An idea of what needs to be done to get the nation back to work

Indeed! They can stay in their handkerchief sized parks, with all the neighbours' snotty kids. At least they all go home by about 4pm, that's one blessing.

Speaking of the forest .... if lockdown looks like continuing for a few months (and it almost certainly will), we're going to start doing overnight camps once a fortnight in the interests of sanity. It's relatively easy for us, as we have the specialist lightweight gear, and can be deep enough in the forest to be undetected with 15 minutes walking. Head in at sunset, and be back out before lunch next day. Will be a great help, I think. A sense of freedom.

 

Absolutely. We live in a similar place - we can walk for hours and not see another soul. And you're right, we're not the ones spreading the contagion. It's the cities causing the problems, because those who live there won't stay indoors. They can't step out onto their street without encountering others, and every surface they come into contact with has been germed on by thousands. Compare that to fishing, or hunting, or hiking .. no comparison!

 

Trails in Boulder County have been crowded for years.

 

Keep your eyes open for morel mushrooms

 

My point is that people are ignoring the idiot governor's stay at home order.. the only thing i agree with hom on.

In short the people of Colorado do not care if they get their neighbors sick.
That's what it means when you go out and about on nonessential errands during this period. It means you don't care if your neighbors die.

 

1/3 of the country is 110 million test kits... That takes a bunch of time. ...more important to find that cure. If we can reduce fatal outcomes 95% we can go back to work.

 

It would be interesting to test for cocaine when the checks clear.

 

We don't eat mushrooms, and not sure which varieties grow in my country, in any case

 

Sure. But they do need to suck it up at some point, just as we all do. They traded land for 'stimulation' before this happened, in the full knowledge that they were making themselves dependent upon the space and people outside their own walls, rather than the space and people inside their walls. That comes with huge risk, on so many levels - but again, they knew that going in. This is the price they pay for that choice. Just as we pay for our rural choice in other crises (droughts, fires, etc).

 

Sorry to resurrect another dead thread, but this is relevant:

Two relatives of mine just took and antibody test in Germany.

https://www.euroimmunblog.com/tests-for-detection-of-antibodies-against-sars-cov-2-now-available/

It cost them Euro 15.

Now, why can Germany do it? Where are our antibody test kits?

If Germany can get the antibody tests to ramp up quickly, expect them to reopen their economy much sooner than the US. They are even thinking of giving people "covid immune" certificates, so they can freely go about their business, without others accusing them of violating social distancing rules.

While Germany works on solutions, the US woks on political infighting, the blame game, and throwing money at the problem (remember, folks, in the good ole US it is always "money first").

 

Let's say we're talking about any small business, perhaps a restaurant, that had 50 employees prior to all this mess. All 50 employees are furloughed and now the owner wants to bring them back for work. So what to do...test all 50 employees for antibodies? Only those with antibodies are allowed to come back to work. What percentage of these 50 workers are going to test positive for antibodies? I'm guessing very few? If so, then how will every small business find enough antibody-positive workers to open their business?

IMO testing temperatures is meaningless since all it does is show who have a temperature at that moment. Having a temperature does not guarantee Coronavirus and not having a temperature does not guarantee the person does not have Coronavirus.

Our lack of patience, our arrogance, and our reckless president, are going to force people back to close proximity, which I believe can be a recipe for disaster...

 

Do you know how accurate the test is in relation to false positives/negatives?

Hopefully something like this is in the pipeline here. We are testing coughing tigers now for C19 surely we can get an antibody test for humans. I’m sure there are many politicians on both sides who don’t want the truth known at the herd immunity level or the individual level. This pandemic is the most effective tool government has ever been handed to shape future society. They aren’t going to put it back in the toolbox until they’ve exploited it fully. We are nowhere near that point.