Admit it, Republicans, aren't you, deep down inside, kinda GLAD Trump is gone?

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The country was headed in the right direction with the exception of environmental policy, tax policy, immigration policy, healthcare policy, gun control policy, foreign affairs, divisiveness, faith in government, faith in elections, relations with allies, trade policies, etc.
     
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    That is certainly one way to look at it. Not my way, though.
     
  3. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Policy differences aside, wasn't what happened on Jan. 6 a disqualifier for you saying we were headed in the right direction?
     
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    Nope, I'd have preferred President Trump for another four years over Xiden and that thing that slept and sucked its way to power.
     
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  5. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'll remember that next time big brother forces a vaginal probe on a woman without hers or her doctor's consent
     
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  6. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Not really.

    Every time Trump opened his mouth, something stupid came out.

    Mindbogglingly stupid, and embarrassing for the nation, like all the time.

    The rest of them, occasional gaffs as much as anyone else, and your characterizations are false and misleading.

    Trump is evil.

    If lies bother you, you must hate Donald Trump.

    Trump gave us an America that in shambles, many on his team have covid, people are at each other's throats, hate crimes are up, farmers markets have been destroyed, allies look upon us in pity, the country is far more divided than it has ever been, deficits are careening to hitherto unseen heights, and Trump is worried about being prosecuted as the SDNY is hot on his trail. I recall Trump declaring that 'The American dream is dead'. Yeah, he killed it.

    The Bloviating Blowhard's Bullshit Brigade Bombs in a Blizzard of Bluster, just as it began. The world celebrates. Good riddance.
     
  7. ChiCowboy

    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    But Mars attacks!


    Gack gack. Gack gack gack. Gack.
     
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  8. Bluesguy

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    In exchange for Biden? No. Personally I can't stand the guy but that's not the basis of my vote, I vote for policy and we are going to miss those policies. I didn't watch his rallies, including the one in DC, never read his Tweets. Which is more important to you and don't give me the RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA baloney or he's a criminal BS. Policy or personality?
     
  9. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    Did he drain it? No. Did he expose it? Yes.

    For several years I've belonged to a closed Facebook group of basically what you would describe as Wall Street Republicans. In 2016 they were very skeptical towards Trump, "this guy isn't serious, he's not a real conservative, he's a plant by his friend Hillary to sabotage the GOP primaries..." These were typical comments there, although a slim majority of this group eventually ended up voting for Trump, under duress since a Hillary presidency seemed inconceivable.

    Immediately after the election, your guys, the establishment, progressives, Democrats, whatever you want to call yourselves, went crazy. It was conspiracy after conspiracy; fake news altered the election, the Russians in league with their lackie Trump, fixed the American election...and on and on. It was four years plus of insane conspiracy theory and nonsense, a Mueller Report that you guys thought was going to have Trump in chains, weekly breaking news based on anonymous stories that never panned out, an impeachment based on a lie of about a Trump phone call, and on and on and on.

    So now, that same Facebook group, those nice mainstream Republican types, don't believe anything the media says, they no longer assume that conservatives and liberals want the same things; they now assume the worst motives from the left, and regard the nation's institutions, but particularly the government ones, the FBI, the IC, and bureacrats in every agency as hopelessly corrupt.

    So I thank President Trump for the eyeopener. It will be a different GOP in the future.
     
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    When the messenger is such a dick, the message gets lost in the Drama.
    If Republicans had a more even keeled person delivering the message, they wouldn't have lost the House and Senate and
    the White House. You know that's true.
     
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    Yes...he “exposed” what everyone already knew about the swamp. Great job...hahaha
    My side? I don’t really have a side. Past two elections I voted third party. Before that I always voted Republican.
     
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  12. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    After all this time why do you feel the need to tell falsehoods, erroneously referring to them as conspiracies, regarding what was said about the 2016 election?
     
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    You didn't know that about the swamp. You've believed every headline, and every redacted intelligence report. You trust the FBI, the IC, and the bureaucrats. More to the point, the vast majority of Republicans, who believed in all of those institutions, no longer do. That will have an impact on the future, whether you think it's a haha moment or not.
     
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    Because they weren't true.

    Facts and truth matter. Maybe not to your side, but they do matter.
     
  15. Bluesguy

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    His policies didn't get lost with me and my retirement accounts and my pocket book and my safety and they sure helped the country including minorities and were far better than Biden's previous nor where he wants to take us. Yea Pence would have been even better at the top. And not going to play what if's especially when it is a President went through what he went through starting before he even took office by the vindictive opposition and Obama administration, the spying on, the attempts to falsely smear him with all the garbage in the Dossier, remember when you guys were so hyped because you thought you had him in the golden showers thing, REALLY. The phony Mueller investigation, the phony attacks on him for COVID, the bogus first impeachment, then this nonsense. I often wonder what it would have been like without all of that. And I remind you it was Pelosi who lost in the House this election, she didn't lose control but she lost 18 seats and has one of the slimmest of majorities, and the Dems were supposed to hit a homerun in the Senate and just barely BARELY hold it.
     
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  16. ECA

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    Huh? Govt has always been a swamp. Where the hell you been?
    What is your evidence I believe every headline???
     
  17. Patricio Da Silva

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    Your approach to the question is far too simplistic.

    If you had watched the mini series about Comey ("the Comey Rule"), who was played by Jeff Daniels, you could sense in his private reactions to Comey, that we, as a nation were about to enter a hellish phase, one could palpably glean that realization from his subtle, private reactions to Trump.

    Recently, the real Comey was interviewed on Dan Abram's radio show ( Sirius XM ) and was asked about Daniel's portrayal, and Comey zeroed on those private moments the actor Daniel's, playing Comey, how Daniel's conveyed the emotions and thoughts in his reaction to realizing what we were in for, with the new president, the feeling, expressed very subtley, the horror. There were a few moments of silence that were utterly pregnant with power.

    I don't think you comprehend the depth of horror that is Trump, as a human being, that he is not the kind of man you want representing America to the rest of the world, a man devoid of empathy, humility, devoid of qualities that make for better leaders. His instincts are all wrong, he chooses very poor talent, and those that are talented, he winds up firing, and keeping the sycophants. A man like that is not the kind of man we want as a nation.

    And, BTW, he is a criminal.
     
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    that's rich considering who Trump married, a woman solely for her looks who married him soley for his money.
     
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  19. Lil Mike

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    If you think the news media are a bunch of lying grifters, and that the FBI and IC is hopelessly corrupt, I'm sure you can point to ample threads to that effect.
     
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    What in gods name are you rambling about? You have no idea what I do or don’t believe. I mean sure...you can make foolish assumptions based on foolish sweeping generalizations about who you think I am. But that would be just...well....foolish.
    There is a reason I read news from both sides of a aisle. Because the truth is usually somewhere in the middle.
     
  21. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Apparently your view is not shared by many , over 71% feel we are headed in the wrong direction since Trump was elected.

    wrongdirection.jpg
     
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    Have been glad Trump is being let loose back into his private sector wheelhouse for some time. The damage he will do to the gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex Aristocracy is so much worse than he could have ever done in the WH surrounded by Complex snakes.
     
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  23. Lil Mike

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    You seem awfully angry. You stated that...

    Sorry, I just don't believe you think it's a swamp or corrupt. It would be fairly simple to demonstrate where you deviate from the establishment line and you couldn't do it. It's OK, frankly I don't care about your beliefs, but I don't buy you're some free thinker who makes up your own mind. I've seen no evidence that you've demonstrated any out of the box thinking.
     
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    You clearly haven’t been paying attention. I constantly call out BOTH sides. I can’t stand politicians from either side. Frankly I don’t understand how anyone can like any politician. I realize you wouldn’t understand since you have your head up Trumps backside.
    Oh, and I’ve stated this in the past, I don’t believe Trump colluded with Russia regarding the 2016 election. So there’s that.
     
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    suck it up buttercup

    trump is a loser
     
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