Alabama’s Draconian Abortion Ban Has Women On Twitter Ready To Fight

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Women tell the government to get out of their uteruses, but that's EXACTLY where they want the government to be by having the government ensure that abortion remains legal and having it included in the government's health care system! :roflol:
     
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    This above is logical fallacy. Your inferred claim that a living human exists through all stages of pregnancy has not been proven to be true yet you speak as if this is fact - when it is not.

    One of the main arguments in the abortion debate is about when a living human - "personhood" exists.

    To come on to the stage and simply claim - "a living human exists" is not an argument for anything.
     
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  3. AKS

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    I define decency as having the core the belief that every living human has the right to life and that no person can elect to end the life of another.
    * except in the case of medical emergency / complication and rape. Save the vegetable, non-viable fetus, and victim BS.

    I actually feel kind of sorry for you. Decent people aren't imaginary. At least not yet...
     
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    Extremists claim that a person appears instantaneously at conception; their mirror opposites claim that does not occur until the end of term.

    Most folks recognize that development occurs during gestation, and that the point of viability is the determinant.
     
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    In a perfect world ... this ain't a perfect world. Pregnant women get fired, their husbands walk out on them, they have complications of pregnancy, they get scared, they have mental issues ... you live in a fake perfect world - and YOU will NEVER, EVER face the uncertainties of pregnancy. EVER. You have ZERO skin in this game.
     
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    So you are going to ENFORCE the use of CONTRACEPTIVE on all 13 year olds as soon as they begin menstruation so they can't get pregnant if they are raped or abused?

    Are you aware that contraception is not infallible?

    Obviously not!
     
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    Yes, there's good arguments that can be made.
    And then the law has to adopt those good arguments. As of now, a fetus has the rights that the mother affords them. And that is not such a terrible law.
     
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    You ARE being disingenuous because I've explicitly told you that rape and medical complications are 2 scenarios in which I would support abortion at any stage of pregnancy.
     
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    Sadly, in most cases he does not.

    He fertilized the egg, she must carry it.

    The sooner males come to grips with reality the better things will get.
     
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    He lives in a fantasy world where every uterus is perfect, every mom is June Cleaver, and rainbows grow out our butts.
     
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    DUH YES.It is the government's JOB to protect our rights......not monitor/control reproductive tracts...FFS, don't you know the difference?

    And if you respond with a question instead of a brave solid statement I won't reply
     
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    Pretty dumb isn't it?
    If the person you want to have interviewed had been aborted, that interview would not be taking place. And that person who was never born would never know anything ever happened.
     
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    Obviously you do not understand that a FETUS does NOT meet the definition that you just provided!

    A fetus is UNABLE to live outside of the uterus during the first two trimesters therefore it is NOT a "living" entity in it's own right.

    Furthermore it is INDECENT to ENSLAVE women and FORCE them to bear UNWANTED children.

    But only your arrogant "definition of decency" matters to those who lack empathy for the plight of those who cannot afford to raise an UNWANTED child.
     
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    Acknowledging the inherent decency in people is a predisposition that respects Americans' right to make decisions for themselves (in consultation with medical and spiritual advisers, trusted friends, and family as they choose.)

    Some deny that decency, and insist the State must impersonally impose such personal decisions upon them.

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    THE SELF-APPOINTED WOMBMASTERS OF ALABAMA
     
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    Not living in a "perfect world" does not absolve you of your responsibilities as an adult. Life is not fair sometimes and is hard often, this isn't something limited to women though.
     
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    :applause:

    Unfortunately he is not alone in that fantasy!
     
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    Are you going to keep bringing up rape despite the fact that not. a. single. person. has argued against abortion in that scenario?
     
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    Straw man noted. Strike 2.
     
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    The problem with this Georgia law is that there are no "good" arguments being made at all.
     
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    The Georgia law argues against abortion in the case of rape - law supported by a whole bunch of people.
     
  21. Daniel Light

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    In the case of pregnancy - IT IS limited to women. Period. And you think you have the right to FORCE them to YOUR rationalizations. And YOU will NEVER, EVER be forced to share the life altering impact of YOUR decision. YOU are the proverbial back-seat driver - and you're not even in the car.
     
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    A 13 year old impregnated by her father is NOT an adult!

    Where does your "human decency" stand in that instance?
     
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    Maybe you can refer to the post here where someone has stated that a rape victim should be forced to carry a baby to term? No? Then WTF man?
     
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    Ah back to rape. I guess you lose the argument.
     
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    Are you going to keep deflecting because you cannot defend your absurd contraceptive nonsense?
     

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