Alabama’s Draconian Abortion Ban Has Women On Twitter Ready To Fight

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  1. Robert E Allen

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    You're joking human beings don't have significant brain activity until about age 45.
     
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    No but i would.
     
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    TELL that to Alabama legislators and other Anti-Choiers who seem to think women are too stupid to make their own decisions !



    WTF does the governor being female have to do with it? She will follow party lines IF she wants her job.
     
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    Leftist opinion does not make fact.

    A mans sperm is human genetic material a woman's egg is human genetic material.
    When they meet and like eachother they combine to msje something that has no choice but to be human.

    We are arguing about when the human life begins. We disagree on when that it.
    There is nothing scientific to say on the issue solid arguments can be made for conception, first heart beat or whatever measure you want. None of them hsve any more merit than any other. Since we are approaching this as a moral issue science has no standing in the debate anyway. Because science does not determine morality.
    Anyway you are taking your opinion as fact and calling people who disagree stupid.. a common failing among leftists and yes itvis a failing.
     
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    Nope, REA, by the law. Your definition is arbitrary and non-binding.
     
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    correction, both sides have nefarious politicians on most issues ;)...
    this subject shouldn't be a partisan one, canada has it correct...

    sadly, this country is collapsing upon itself by way of career politicians tossing any sh*t out there to gain votes. we are closing in on an era of 'politicians vs americans'
     
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    Legislating theist morality NEVER ends well as PROVEN by Prohibition, the FAILED war on drugs, DOMA and now this VIOLATION of women's Constitutional Rights.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    When, and IF, righties ever have proof of their statements, lefties will not call them stupid.....or when they quit saying stupid things...

    No, but facts do.

    And you haven't presented any.



    FACT: Life began thousands of years ago.




    And morality does not determine science...or law. Morality varies from person to person and YOUR morality doesn't rule others...nor should it.



    Righties have bigger failings...no facts, no good argument as to why they want to take away women's right to their own bodies....( none they will admit to ;) )
     
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    If women's right to their own body is taken away, as Alabama and other ignorant righty states have done, then the next step for Repubs is to say, ""Well, women don't have a right to their own bodies so why should they vote? Too many of them vote Democrat so let's stop that, too!!!"


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    Funny how those that HATE women's Constitutional Rights have to post such outrageous FACTLESS canards!
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    When, and IF, righties ever have proof of their statements, lefties will not call them stupid.....or when they quit saying stupid things...



    No, but facts do.

    And you haven't presented any.

    FACT: Life began thousands of years ago.

    And morality does not determine science...or law. Morality varies from person to person and YOUR morality doesn't rule others...nor should it.

    Righties have bigger failings...no facts, no good argument as to why they want to take away women's right to their own bodies....( none they will admit to ;) )





    Funny how, IF you had facts on YOUR side you wouldn't need the flamebaiting insults :)

    But you don't so you had to bring out a tired old insult as if it means something...


    You have so little facts you couldn't address or refute one word of my post...

    OK, that was your cue to claim ,"they weren't worth my time" or "I don't address such nonsense" or whatever the EXCUSE of the day is....:)
     
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    What about the baby's constitutional right?
     
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    Babies have all the Constitutional rights of everyone else.
    A fetus has no rights.
     
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    I am not insulting anyone. It is a fact that unborn baby and fetus are synonymous. They are the same exact thing. It is also a fact that that baby is human. These are unassailable facts. Abortion is the killing of that human unborn baby. Another unassailable fact. Killing a human for convenience is the definition of murder.
    Therefore as a matter of fact abortion is murder.

    If you are offended by the fact your problem is with reality not with me.
    The only reason abortion is legal is because is because the left has been disingenuous about the reality of what is taking place.
     
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    All BORN babies have Constitutional rights at BIRTH!

    A FETUS only has whatever rights the woman carrying it is willing to grant it.

    HER CHOICE, not yours!
     
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    Fetus and baby are the same thing.
     
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    Semantic quibbling on your part does not alter the Law of the Land!

    UNBORN means NO RIGHTS!

    Try reading the 14th Amendment.
     
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    Not as far as the Law of the Land is concerned!
     
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    I would challenge this claim - as good arguments can be made for personhood in the later stages of pregnancy - once sentience (significant brain function) has been achieved.

    That said - there are no good arguments that can be made for personhood at conception - and there certainly have been none put forward for personhood at 6 weeks - which is one of the big problems with this legislation.
     
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    Fetus baby same thing

    Umm in New York it's legal to kill babies at birth.
    It's not a woman's choice to kill her baby.
     
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    It's the law in Alabama.
     
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    Humanity = personhood
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    When, and IF, righties ever have proof of their statements, lefties will not call them stupid.....or when they quit saying stupid things...



    No, but facts do.

    And you haven't presented any.

    FACT: Life began thousands of years ago.

    And morality does not determine science...or law. Morality varies from person to person and YOUR morality doesn't rule others...nor should it.

    Righties have bigger failings...no facts, no good argument as to why they want to take away women's right to their own bodies....( none they will admit to ;) )







    Funny how, IF you had facts on YOUR side you wouldn't need the flamebaiting insults :)

    But you don't so you had to bring out a tired old insult as if it means something...


    You have so little facts you couldn't address or refute one word of my post...

    OK, that was your cue to claim ,"they weren't worth my time" or "I don't address such nonsense" or whatever the EXCUSE of the day is....:)




    Yes, a fetus is an UNBORN baby...as it is an UNBORN teenager, an UNBORN adult...it is still a fetus.




    A human fetus is human AND NO ONE HAS SAID OTHERWISE.



    I haven't disputed that...of course that's what it is.


    No, it isn't.



    No, it isn't...no legal person is killed in abortion.



    No, they haven't....NO one has denied that abortion is killing a human fetus......so again, you have no facts.

    AND again, you couldn't address nor refute the posts of mine you quoted.
     
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    Which disreputable source provided you with that bovine excrement?
     
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    Wrong!

    Alabama is in VIOLATION of the Federal Constitution!
     
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