America's achilles heel - election system

Why does China make what we could make for ourselves?

At least we're moving in the right direction to put an end to that.

 

Cheap, non-union labor. Why else?

 

That ain't a good enough reason.

Nixon goes to China -- among the worst days in American history.

 

It is for the *******s writing policy.

Yeah, we shouldn't be feeding China. It's a horrible mistake.

 

Well first we don't have a very good system to even detect it let alone study it as we vote by secret ballot and the ballots not cast with a name associated with it and as I already showed miniscule voter fraud can have HUGE reprocussion so stop with the canard. And we vote in local elections nit HUGE national elections.

Why are youbL seeming to complain that another country has mostly voter ID and some if us are trying to get it in all states when your own country has voter ID?

You don't seem so concerned about people being disfranchised in your own why are youvcomplaing about us using it here?

What huge number? Again you don't seem so concerned about the huge number of diverse reasons in your country.

 

Who claims we area "damaged democracy"? That would be showing a succinct ignorance of our government and Constitution which guaranties we will not be any kind of democracy.

 

Do you have problems with reading comprehension?

Yes, those are the IDs necessary to get a State ID. The State ID is valid for voting. But most of the IDs valid for getting a State ID are not themselves valid for voting.

Here is the problem, as I have now stated FOUR times: however easy you think it is to get a State ID, 275,000 Wisconsin adults have neither a driver’s license Nor a State ID. So the Wisconsin Voter ID law instantly disenfranchised those 275,000 people.

Meanwhile, you continue to refuse to address the fact that in-person voter fraud is vanishingly rare. So rare that if just TWO of those 275,000 are refused the chance to vote because they lack the proper ID, then the Voter ID law has caused more harm than simply doing nothing.

Why do you keep avoiding that fact? I’m beginning to suspect that it is because you know there is no valid argument in favor of Voter ID, and you just want to suppress the vote of people you disagree with.

 

The former American owdended now nationally owned companies and corporations have outsourced American jobs.
It's all about the bottom line $$$ for the stockholders and the corporate CEO's.,

Todays American companies and corporations no longer hold any loyalty to America or the American people.

The Oligarchy ,,,

The Trilateral Commission,

The Bilderbergs

GLobalization < http://trilateral.org/ > was born in 1973 by David.


FYI:
Only President Reagan and President Trump have never been a member of the Oligarchy and the Trilateral Commission or the Bilderbergs.

 

I don't know, but the introduction of voter ID in Wisconsin disenfranchised around 200,000 in that state alone, according to this research:

https://www.scribd.com/document/347821649/Priorities-USA-Voter-Suppression-Memo

 

Yep. They fed the Hillary campaign salacious bunk about Trump for her Dossier because they were trying to help Trump. They organized the Inauguration protest and the million vagina march to help Trump. It would be more accurate to say that the Russians and Democrats are working separately toward the same goal of undermining confidence in our electoral processes.

 

This statement is false. I've always had to show an ID in Ohio and poll workers have always matched my information with a legitimate address for my precinct.

“before 2006, no state required photo identification to vote on Election Day. Today10 states have this requirement. All told, a total of 33 states — representing more than half the nation’spopulation — have some version of voter identification and suppression rules on the books.”

The joke is that we see comments from Democrats all the time that Democrats are geniuses and Republicans are dunces. Yet it appears that Democrats aren't smart enough to obtain a free photo ID and they are not smart enough to win elections that they win by 3M popular votes. We are left to wonder who the dunces are and who the geniuses are. Requiring an ID is not suppression. It is a small measure to verify the identity of people who show up at the polls claiming to be in the correct district and correct precinct.

 

Did you require ID or photo ID ?

I've not researched the matter exhaustively but the states that introduced voter ID legislation early didn't require photo ID. It may be splitting hairs to make a big deal of the difference.

 

That is hilarious. There is absolutly no doubt that the Russians worked to elect Trump. No doubt at all. Even Putin has admitted he favored Trump. Leave making stuff up to Trump who is way better at it than you are.

 

Really they had 200,000 people show up to vote and could not because none of them had ID's. Which election was that I don't recall reading about it. Wonder how they all survive in the real world.

 

So despite all the nonsense in your post you canmot support that the Russians helped elect Obama. Nice try though. One point for effort.

 

Oh yeah, I forgot. Gussifer2 was an independent hacker. And Russians didn't do facebook or attempt to hack election systems. And of course we are living imaginary lives on an imaginary planet ruled by leprechauns.

 

I'm still waiting to hear how they hacked the optical scanners we use.

Attempted to penetrate voter roll databases not voting systems. Was there any evidence of any damage? What's that going to get them?

A fake website where someone typed in a number NOT the voting tabulation system.

Of course when the Trump administration tried to do something about it..........

 

Photo ID. Way back when, they required a utility bill in the name of the voter with an address in the correct precinct. I think that was in Virginia.

 

Are you advocating we should allow people to register and then vote without ever having to identify themselves?

 

Long time ago when we first started ID that was acceptable but photo ID's are readily available now.

 

For a lot of people who live chaotic lives, it's really difficult to survive in the real world.

I live a comfortable middle-class life in a comfortable middle class house in a comfortable middle class area. My various forms of ID are safely stored where they're supposed to be and in the event that some ID is lost or stolen, I have the time and resources to get a replacement. I have a permanent address, I know where the necessary supporting documentation is (like my birth certificate and so on) and have plenty of money to pay for a replacement.

Someone who has no permanent address, no spare time or cash, who is more likely to have their ID stolen and who cannot easily lay their hands on their birth certificate and so on will have much more difficulty.

If you don't have an ID then you don't have to wait until you get to the polling station to learn that you can't vote - you don't even bother turning out because you know you need ID you don't have to vote.

 

Bless him though for being such a tool though. Putin must be laughing his ass off at Obama and Clinton supporters but again then who doesn't find them a joke?

 

When did you start believing Putin? Where did the Dossier come from? The narrative was authored by Putin's intel people. Explain how it came to be that Putin's people worked with Christopher Steele to destroy Trump. It would be fair to say that Putin had the same goal as Democrats adopted after Trump won --- to undermine confidence in our electoral processes.

 

The dossier was authored by Putin? Now that is real " fake news"

 

That doesn't seem consistent with the requirements quoted in this article from 2015:

https://www.cleveland.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/05/ohio_voter_photo_id_bill_aims.html

So while photo ID was acceptable, it was not necessary back then, you could have instead provided a "utility bill; bank statement; government check; paycheck; or "current other government document (other than a notice of voter registration)" - Photo ID was apparently not required in Ohio until 2015.