Ahmadinejad: We will destroy Israel soon

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  1. Jack Napier

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    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
     
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    Israel doesn't aggressively attack Palestinians. It defensively attacks those that attack her. You can't expect to be able to continuously fire rockets into Israel and for her to do nothing in return. Get real.
     
  3. Jack Napier

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    More tired arguements.

    Try something new.
     
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    Ahmed thinks the 13th imam will save him and his country so he doesn't fear retaliation from using his nuclear weapons once he has them. He wants to hasten the arrival of the 13th imam so yes I do believe he's going after nukes to nuke Israel.
     
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    I believe in sticking to the truth. Since I always stick to the truth my arguments don't change much.
     
  6. Jack Napier

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    How do you know what the truth is though?

    What do you base this 'truth' on?

    And what if you are mistaken?
     
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    Hmm. I wonder how the usual suspects will discredit/misdirect etc this one? The only way I can see for an attempt to corrupt the truth of the nut case president of Irans statement is to say he is only referencing eliminating Zionist Israelis, not the three percent of Israeli Jews that are Ultra Orthodox. Why doesn’t this worm come out and say what he means? That he loves Hitler and would like to exterminate the Jewish people as in genocide.


    *...“eight percent as ultra-Orthodox, and nine percent as religious. The ultra-Orthodox are mostly opposed to Zionism, but the other 92% of the Zionist state's population or 4.96 million are presumably Zionists.”

    reva
     
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    I am not Ronald, but If I were Israeli defense minister and had to use the terms of your reply, I would stop Iran’s nuclear program by any means necessary.

    reva
     
  9. Jack Napier

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    Utter BS.

    Seriously, all you do is spread lies.
     
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    Elders? You probably mean anti-Semitic conspiracy theorists, as most people in the US support Israel, and I doubt "elders" will differ from that trend.

    Besides, I bet most people form their political beliefs while they're young anyway, E.g. following their parent's/friend's political beliefs.

    I'm am also not as stupid as you think I am, I won an Einstein Memorial science Award for my enthusiasm in science in middle school (Ceder heights junior high, 2008-2009) and I am really strong in debates, like I can stump my dad and my grandparents on homosexual marriage and other people when I argue against the legalization of marijuana. I also have a policy of listening and being fair to everyone I come across, as well as holding logic as an ideal and admitting I'm wrong when I think I'm wrong. I am a smart person.

    The only legitimate criticism of my age is that my brain has a delayed response to my frontal lobe (responsible for decision making), this would mean fast decision making is weaker, like if I was suddenly offered a drug (I am anti-drug however). However I take my time on my beliefs, I (99% of the time) wait till every question is answered before deciding what my political beliefs are. Another legitimate criticism is my experience, which is the amount of knowledge I have on a subject. however I can still balance and weigh facts just like anyone else can, so this would make me weak to running into new information in arguments and debates. However when I do find new information I reconsider my beliefs.

    So Your suggestion of staying back and listening to people is completely stupid, I'm only going to find new information by jumping in and challenging people on their beliefs (me being right or wrong), not by watching random replies and arguments that are unlikely to be as specific as I need it to be to find new and good information on subjects.
     
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    That theory was debunked by the European press a decade ago. That you have to resort to such silly arguments is evident of the fact that you know you don;t have any ground to stand on.

    What do you think Ahmed believes really? That Iran will nuke Israel and just as Israel launch their nukes, the 13th Imam will come in and deflect all the nukes away from Iran? Wow. Brilliant theory.
     
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    And if I were a defense minister in any country in the ME, I would hasten to acquire nuclear weapons as fast as possible to level the playing field. We all know ISrael is the biggest rogue in the region. It could use its nuke at any time. The only possible deterrent that any of those countries could have is having a nuke of their own and thereby ensuring Israel does not use its nukes any time it so pleases and saving millions of lives in the process. That would be a worthy goal don;t you think?
     
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    The question of what is ‘truth’ has bugged great thinkers and lesser souls for thousands of years. Philosophers such as Anselm, Aquinas, and Socrates to the more modern theoreticians like Gödel and Einstein all fretted over ‘what is truth‘. The truth is (no pun intended) that all individuals use some kind of authority to establish what reality is. We have to depend on something to describe define reality and its cousin ‘truth‘. Absolute truth is in the eye of the beholder IMO.

    Some feel science is the best authority to describe truth others feel religion best describes truth. Neither can be proved not to be wrong or right if we get nit picky about it. I subscribe to religion, my belief that a creator exists, as my absolute authority, science is a distant second. I suspect God is amused as we rant and rave trying to describe the indescribable, and prove truth when real proof i.e. an accuracy of 100% sure of being correct, does not exist in this universe.

    To sum up, I being a theist feel God is the only truth that is 100% accurate and that is only in his own realm. Oh what if we thiests and beleivers are wrong? A better question might be what if atheists and non-beleivers are wrong?

    reva
     
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    No one cares if the state of Israel contains Jews, Christians, Muslims or anyone else. All that matters is the actions of the state. Israel ios the biggest rogue in the state and has waged war against all its neighbors at some time or the other and continues its reign of terror and oppression on a daily basis . AS such, the state of Israel must be stopped from committing further atrocities.
     
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    Ahhh’ ha! I should report you for being such a jerk, but alas I enjoy spanking you in debate like a new baby. Watching you eat crow after making stupid or ignorant statements is a bit coarse but entertainment nevertheless.

    Anyway, I thought well maybe I am the only person that feels as the Ahmadinejad hitler comparision was a good one so I googled it. Surprise! This is small sample of others that agree with me.

    Ahmadinejad - Hitler - Comparison Google search a few of zillions!

    Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:17:23 AM by PRePublic
    Olmert compares Ahmadinejad to Hitler - Israel News, Ynetnews Apr 29, 2006 ... News: In interview with German newspaper Bild, acting Prime Minister says Iranian president a 'psychopath of the worst kind... He speaks as Hitler did in his time of the extermination of the entire Jewish nation...http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3245121,00.html

    Peres Compares Ahmadinejad to Hitler - Free Market News Network, President Peres of Israel is comparing Ahmadinejad to Hitler and Stalin saying that world should not ignore fact that Iran is developing ...
    http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=50444
    Iran Focus - Senator compares Iran's Ahmadinejad to Hitler, Sep 19, 2006

    ... WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A U.S. senator compared Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to Hitler and made fun of his name on Tuesday during a ...
    http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=8695

    Mitt Romney likened Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to Adolf Hitler in a speech on Thursday to Jewish university ...
    http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/4/27/80931.shtml
    Italian PM compares Ahmadinejad to Hitler
    [September 22, 2008]

    Italy's Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi implicitely compared Iran’s President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to Adolf Hitler at an award ceremony in Paris.
    http://www.ejpress.org/article/news/30448
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    ..Even German Chancellor Angela Merkel has compared Ahmadinejad to the Nazis.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1054236/Iran-protest-

    Israeli-minister-says-Yes-ok-kidnap-Ahmadinejad.html
    Germany likens Ahmadinejad to Hitler, Feb 4, 2006 ... Munich: President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a rising Adolf Hitler with his stand on Iran's nuclear programme...
    http://archive.gulfnews.com/indepth/irancrisis/more_stories/10016391.html

    Merkel compares Iran's stance to rise of Hitler, Merkel compared Ahmadinejad’s statements and stance to Adolf Hitler’s rise to power when he and his Nazi party began threatening to exterminate European ...
    http://www.ejpress.org/article/news/5659
    Inquiry and Analysis - No. 277
    May 23, 2006 No. 277

    Arab Media Reactions to Iran's Nuclear Project...
    President Ahmadinejad was described as a new Hitler threatening to unleash catastrophe upon the world.
    http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Area=ia&ID=IA27706&Page=archives



    BTW, do you think you could actually give a reason you made that insult? If you really feel it was accurate you have an obligation to post some evidence that will support your middle school like, one liner.

    reva
     
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    If Israel was really the rouge that is claimed by the usual suspects why haven’t they used their nukes? It would have made short work of their Arab problems during the war, IF they were as nutty as Iran’s government. Iran on is ruled by mixed nuts all religious all believing in their version of Armageddon. How would you like it if Pat Roberson was president of the USA and the 700 club was his cabinet? Iran is like that but Islamic instead of Christian! Yeah Ole pat with his finger on the button...scary eh?

    All that aside, militarily speaking I doubt that having a nuke or a hundred nukes would help Iran if the Israel and the west wanted to retaliate etc. I will agree that it’s problem, and if I were Iran I probably would want one too. So human nature being what it is Iran probably will get the bomb as well as other rIslamic led countries. As a species we all will suffer accordingly. I would predict that a nuke will be used in a terror attack soon after Iran or another Islamic theocracy gets the bomb, not to mention them being used in conventional war*. Well there is one good thing about the sick nuclear proliferation coming down the pike.

    Good thing? Kind of. I am developing Church (ABOTC) and mission (Mountain Manna) land to build fallout shelters and ‘bug out’ (NBC hardened) homes. I am sure there will be a resurgence of interest in such things even before the rIslamic dummies use nukes in a city near or on you. I was brought up when the nuclear scare was REAL. Hey your kids have something exciting to look forward to- National (then world) suicide by rIslamic nuke.

    Reva....how small can a nuke be? In the late 50's they were putting them in cannon~

    ATOMIC CANNON BATTLE FIELD NUKES COMING SOON TO YOUR HOME TOWN, THANKS TO YOU AHMADINEJAD ;

    [​IMG]
     
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    And pray tell, why would Jack need to forward to you a link, you obviously know so little, and this post just show your restrictions you've placed on yourself!

    But you have a nice day, and be good to your mother!

    Highlander
     
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    And pray tell, why would Jack need to forward to you a link, you obviously know so little, and this post just show your restrictions you've placed on yourself!

    But you have a nice day, and be good to your mother!

    Highlander
     
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    Is this even a proper question?

    Seriously.

    *shakes head*
     
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    ROFLMAO...did he really say this..



    'I thought well maybe I am the only person that feels as the Ahmadinejad hitler comparision was a good one so I googled it. Surprise! This is small sample of others that agree with me.'


    I don't have the patience for this.

    Do you want to explain to him how Google works?

    ;)
     
  21. RevAnarchist

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    Why would you comment about my dear mom? Been visiting my profile page eh? Anyway, I am a mommas boy. I figure that she has changed enough diapers, and other giving mother stuff including unconditional love that she will never see the inside of a nursing home. Pay it forward right? Her insurance does not cover home health care nurses so that is an out of pocket expense, still its better than a stinking nursing home eh? (I absolutely can not stand the smell of most under funded homes). However I can understand* but do not approve of people that warehouse mom or dad to die.

    Medical reasons is the about* the only excuse for warehousing parents and it better be severe medical conditions.

    * there are always exceptions.


    As for Jack having to provide evidence other than his opinion, sorry no one gets a free pass, not you not Jack and not me. Get used to it. On some forums its an infraction able offense if a member can not substantiate his opinion or assumption. Jack would have been banned the first week in those forums. Lol. Also I will add that true liars can not provide facts to buttress their false statements and fabrications. So if your or your real close buddy~ ha ha~ fits description (of troll and/or liar) so be it. I have already shown evidence to back my claim. Jack or you might attempt to providing a source for those questionable one liners and unsubstantiated claims might be a way to distance yourselves from such a title. Now if you two will cease and desist off topic trolling and slinging personal insults which forces me to defend myself, we can get on with productive debate.

    reva
     
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    Why don’t you attempt to answer first questions first and not ponder what is or isn’t ‘proper questions‘, lol. you are not here to debate the subject rather you insist on making off topic insult and are concerned with my personal life and nuances. Next you or highlander (your cheerleader) will ask what brand of underwear I have on!

    BTW, I will feed you one more time: There are no wrong questions only wrong answers.

    reva
     
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    I don't HAVE to answer anything you ask.

    Okay?

    Thanks
     
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    :shock:

    iran has a religious center, perhaps they have perfected a 'black hole', just rememeber i a tol ya...
     
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    people like you talk too much simply because you want to be liked.

    and it's backfired!

    all stupid talk.

    dont try and give us your BS on your reasoning about your choices. Your post ruin just about everything, and that above rendered such the prada approach

    jack is just another human being, that is pissed at finding out that what many have been led to believe is bull.


    he's a weee bit tough but just wait until hells angels find out (four horseman).

    Get used to it.

    i rather like the idea of false witness being a life or death proposition, at least until the taco stand is swept up and the rats are fed to the dogs
    so you are fabricating, right here as iff to witness an opinion, yet with what facts?

    and to another human being?!?!?

    I liken the concept that to wrongfully impose judgment, in witness, then if the 'false witness' is found in error, the complaintant, is imposed 2 fold.

    I would love to see you talk like you do in the inner city. You'd be the street punk!
     
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