against the German occupation. A whispering campaign that claimed that the action was in response to the United States government requiring German Americans to wear swastikas was unsuccessful.[22]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_badge

    Are we agreed that this is true?
     

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