All schools shut down in Augusta County, Virginia, over Islam homework

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  1. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    Why should children be shielded from historical fact, however odious it might be? Are there still delicate sensibilities to be hurt by those kids 80 years after the event?
     
  2. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They can't call a Christmas tree a Christmas tree, and you have to ask? These are the very same people who fear the 10 Commandments on courtroom wall may have a proselytizing effect...
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Japanese were a different case. Remember these were people who thought their emperor was a god. Entire families killed themselves rather than be taken prisoner by US forces.

    The Japanese now of course are a much different people.
     
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    This really has nothing to do with politics, it's about common sense.
    Would I have shut the entire school system down, five years ago no, but in todays world, probably so.

    Here's the thing, if for some reason something terrible happened and they didn't shut the school down, the same people ridiculing them for shutting it down, would be ridiculing them for not!
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm still trying to figure out whats tiny about at least 350 million who support suicide bombing, terrorism, and destruction of western culture.
     
  6. FreedomSeeker

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    "All schools shut down in Augusta County, Virginia, over Islam homework".....ah religion, dividing people for 3000 years (and counting, apparently.)
     
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    Whoa there!! 350 MILLION!? No my friend, you are way way off!! Sam Harris, a credible source, says it's 20% of the Muslim world, so that's only 300 million (20% of 1.5 billion.) So get your facts straight!! You've off by a whopping 50 million!! So relax, bro, take a chill pill, since it's only a miserly 300 million Muslims who think this way....what could go wrong?

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    Yes, the "moderates" are IRRELEVANT. There could be a trillion more of them, say, and it wouldn't matter....the 1.2 billion "moderates" aren't the problem, it's the 300 million Jihad-sympathizers that are the problem.
     
  8. PARTIZAN1

    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    Yes you are correct the Japanese now are a much different people. They have a this glow about them. They shine brighter than before. That radiate energy. They are cast a better light. They thank us daily for transforming them from squinty glass eyed freaks into the makers of Toyotas Hondas and Stereo Equipment.

    It is amassing what a couple or two nuclear bombs will do for a people.
     
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    I must be a liberal then because yes, I hate the intellectual embarrassment that putting an unproven, illogical, genocidal, invisible super-friend on my money causes. We are better than having an invisible friend in the sky. We are better than that.

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    They also, largely, keep out the Muslims (google it), so should we emulate them in that way?

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    Gotta defend their voting base doncha know!

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    A fallacy? At least THEY appear to be at war with us.
     
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    That cite does not back your claims.

    Yes, there are a lot of Muslims who believe Sharia was divinely inspired and there are many who want at least portions of that to be the law of the land.

    That law is the best that exists in many of the countries polled. So, it should be no surprise that it is what they prefer. For example, they may prefer that to the repressive and arbitrary law of Syria under Assad, the Saudi regime, the chaos in Libya, the repressive sectarian government of Iraq, the "government" in Egypt, etc.

    Also note that there are places in the US where parties in a court proceeding may consent to have their case heard under Sharia law, although under our constitution of course.
     
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    The bombing of Japan did stop their vast project to depopulate and resettle China. A good thing? Perhaps?
     
  12. snakestretcher

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    Yes, I'm sure those still being born with genetic mutations will be eternally grateful for your democracy bombs.

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    No, it did not and was not. Japan was already beaten and on her knees before the bombs were dropped.
     
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    Only Jewish kids? Also, not sure why this has come up, but there's no relation between that Arabic phrase and the Swastika.
     
  14. WillReadmore

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    We rounded them up, put them in concentration camps, and stole their property before the horrific events we witnessed in the ensuing war.

    So, no, your comments aren't an excuse for what we did.
     
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    Bombs were dropped on Japan early in the war. The 2 Nukes were not the most deadly attacks.

    Only the destruction of the Japanese economy stopped the massive program to systematically eradicate the Chinese people.
     
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    If even half of a percent of the Muslims living here and moving here were at war with us, we'd have a terrorist attack in this country every day.
     
  17. FreedomSeeker

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    Wait....
     
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    No, they were not the most deadly, but their legacy continues to this day.
     
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    What legacy? Both cities are rebuilt and thriving.
     
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    That's what happens when you attack another country. Were we rounding them up before we got attacked?
     
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    You are correct, but uses of symbols and ideas change over time.

    If you want to make a comparative point regarding the swastika as used by the Nazi's, who generated massive human tragedy using it as their symbol (which is the same comparison that America's Black community uses regarding display of the Confederate Flag argument), than remember that although millions of Muslims still live in India - a nation whose major religion is Hindu, millions also fled that country in fear of the Hindu's, when India became independent in 1949, to form the nation of Pakistan. The two countries remain religiously and politically at odds with each other always. Fortunately, for stability in the region, although both countries have nuclear capability and arms, both countries distrust and dislike Communist China.

    Forced re-locations of major population's are one of human histories worst tragedies, and always seem to come back and haunt us. The Roman's created the Jewish disapora in 70 A.D. driving them out of Palestine, and they were forced to settle in other countries, which turned out to be mainly Central European, Baltic states in modern time. Same area as Germany, Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Russia, and anti-Semitism is thousands of years old. The Jews and their culture were not particularly welcomed, merely tolerated.

    Queen Isabella and King Ferdinand (the monarchy which sponsored Columbus' [an Italian], expeditions to the New World, at the same time ordered, for what they considered political stability, that all citizens of Spain must convert to Christianity, forcing hundred's of thousands of Muslims and Jews out of that country, and resettled into the established, at the time, Jewish ghettos of Central Baltic Europe where they would become the targets of the Nazi Germany persecution.

    Millions of Palestinians relocated to other Middle Eastern countries rather than live under the control of the newly established State of Israel in 1948, and their descendants have maintained a reign of terrorism against Israel to this day. The Syrian, Iraqi refugee problem, fleeing Islamic terrorism like ISIS, against - well - just about everybody in the Middle East (and BTW, only Jordan takes in Muslim refugees, many more than they can adequately care for, while major European and Arab countries deny entrance), is another example of how forced re-location comes back in history to raise its ugly head in modern times. Gandhi was assassinated by a Hindu, fortunately, had it been a Muslim, unholy, bloody retribution would have been dealt to the Muslim population of India, at about the exact same time many were fleeing for the new state of Pakistan.

    America itself, with a huge continent vacant, and waiting to be filled, accepted every and almost all comers from the mid-1800's into the 1900's, using the Homestead Act. Had England not instituted the Irish Famine, driving out more Irishmen than inhabit that country today, America would not have gained their labors and culture, along with that of the other major ethnic groups which came here. All were fleeing something intolerable in their own countries, from even as early as the Puritan's of the 1600's.

    The Hispanic illegal immigration problem into America today, is simply an extension of the forced relocation of person(s) and ethnic peoples fleeing tyranny, and looking for economic benefits not offered in their own countries, which America can provide. I could go on-and-on regarding forced relocation's, in Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, China, Korea, in modern times, however, think the point is well taken.

    Here in the Christmas season, when Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ, one should remember that Jesus, Mary and Joseph were turned away at the inn, forced to locate to a barn (stable or manger if you prefer), and warned to flee by Eastern kings who apparently followed a star to the location of a "savior" for civilization - the Three Wise Men. They knew of Jewish King Harod's plot against Jewish children born in the period and Jesus, Mary and Joseph fled to Egypt, where they allegedly remained until Harod's death, about the time Jesus was a young teenager. Jews were slaves in Babylon; Egypt (Moses and his plagues against the Pharoh, until the Exodus) also.

    If we see the modern day refugees as "person(s)" and not as "problems" - as long as we have appropriate oversight, our own great nation can continue to be a haven to those who, like Mary, Joseph and Jesus of yore, still flee from modern-day Herods............
     
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    We didn't round up Germans or Italians.

    And, as I remember, those countries were featured rather prominently in WWII.
     
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    We've had Muslims in this country for about as long as we've been a country. How long do we have to wait? Over 200 years and the vast majority of them are still peaceful.
     
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    We only need to be concerned about the 300 million (the 20% that Harris talks about) that favor Jihad, the others are irrelevant. You are right, but with the world getting "smaller" every day, things are about to come to a head in the next 20 years or so. That 300 million figure could mushroom, until we see a mushroom cloud over Tel Aviv, London, Paris, and New York. Many Muslims would cheer if a mushroom cloud occurred over Washington DC (they'd feel that maybe, finally, Islamic Law could be the law of the world, like the Qur'an desires.)

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    It likely won't happen in America until it happens in Arabia and in Europe....so we have a few more years. After all probably fewer radical Muslims choose to live in the "Great Satan" (America) than in almost any other country on earth.

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    Some were: "Internment was not limited to those who had been to Japan, but included a very small number of German and Italian enemy aliens"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans
     
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    You're interpretation of that 300M is preposterous and totally unsupportable.

    The problem in Syria has to do with a horribly repressive regime that has been bombing its own people. That has NOTHING to do with us, but everything to do with creating a situation where a few terrorists can make serious headway.

    The same goes for Iraq. We put in place a government that has been horribly repressive, disenfranchising its citizens and waging lethal assaults on civilians. That was a major opening for extremists.

    Suggesting this has anything to do with religion or with 300M of anything at all is pure nonsense.
     

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