Americans 'are sicker and die younger' than people in other wealthy nations

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jan/10/americans-sicker-die-younger

This is abolutely shocking! This is the first comparison done, with the US against such a wide range of other countries and it has highlighted that healthcare (both personal responsibility) and of the HC systems is woefully lacking.

I would say it starts with poor diet and personal attitude towards your own health and continues through the systems which are supposed to maintain your health (insurance and hospitals).

At it's root cause, I would guess that "profit" is the cause. Food manufacturers not identifying the chemically laden food stuffs they produce, swaying government with lobby groups. Then the insurance companies spending huge amounts of cash, in order to not pay out on the premiums.

The worlds most wealthy country on the planet fails at the most important indicator of success; the health of the nation.

 

Another factor is that we Americans are constantly on the go. Fast food fuels our fast lives. Family meals cooked by mom are a dying tradition. We also have a poorly socialized society, rarely do you see people who do not know each other make a new aquantence and enjoy a cup of coffee or tea together over a casual conversation.

 

Oh how stunning. The communist blames capitalism. I am aghast! [/sarcasm]
Get over yourself.
When these lame ass liars give a real report on anything I'll listen. But the statistics are skewed and misleading as hell.
Not worried or bothering with further discussion of crapola.

 

I'd agree. The Dutch are a pretty healthy bunch and work / life is far more balanced that what I observe about American's.

The US needs to take a long look at itself and ask whether its long term strategy is productive to its people.

 

Why do foreigners care so much about our health?

Is it because the socialists depend on America so much for military defense, funding for the international welfare programs at the UN, and to brighten up their dull and dreary lives at home by living through us vicariously?

 

Here's a thought, call me old fashioned if you will, but could you address the OP or kindly (*)(*)(*)(*) right off this thread?

There's a good chap.

 

Why don't you open the floodgates to American-style immigration and ethnic diversity and then see what happens to your country!!

It's all immigration. Everything. Poverty, crime, education levels, health indicators, everything. You want to create a socialist utopia? Become a racial separatist and fill your country with either north europeans or Japanese people.

 

Reported, yet again.

Either address the OP or stop trolling the thread!

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Your anti-immigrant agenda has nothing to do with health, nothing! The other countries in the comarison also have nigh levels of immigration.

 

The concept of caring about the welfare other human beings is entirely alien to you?

 

It's the standard response from MAC when someone posts something definitive, that he cannot troll in other ways...

 

Do you think that godless lib socialists in Europe are driven by compassion for their fellow man in America?

What a laugh.

 

In that case, please kindly compare American healthcare to other countries such as Brazil, India, China, and South Africa.

America has flooded herself with poverty and social problems in recent decades. Are you saying the wealthy in America have a greater obligation to the poor, because the country took in more immigrants, than the wealthy in the UK ? This may have implications in political theory.

 

Authors:
Steven H. Woolf and Laudan Aron, Editors; Panel on Understanding Cross-National Health Differences Among High-Income Countries; Committee on Population; Division of Behavioral and Social Sciences and Education; National Research Council; Board on Population Health and Public Health Practice; Institute of Medicine

It's a very credible paper.

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No. They are not Western countries and would not be comparable.

 

Just because you don't care about anyone who isn't just like you doesn't mean everybody else thinks the same way. You're kind of distracting from the topic of the thread though.

 

What does "Western" mean? Full of industrious and prosperous peoples descended from Northern and Western Europe? You still are not proving your case.

 

When compared your "it's dem [not white] foreigners" argument, I feel quite happy.

 

The Americans spend much more on their health than any other people, but they are such half-wits that they let it be ruined by capitalism. The quisling government over here is trying to introduce the same idiocy to please their rich friends. Such people have the morals of pigs, and I don't see how they can do without the widespread use of drugs to keep themselves in power over the mugs.

 

In America, we are much more independent minded. We're not used to being obiedient to the state, and it plays over to the attitudes about our own health. We feel our health is our own business, and we don't feel obligated to live a certain way just because the government say's we should.
People in other wealthy countries are more used to being programmed, and fall in line easier with government health guidelines.

 

What government tells us how to live then? Come ON! That is just nonsense: you waste vast sums on giving profit to private medicine, and it is hugely inefficient, that's all, as well as failing a vast proportion of your population totally. Selfish people should at least have some sense!

 

Please tell me how things are working out in China and India. Prosperity has far more to do with other things besides just the type of economic system.

 

I have no doubt that if you go around stealing people's money to pay for other people's healthcare then yeah, they'll get healthier. That doesn't make stealing any less bad.

 

And the prooof of the pudding is in the results of the study. Unfortunately the results show minors and babies are also being severely impacted by your poor decision making.

What you describe seems to me similar to the following:

1. Government says American's should shoot themselves in the foot with a hand gun.

2. American citizens shoot themselves in the foot with hand guns, just to show that government "can't tell them what to do".

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Stealing = bad

Healthcare for your country = an abomination.

OKEEEEEEE.

 

We're also not used to the government stealing our money to give to someone else for their healthcare. You on the other hand are programmed to accept the nanny states decisions.

 

What is your point? like all capitalist systems, those rob the majority and let them die. They are not, however, in any way comparable with the USA. Compare like with like and stop making noises like a teabag.

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Sober up. We spend far less than you and get immensely more for it. You are just repeating silly republican rants which have no meaning. Come and see.

 

This is such a simple response to a complex situation. You do not seem to have read the OP's source at all, otherwise you'd see that. All you are doing is repeating the GOP's tired old stance, when the OP makes it clear that there are more issues at hand.