Air caused the flag to move so it was obviously in a studio.

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  1. Poohbear

    Poohbear Well-Known Member Donor

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    We simply have no idea of the depth of conspiracies we face.
    What's the point in even having an education?
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    Were the Apollo Missions a propaganda stunt? The attached video is from Buzz Aldrin, listen to what he tells the little girl:


    And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
    Revelation 12:9

    The cloak and deception is falling and none can stop it . . .
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    Some may consider the lunar landings to be propaganda stunts but they did happen.

    The evidence is crushing and irrefutable that the deniers such as Scott are wrong.
     
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    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    This interview took place in 2015 and it is quite obvious he is answering her question.

    Why has nobody been back in such a long time?

    Is this truly the level you odd people have sunk to, that you deliberately take his comments out of context? The full interview consists of numerous references to the first Moon landing and Buzz's recollections.
     
  5. Scott

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    There is zero proof that they went and there's a ton of proof that they didn't go. Here's some of the proof that they didn't go.

    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=UUPX7KGp1cjY5HQqbjeoyC4Q
    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=MoonFaker
    http://www.aulis.com/stereoparallax.htm

    Almost all of the people who maintain that the Apollo missions were real also maintain that the Chinese spacewalk* was real so they have no credibility.

    They've all said that the fluttering of the flag here at the thirty second mark wasn't caused by water...

    Chinese Space Walk - 2008



    ...so they have no credibility. Can all of you pro-Apollo people tell us right now what you think made the flag flutter in the above video? This is an objectivity test.


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    https://forum.cosmoquest.org/showthread.php?169361-The-Chinese-spacewalk-was-faked-in-a-water-tank
     
  6. Poohbear

    Poohbear Well-Known Member Donor

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    Let's face it. It was understood as far back as the 19th Century that it is impossible to reach orbit.
    Furthermore no rocket could move in space because there is nothing to "push" against.
    The bigger the rocket, the more fuel you need to move it. And you can't go faster than sound in
    any case. It's all in the math. You can't argue with math.

    Quote "After the rocket quits our air and really starts on its longer journey, its flight would be neither accelerated nor maintained by the explosion of the charges it then might have left." January 13, 1920, the 'New YorkTimes' editorial

    Quote "That Professor Goddard with his 'chair' in Clark College and the countenancing of the Smithsonian Institution does not know the relation of action to reaction, and of the need to have something better than a vacuum against which to react--to say that would be absurd. Of course, he only seems to lack the knowledge ladled out daily in high schools." 1921 New York Times editorial about Robert Goddard's revolutionary rocket work.

    Quote "To place a man in a multi-stage rocket and project him into the controlling gravitational field of the moon where the passengers can make scientific observations, perhaps land alive, and then return to earth—all that constitutes a wild dream worthy of Jules Verne. I am bold enough to say that such a man-made voyage will never occur regardless of all future advances.
    " Lee De Forest, American radio pioneer and inventor of the vacuum tube, in 1957.

    So these conspiracy guys have got it all wrong. They believe we went to orbit but not the moon. In fact no man has been in space. In fact, no vehicle of any kind has ever made it into orbit. Any footage of the space station, satellite or cute robots trundling around on Mars are all done in a Hollywood back lot.
     
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    Here's a message to you from Jarrah White.

    Jarrah White: "Go away, Flat Earthers & Space Travel Deniers!"
     
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    Poohbear Well-Known Member Donor

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    No Youtuber is going to trump basic maths.
    Read about Plato's cave. All reality is just a Hollywood back lot.

    Do you REALLY believe there was a WWII, a Nazi party or the holocaust?
    Or that this "Hitler" figure declared war on America. As if.
    All these things were invented by the Americans to justify their invasion and
    occupation of Europe. It's no co-incidence that the Hollywood back lots were
    in full swing during this period.
     
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    You seem to be here to try to muddy the waters and associate hoax-believers with wacky theories to discredit them.

    Here are my thoughts on WW2 if this will help clear things up. Pay special attention to the fifth hot link.

    (post #12)
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ers-holocaust-deniers.474495/#post-1066621612
     
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    I don't care if you consider me "wacky" for being a Nazi denier. But a nation
    that can conscript half a million people to fake a moon landing can and will
    do anything with the same technology to expand its power. And the Nazi
    story is used to explain why America now controls Europe. As far as I am
    concerned holocaust-deniers themselves are a part of this Nazi rubbish.
    There were no Nazis who declared war on America and put rockets into
    space - just as there was no moon landing, or satellites, space shuttles or
    "International Space Station."
    It's all done with smoke and mirrors - and some Hollywood back lots.
     
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    Who was the famous producer who on his death bed he is who staged and filmed the fake moon landing?
     
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    There is massive overwhelming proof that they went there which crushes your claim.

    There is no evidence that they faked it as all of your links have been debunked and shredded by evidence. This evidence has been posted and placed in front of you and simply willfully ignore it because you lack the maturity to admit when you are wrong.

    The flag fluttered because of inertia from the chinese astronaut moving the little staff. Any third grader can see that clearly and any child know there was no water in the video.

    All of your evidence has been SHATTERED and OBLITERATED and proven to be false.

    You have been pwned and it was too easy.
     
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    No one.

    That rumor was about Stanley Kubrick but he made no such confession.
     
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    Except you are wrong and the evidence proves that we did no such thing.

    We really did go to the moon that is irrefutable fact.
     
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    It was never understood as you claim. They made the claim and were wrong.

    We have been to space and to orbit and to the moon and we can easily fly faster than sound.

    you can present no evidence to the contrary
     
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    The earth is flat my friend. It's all been covered up.
    If 500,000 Americans can engage in a conspiracy like the Apollo program, right down to the
    mighty Saturn V, and fool even the Russians who monitored every bit of the program - then
    how much more has been faked?
    And... how far back did the fakery go? Gemini? Mercury? The German V2? Robert Goddard?
    Maybe even Isaac Newton?
     
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    That many people cannot engage in such a conspiracy and they did not.

    The earth is not flat. That can be proven, You cannot prove it is flat.
     
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    Well, your credibility is shot.

    Real Apollo hoax-believers don't think the earth is flat. Some public-relatioins agency thought up the idea of comparing hoax-believers with flat-earthers in order to discredit the hoax-believers. I dealt with this in post #149.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...sly-in-a-studio.362999/page-8#post-1069309688
     
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    No i is not shot.

    Yours was destroyed long ago.

    My answer is accurate and you cannot refute it.

    Real Apollo hoaxers are JUST as stupid as flat earthers. The evidence is crushing and overwhelming proving you wrong.

    You never dealt with it. You can name no such public relations agency because your excuse is a false one.
     
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    The earth is flat my friend. Recall Apollo 8? As you know, no astronaut ever went to the moon (you know, Van Allen radiation belts etc..) so from whence cometh those gorgeous photos of the earth from the moon? They were done in a Hollywood back lot. They used a sphere hung down from a wire. But there's the problem - the fakers were fooled themselves because the earth isn't a sphere, it is a disk. There is no honor amongst conspiracy makers.
     
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    On the Moon, where there is no air, temperature differences between the light part of a flag and the dark parts can be as great as several hundred degrees, and that difference of energy can cause the flag to move in response.
     
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    In response to what? Go into some more detail. Tell us exactly what the force was that made the flag move in a manner that's totally consistent with the atmosphere explanation.

    Here are some videos that aren't on that list.

    Initial Apollo 15 Flag Movement


    Moonfaker: LRO, Flag or no Flag?


    Physics of the Moon Flag - part 2



    The flag is not the only proof of a hoax. There's a lot more.
    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=UUPX7KGp1cjY5HQqbjeoyC4Q
     
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    They have something called gravity on the moon.
     
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    The whole hoax thing does major disrespect to the 12 men who risked their lives to go there, and ignores the impact that trip had on several of them as individuals--affecting their whole future lives.
     
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    These idiots dwell on inventing conspiracies, for everything from 9/11 to sandy Hook.
    And a certain percentage of people just suck it up.
    Generally losers, pissed off at the system, blaming it for their own failures.
     

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