Activists Protest ‘Conversion Therapy’ Conference In San Diego

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  1. Aphotic

    Aphotic Banned

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    Sexuality isn't a choice really at all.
     
  2. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    If you have been studying something for 30 years you'd likely have something to show for it.

    Present it. If not your claims are dismissed without evidence because they were made without evidence.

    Basically put, I don't believe you.
     
  3. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Sexual orientation isn't a choice in any sense.
     
  4. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    This poster makes claims without evidence. I've been going round and round with her for over a month.

    She has nothing.
    Prove it.
     
  5. Aphotic

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    Lol. Sexuality isn't a choice or you could choose to be gay.

    Go on. Indulge me.
     
  6. dixon76710

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    Explained, complete with an example. Heres another one for our slower members. Asked my oral surgeon, why back in the 90s oral surgeons wouldn't even place dental implants in a patient until they quit smoking. But I just had implants and he never even mentioned my smoking. He said because it less than 2% difference. Don't recall the actual #s but lets say 3% of non smokers have issues with implants but 5% of smokers do. Sooooo does smoking determine the success or failure of dental implants OR does it merely have an influence upon the success or failure?
     
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    Did you read the part about "conversion therapy " being condemned by most scientists?
     
  8. dixon76710

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    I never said sexuality is a choice and speculate that most are born with a biology that compels an overwhelming attraction to the opposite sex which also tends to prohibit developing an attraction to the same sex. Those who are not born with such biology, may or may not develop an attraction to the same sex. I suspect, with or without the biology that compels an attraction to the opposite sex, physical intimacy with another human being is still desirable.
     
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    Science rightfully condemns certain methods of conversion therapy. Condemning any therapy that seeks to alter sexual orientation, regardless of the methods is a political statement having nothing to do with science.
     
  10. dixon76710

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    Contrary to the BS spewed by the courts recently. Marriage wasn't limited to men and women throughout human civilization with the intent of "harassment or bullying to coerce or exclude" homosexuals. Men and women aren't segregated in bathrooms according to genitals with the intent of "harassment or bullying to coerce or exclude" the transgendered.
     
  11. Polydectes

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    I didn't make the claim that it was a choice.
     
  12. Polydectes

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    No clue what you're talking about
     
  13. dixon76710

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    Obviously.
     
  14. Polydectes

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    That's your problem not mine.
     
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    ???? No, your inability to comprehend is totally your problem
     
  16. cd8ed

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    Or it could be your problem for failing to make a rational point...
     
  17. Polydectes

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    your inability to communicate is not my inability to comprehend.
     
  18. dixon76710

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    Well, I assume you at least were able to comprehend my point in order to determine that it was not rational. Poly cant even begin to comprehend it. Care to be more specific as to why it isn't rational?
     
  19. Polydectes

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    There is no need to be uncivil. The only reason you would become so disagreeable is because what i said was true
     
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    So then once heterosexual always heterosexual?
     
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    If the church does not forcibly make people go thru such counselling what's the problem?

    Most protesters, regardless of what for, are just troublemakers who engage in mob mentality.
     
  22. Polydectes

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    no it certainly doesn't. I think the problem people have with it is that parents of gay children or even children questioning their sexuality will force their children into it.

    That's a gray area for me. We shouldn't be able to interfere with a parent and a child's relationship. Unless of course it is abusive. The Bone of contention here should be whether or not it's abusive.

    I think somewhere in the seventies people forgot what protesting ment. It all the sudden morphed into things people don't like you doing and they want you to stop it. Versus spreading information to people who formerly had not had that information available.

    I don't understand why it has to be angry. It really should be about spreading information or different ideas.

    Seems like our culture has lost that.
     
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    Correct
     
  24. dixon76710

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    Your the one who said you didn't understand.
     
  25. Polydectes

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    What's uncivil about that?
     

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