American Jews Are Starting Wars, Jewish Former CIA Spy Valerie Plame Wilson Retweets

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by ForumPoster, Sep 25, 2017.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Llewellyn Moss

    Llewellyn Moss Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2016
    Messages:
    1,572
    Likes Received:
    681
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Hmm...it really isn't exactly just drivel. Zionist...Zionism is a front organization for a larger...deep state.
     
  2. Taxonomy26

    Taxonomy26 Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2016
    Messages:
    1,611
    Likes Received:
    1,237
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yeah, you got it Mel.
    It's the newest incarnation/variant of the NWO/illuminati conspiracy theory.
    Only proving my point about this mini insane asylum.
    This board is just the back up venue for Infowars.
    +
     
    Last edited: Sep 30, 2017
    JakeStarkey, Llewellyn Moss and Jonsa like this.
  3. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2011
    Messages:
    39,871
    Likes Received:
    11,452
    Trophy Points:
    113

    Huh? My heart races at the mere thought you might be in possession of some new revealing knowledge, but my mind says "ze protocols is his answer".
     
    Pisa, JakeStarkey and Taxonomy26 like this.
  4. Llewellyn Moss

    Llewellyn Moss Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2016
    Messages:
    1,572
    Likes Received:
    681
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Heh. Been there done that.

    God forbid anyone ever think that powerful men or organizations get together and 'conspire' to shape things for their own ends. Usually, it's making money, but other objectives are also in play.
     
  5. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2015
    Messages:
    9,065
    Likes Received:
    4,235
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    If the Saudis had more influence over the US Government than the Israelis, why do the wealthy Israelis receive more of everything (sophisticated weaponry, money etc) than the Saudi's even though ALL aid to Israel is illegal under the Symington Amendment.

    Please consider:
    "How the Israel Lobby Controls US Foreign Policy in the Middle East"
    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-israel-lobby-controls-us-foreign-policy-middle-east-matthews

    EXCERPT "Israel has been able to get pretty much everything they want in terms of expanding illegal settlements, billions in US foreign aid money, the wanton killing of Palestinian civilians for alleged “self-defense”, and the overall continued genocidal Apartheid occupation of a brutalized population in the prison-like ghettos of the West Bank and Gaza Strip. In other words, the situation as it exists in the occupied territories is neither good for the US or Israel.

    If it’s considered important enough to oust a suspected enemy of the State of Israel, orchestrated programs can involve any number of dirty tricks to include black mail, bribery, frame jobs, cyber attacks and, of course, threats to one’s character, livelihood, and even life. Again, it’s all a question of severity and how much of a threat (or rather perceived threat) someone in an established powerful position is to what Israel views as their national interests, i.e. Machiavellian dominance. You can bet that what works well for CIA goes double for Mossad."CONTINUED
     
    ForumPoster likes this.
  6. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2016
    Messages:
    25,747
    Likes Received:
    9,526
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Do you understand those words and how they work? And you mean NWO.
     
    Last edited: Sep 30, 2017
  7. Llewellyn Moss

    Llewellyn Moss Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2016
    Messages:
    1,572
    Likes Received:
    681
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Well..

    As these terms tend to be fluid, "understanding" them can be a bit of a chore. And I don't think NWO fits in the context in which I understand it.

    But, I might be enlightened.
     
  8. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2011
    Messages:
    39,871
    Likes Received:
    11,452
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Ah so you were merely being coy?
     
  9. Llewellyn Moss

    Llewellyn Moss Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2016
    Messages:
    1,572
    Likes Received:
    681
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Zionism is a real heavy hitter globally, and there is NO reason that it can't be talked about, in real terms. However, it IS a touchy subject, it shouldn't be, but it is.

    Zionism is jewish, but then again, it is NOT. It is something else. So I like to play with it, yes. Come on now, where is that famous jewish sense of humor ?

    Often seems lacking on this subject.
     
  10. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2011
    Messages:
    39,871
    Likes Received:
    11,452
    Trophy Points:
    113

    Oh don't get me wrong. Visceral in the sense of the "sensation" one feels when confronting scumbag racists.

    I have travelling this road for a few decades.
     
  11. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2011
    Messages:
    39,871
    Likes Received:
    11,452
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Zionism has been fulilled. Israel as the national homeland of the jews is a reality. Zionism today could be said to be the movement to MAINTAIN that homeland in a hostile world. In America they call that Patriotism.

    Now there is a virulent strain of zionism that demands Eretz Yisroel be from river to sea - meaning all of the West bank. Unfortunately Bibi's Likud is a proponent of said strain. that's a serious obstacle to any resolution of the clustermuck that is the middle east.

    AS for humour.

     
  12. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2011
    Messages:
    39,871
    Likes Received:
    11,452
    Trophy Points:
    113


    the last retreat.
     
  13. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2013
    Messages:
    42,019
    Likes Received:
    5,395
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Hence the criticism. It's simply a war crime to do so according to the Geneva Conventions, so says the ENTIRE world.
    I do not recall the Jewish Israeli's not being in favor of a government who has this idea to ethnically conquer lands that aint theirs to have.

    Judgement of those actions made by those Israeli Jews are just typically meat with racist cussing and slurs... not arguments.
     
    ejca likes this.
  14. Andrew Jackson

    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2016
    Messages:
    48,642
    Likes Received:
    32,382
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Jared and Ivanka are starting hella wars. :salute:
     
  15. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2011
    Messages:
    39,871
    Likes Received:
    11,452
    Trophy Points:
    113

    Yes often it is.

    OTOH, there are then people like me who when necessary can and do slap the crap outta jew haters masquerading as anti-zionists.

    to me legitimate anti zionists have some pretty damn valid arguments. Its the jew haters that sour the well and make reasonable exchange almost impossible .

    It may surprise many to know that within Israel itself there is strong disagreement and debate about many of those valid arguments both pro and con, just like any vibrant democracy. I'd agree Israel's hat is definitely a strong shade of grey, but it's one helluva lot paler than the hats of their arab neighbors.
     
  16. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2011
    Messages:
    39,871
    Likes Received:
    11,452
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Which GC signatory was Israel breaking the conventions with?

    Do you have any clue how much convoluted illogic you manged to pack into that sentence?

    Yes you have no argument.
     
  17. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2011
    Messages:
    39,871
    Likes Received:
    11,452
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Who said that? Are you aware of exactly what the GC covers and who it does? non state actors aint' covered and guess what? the palestinians were non-state actors. there is about a million pages of bitter arguments on this very subject that surely you are aware of.


    not quite accurate. Prior to 67 there were no settlements. You manage to forget said fact about HOW the Israelis just happen to occupy those territories and WHY they werent given back to their nominal "owners"?


    Now that is one of the purer bits of ironic comment I've seen around here in some time.
     
  18. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2013
    Messages:
    42,019
    Likes Received:
    5,395
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Article 2 of the GC reads:
    The Convention shall also apply to all cases of partial or total occupation of the territory of a High Contracting Party, even if the said occupation meets with no armed resistance.

    You asking "who said that?"... well.. the freaking entire world! lol

    Oh whooptido buddy. So the Jewish population in Israel, by majority, have been voting in governments with ethnic cleansing, geneva trashing, war criminal governments since 1967 to 2017. There is nothing holding me back to qualify / judge the norms and values of such a population, as being utterly foul, racist and criminal... and label it as a fair and unbiased judgement. Or would you go so far, that being pro ethnic cleansing, geneva trashing war criminal governments is perfectly within the accepted norms of 1967-2017?
     
    Eadora likes this.
  19. Taxonomy26

    Taxonomy26 Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2016
    Messages:
    1,611
    Likes Received:
    1,237
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I refuted 'notme' on the applicability of the Geneva convention in this post:
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...el-in-istanbul.511005/page-22#post-1067868893

    and many others above and below it. check it out.
    In fact, he is NOT at all conversant on the Facts of that/Any matter, only supporting his case by citing UN 'votes.'
    argumentum ad populum ... instead of fact v fact.

    And I might add: "International Law", is merely what the 57 Muslim Nation UN says it is.. that week: in many cases ex post facto.
    +
     
    Last edited: Oct 1, 2017
  20. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2013
    Messages:
    42,019
    Likes Received:
    5,395
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Oh yeah... sure. Totally split.
    Truth of the matter is, the bulk keeps on voting in governments who expands these settlements... for like the past +60 years.
     
  21. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2013
    Messages:
    42,019
    Likes Received:
    5,395
    Trophy Points:
    113
    high contracting party = Israel.
    Maybe you should look up the definition.
    I think we all have seen that picture about the land of Palestinians being less and less.
     
    Last edited: Oct 1, 2017
  22. Lee S

    Lee S Moderator Staff Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2012
    Messages:
    10,649
    Likes Received:
    2,624
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Rule 2, 3, 4, and 5 - THREAD LOCKED - Incessant baiting taunting, insults, and off-topic back and forth
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page