America is edging closer to civil war

If this is true, what about all the covert illegal CIA actions to overthrow democratic leftist leaders throughout central and south America including the 2009 one in Honduras where a School of the Americas graduate dictator set up a bloodthirsty US backed junta that sucked the country dry and forced the immigration we see today from Honduras to your very borders fleeing the desperate poverty and instability you caused?

What about Iraq or the ME in general which the military/industrial/intelligence complex of your nation continues to flood with mass weapons of war creating a living hell of death and destruction wherever you go?

What about Afghanistan which you cannot suppress with all your might and which continues to be one of the most inhumane and poverty-stricken and dangerous areas of the world?

What about your support for the death and despair your client state in the Wahhabi kingdom Saudi Arabia where women are still stoned to death in the street for adultery, is raining down on the poorest of nations in Yemen?

Where exactly have you brought peace, growth and prosperity?

Everywhere you go is violence and death - even in the heart of your own nation which is tearing itself apart in it's hubris and hate of each other....

Where, name one place you have brought prosperity and peace??????

Don't forget it was the Russians who broke the back of the Nazi death machine.

 

Nope! State Capitalist. Soviet Union was communist in name only. Same with China. State Capitalism - you should read about the history of these ideas before making blanket declarations

 

In the USSR, there was no communism. In the USSR under Stalin was the construction of socialism. But unfortunately, it was not possible to complete this construction at this stage. By the way, maybe you think that the construction of communism will no longer be. You are very mistaken. Now there is a stage of reaction in the transition of the world economy to communism.
This process is not fast. For example, the transition from the slaveholding political and economic system to the feudal one lasted for about 700 years. With varied success. The transition from the feudal political-economic system to the capitalist one lasted 400 years. Only one civil war in Flanders 1622 - 1708 lasted 86 years. And as in any transitional period, there were breakthroughs, and there was also a reaction (rollback). The same thing is happening now. In Russia, unfortunately, there is a rollback. And the political and economic system has returned to capitalism. But it is not for long.

 

They tolerate gringos who bring money--Americans do and Russians don't. China might get somewhere with them...

 

I didn't say NATO isn't going to attack non-NATO countries, but I did say it won't attack Russia.

 

Give it up Durandal! It stopped selling a long time ago.

This would be more like it:

 

Not directly, but indirectly it's attacking nations aligned with Russia - one by one.

 

The problem with communism is that it's adherents are more driven by envy and resentment towards the ruling class, than on a desire towards a more just society. So when they gain power, they become worse than the rulers they overthrew.

Anyway I know the Germanic societies in Northern Europe are communal rather than individual oriented so socialism works well there. In the US the Amish live under a communist system, but it's because they are very devout Christians.

This might surprise people, but the Catholic Church also runs on a communist system. The priests are paid just about nothing, and are given cars and a place to live by the Church. This is also why they can't marry, the Church simply can't afford to give them a higher wage and hold on to all their hospitals, schools, old people homes, etc. I know that they cover hospitals expenses and even funerals if there isn't anyone to pay for it, and it doesn't matter if they're Catholic or not.

I don't think though a communist system would ever work in individualistic societies such as Greece, Italy, Spain, etc. But then again it depends on how devout they are - otherwise I can't see it.

 

You are entitled to your opinions.

 

We can argue definitions but it is pointless. The reason communism doesn't work is that it works against human nature. Hence the oligarchy which is very representative of human nature.

 

And what does that mean, superstar of all russian propaganda?

How come every journalist that questions putin the dog gets killed?

When will putin the dog be put on trial for crimes against humanity in ukraine, syria, and chechnya?

 

I doubt there will be a Civil war as the left can't even decide what bathroom to us. I can imagine all 64 genders marching in Vagina costumes looking for a fight. lol Is that even possible.

 

But they don't like gringos. Therefore, they will be happy to open a Russian military base and deliver Russian missiles.

 

This is just your guess. Reality makes crazy in the White House and Pentogon. For example, you might think that the United States will lie in the UN Security Council and show a test tube with chalk, telling everyone that it is Saddam Hussein's chemical weapon?

 

You do not understand the communist society. First of all, in communism there is no private ownership of the subsoil and the means of production. That is, for example, all people are the owners of oil or gold, or other raw materials. As well as factories and plants, are also the property of the whole society.
Also under communism and socialism (as the first and primitive stage of communism) the exploitation of man by man is forbidden.
In other words, each worker receives a reward for his work according to his abilities (under socialism) or needs (under communism). The term “by need” needs clarification for you. But this is a long and serious question. So I think that you can find the answer on the Internet.

As I wrote above, the construction of socialism was stopped after the death of Stalin. Khrushchev created a nomenklatura political economic system. This system has nothing to do with socialism. Naturally in this system the role of oligarchs was performed by officials. But under Stalin there was a completely different system. And to remove all the speculation, you can read an inventory of the property that remained after Stalin. And you will understand that the real Communists had no wealth. For example, a security guard present at the time of the inventory of Stalin’s property said, looking at everything that Stalin owned, “even I live richer”.
Lenin, Stalin, Dzerzhinsky, Molotov .... and other real communists did not have millions or billions. Having such power, could easily become the richest people. But they were communists, and thought according to their convictions.
The Germans, if they can captured by a political officers or a communists, shot them right away. Because communists always tried to fight. For example, organizing escape, sabotage, rebellion.
The party leadership of the communist party issued a directive during the war. "The Communists have only one advantage - to go first in the attack." And it was. It is a fact. Many Red Army men, before the attack wrote an application for admission to the Communist Party. And before the attack, they asked to be considered communists.

The transition of the whole society to the communist political and economic system is an objective necessity. Otherwise, society will simply die. I advise you to read Lenin's work "Imperialism as the Highest Stage of Capitalism." This is a short work and is written in clear and easy to read language.

 

We will see. In China, for example, communism works very well. In a short time, China became the first economy in the world in terms of purchasing power parity. And overtook the United States.

 

Yeah, I heard that one, as well as western bankers and big corporations wanting access of the very fertile farm land in Ukraine. I dunno what the reason was, but IMO, it involved some elites filling their pockets. You can set your clock by that sort of thing.

What I do know though is about the phone conversation between Nuland and our ambassador there. It was on you tube, and may still be, not sure. Listen for yourself, right from the horses mouth.

And yet, even with that hard evidence, we have members here who scoff at facts and deny that our gov't, our CIA, didn't meddle and was involved in a coup, taking down an elected president. We don't do that sort of thing, these people believe. But they are naive, disconnected from what reality actually is. And you cannot convince them otherwise. But many people are affected with this, in regards to other issues. There is never enough evidence to convince them. They just deny it. ha ha ha. I would not want them on a jury, if I had to depend upon them for justice.

 

I posted the video of Nuland and Pyatt's conversation quite a few times on the forum, so they know damn well that Washington had the coup in Kiev and Washington chose their president. Friedman of Stratfor said it was the most blatant coup in history. Now he's trying to deny it, but it's on record. It's like Soros now trying to deny what he did during the war. Suddenly he's presenting himself as a holocaust victim.

Those posters are not dumb and they are not naive - anything but. They have an agenda and fairness and justice is not part of it. They are following Goebbel's precept that if you say something often enough people will believe it.

 

Maybe you shpuld accuse your own government then too and not keep in silence if they do bad ... but be suddenly awake if Russia does, eh?

 

No, I'm not confused, nor I throw the USSR and Russia without separation in a pot ...

The USSR has its evil things in the cold war - the suppression of Eastern Europe, keyword Prgaer spring and insurrection in Hungary, or the war in Afghanistan getain ... and even before Stalin Crisis crimes ... the US at the same time their evil Things like Vietnam or even the interference in Central and South America, or even at the same time as Stalin evil things.

Russia also shows a hypocrisy like the US today ... in Chechnya, the independence effort was suppressed with two wars and one terrorist regime, but if Russians rise in the Donbass against the Ukrainian government or Russia-friendly minorities in northern Georgia do it, that is again other and they are good insurgents.
Or even currently ... Russia directly supports the bastard and criminal Assad in Syria ... the US via Saudi Arabia the bastards of the Yemeni government! And both play the hypocritical troll and blame the other for his actions and ignore their own acts of deception or come up with ridiculous reasons and statements!

 

I'm going to post a video below that I posted many times of Kadyrov where he says that Chechnya was torn apart by foreign terrorists - basically the way Syria was torn apart. In another video he said they came in from 180 countries, and in another one he said he made a vow with his men in 1998 that he will fight terrorists wherever they are.

What I know is that the US wanted to split Chechnya from Russia because the oil pipes went through it, so fighting the terrorists in Chechnya was a matter of survival for Russia the way it is in Syria.

The Muslims in Russia's southern flanks are moderate Sunnis - they are not extremists. When Putin told Bush that he found CIA agents embedded with the terrorists in Chechnya, Bush told him that the US can do what ever it wants.

The same thing is going on in Syria. The US wanted gas pipelines from Qatar to go through Syria to break Russia's monopoly and Assad refused to hurt Russia so the US NGO's like USAID started their propaganda campaign against Assad. This deceived some Syrians into going against Assad, but when they realize they were fooled and that the terrorists were taken control of Syria they joined Assad's army.

Don't believe anything you read about Assad. If he was even half of what they say he wouldn't be loved by the Syrian people. Nor would the Syrians have voted for him, nor would they be fighting and dying for him. I no more believe that he had snipers shooting people in Damascus than I did with Yanukovich in Kiev. It has now been proven that they were hired in Georgia to overthrow the government in Kiev.

Russia is in Syria to fight the foreign terrorists, and to keep them from entering southern Russia the way they did with Chechnya.

If you get on to 3:15 you can hear Kadyrov speak. (There are English captions). He mentions that it was terrorists that had ripped Chechnya apart, and how Vladimir Putin was the only one willing to speak to his father the Mufti and bring peace to the war torn country.

 

It doesn't matter how wealthy they are, it's one large prison and the people are miserable. This doesn't mean we have a right to impose anything on them, but I personally think they should open up a little bit more - at least to Christianity.