America is edging closer to civil war

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  1. Tofiks

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    already 10 years Russia economy is on stagnation, but at the same time russian citizens are telling to themself, that US economy will collapse in disaster. Funny, but nothing new, in soviet times when people lived in poverty, propaganda constantly told them, that capitalism will collapse. In the end USSR collapsed and poor russian people received humanitarian aid from US. Believe me, this time will be the same.
     
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    Russia has a long history of aggression against its neighbors. You're peddling nonsense.
     
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    This is true, but if you look at their viewpoint, what would we do if Russia put missiles or troops or had military games with Mexico or some Latin American country with the excuse the US has caused so much grief in some of them?
     
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    There is so much hatred, racism, treachery, corruption, paranoia and guns in the USA, I think Id be surprised if there wasnt some kind of civil war.
     
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    Just like the US ... they have an equally long history for that too!
    Ask yourself, in which Central and South American country in the past 100 years, the US has not massively overthrown governments with the secret service, have supported rebels against unloved governments or even intervened directly with their own military! Little tip ... the list is long!

    And do not try to justify all these things as well justified because of US interests or because of the cold war, so you're just making a fool of yourself ... apart from that, the Russians can just as exactly claim the same in their actions!
     
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    Is there any territories annexed by US in last 100 years, countries destroyed and their elites sent to slave camps or just exterminated? This is what Russia do in 20. and 21. centuries. Does US do the same and where?
     
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    Let me think about a moment....
    Nicaragua, Cuba, Mexico, Columbia, Haiti, Honduras, Grenada ...?

    Where is the difference between KGB or NKWD of USSR who sent people to forced labor camps as slaves and fight any enemy brutally and do mass murdering on one side .... and the CIA & Co who finance local scum and mob rebels / otherwise local dictators and drug cartels to do this in the favor and interest of the USA on the other side again?
     
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    America does not have to answer to Russia, but Russia will answer to the USA and the West if it goes any further in its aggression.
     
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    Relay? Nicaragua, Cuba, Mexico, Columbia, Haiti, Honduras, Grenada lost territories to US or where completely annexed in last 100 years? Their elites where enalieted, mass deportations of local population were made, propery was nacionilazed and colonozation of their lands with US military pensioners and civil colonists were done? Maybe i missed something?

    Of course, US behaviour agint its nabors many times was unfair, but i think you do not realise what you are competing.
     
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    Yes sure. Dem congress is going to introduce a declaration of war after mid-terms? Ask Trump to activate the draft? So long as Merkel and the EU economically support Vlad, Russia will suffer NO consequences.
     
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    I think there will be no apocalypse, no Armageddon, don't rely on these things to save you from the boring routine of your life..... pay your taxes and be a good person, you can sweet it with Vodka or hash but that's about it ;)
     
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    The West will not support Vlad.
     
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    Merkel & Macron's EU are doing such an outstanding job of propping up Vlad's Russian economy, they not only negate US sanctions, they finance Vlad's hypersonic ICBM production. You don't need a crystal ball to predict what's been underway for years, and being planned for in the immediate future ... Nordstream 2 ... doubling Vlad's petro revenues.
     
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    Im a unapologetic progressive liberal. I own plenty of guns, and I know how to shoot them. You never know when a right wing fascist will come to your door wrapped in a flag demanding that you worship their god.
     
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    The Russian economy is barely scraping along. If Germany et al switch to American energy, Russia collapses, aain.
     
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    I saw your stream. And I know that it was deleted by the moderators. I am against censorship. Why can't I show news in another language? This is unfair. Especially if the person translated the article into English.
    Also, I am surprised at the prohibition to call a person who he is. For example, if you call someone sick with a cold, the moderators do not delete your comment. But if a person is an idiot, why can't I write it straight? This is not an insult, a constatation of fact. But the moderators delete my comment they banned. In other words, moderators are punished for the truth.
    I think this is censored.
     
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    Now there are two such parties.
     
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    It's how this place is kept as civil as it is, I guess. Lots of insults flying around, but you can't call people this or insinuate that they are that... I get the same "censorship" from time to time. It's fine. It's best to stick to the issues and let the idiots be idiots without resorting to pointing it out with name-calling.
     
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    I'm not the one peddling nonsense, the MSM is. They peddled that Russia attacked Georgia, when it was the Nato trained Georgian army that attacked and killed the Russian peacekeepers as well as civilians. Russia was merely responding to the attack. Nothing illegal about that.

    As for Crimea, after the pogrom where 7 protesters from Crimea were killed, and 30 are still missing and presumed dead, the government in Simferopolis declared its independence. They asked the Russians stationed there to protect Crimea until a referendum could be held to legalize their independence and unite with Russia. Nothing illegal about that either!
     
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    It is sad
     
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    The NKVD and the KGB never sent people to the camps as slaves. People are sent to camps by a court sentence. For the crimes committed. In the USSR, arrest occurs only by a court sentence. Perhaps in Germany lawlessness reigns, but in the USSR the law was above all.
     
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    We've finally found something we all can agree on! :lol:
     
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    Russians have a lot of experience in dealing with the West. And they know very well how NATO can fool. For example. NATO promised not to expand to the east - they deceived. NATO assured the whole world that Saddam Hussein had chemical weapons - they deceived. And so on. Libya, Syria, ... Ukraine, Georgia.
     
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    Mexicans do not like Americans. And they want protection from US domination. In addition, the United States occupied Mexicans land, for example, the state of Texas, southern California. Therefore, it is necessary to put the Russian rocket in Mexico. To protect our Mexican friends.
     
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    Russia doesn't need the economic support of the EU or any nation. They are the ones that need the support of Russia because it contains 30% of the world's resources. This is why the west has always been so aggressive towards Russia, and has done everything possible to destroy it one way or another to grab its resources whether it be land, oil, etc.

    Since Russia doesn't have to import, it costs them very little to make machines, cars, trucks, guns, jets, subs, tanks, etc., etc. Thanks to the sanctions, Putin was able to embargo EU goods and thereby eliminate the competition.

    This gave him the opportunity to make Russia self sufficient in food products as well - which it now is, so that the only thing Russia still imports is milk products and meat, but it won't be for long. They have also beat out the US and Canada in grain, so that now Russia is feeding half the world. Everything Washington did to damage Russia, has benefited them instead.

    Russia's only fear was that they might be taken off SWIFT, so when the sanctions started, they began developing their own internal one. They also began dropping the American dollar in trade, and began buying up gold for safe keeping.

    India is the latest country to ignore Washington's threats, and said it will buy Russia's S-400's - and they will pay for them in Rubles. They are not the only ones dropping the American dollar, quite a few nations have jumped on the band wagon. Without the American dollar the printing presses will have to stop, and our wars will have to stop. Also the US will not be able to sanction nations, since they won't be able to keep tract of them.

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