Another Black man dies while being restrained by police

No, he has a point. Zimmerman got away with murdering Trayvon because of an almost textbook example of overcharging. The jury could not logically prove the circumstances of the murder though the question of whether he did the deed was beyond question.

Same here, I suppose, there is no PROVABLE premediation. OTOH The first charge, of 3rd degree for only one was a textbook example of undercharging, as the recording proves 2nd degree for all pretty well.

 

If everyone followed the law we wouldn't need police. The police are here to uphold the law, not break it you can't try to defend the police breaking the law.

 

You can't try to defend criminals breaking the law either.

If everyone followed the law, we wouldn't need the police - now that is a marvelous suggestion. How about we all teach our kids to be good citizens, how about we clean up our communities and stop tolerating criminals?

 

Tell that to Breonna Taylor. Tell that to Akai Gurley. Tell that to Robbie Tolan. Tell that to Charles Kinsey.

 

Never tried to, people are going to break the law that is the reason we have police.

Wow seems I said the same thing.

We have had criminals since the country was founded, isn't that why we have police.

 

And to Ashley Nicole Chiasson, Christopher Roupe, and the thousands of people arrested on mistaken identity or get the wrong house raided. Let's see you suck off the cops when it happens to you.

 

And?? They’re exceptions NOT rules. You’re still talking a ridiculously low chance. Insanely low. In Taylor’s case it wasn’t police brutality. It was a terrible mistake and an accident. White people get in those same situations. They just receive no attention at all.

You want NO mistakes? Then remove humans. Remove cars because they kill a lot of people. And please take care of illegal immigration since they ALSO kill lots of innocent citizens. Also stop doctors since they also accidentally kill 1000s every year.

The data proves that there is not an endemic police brutality problem when it comes to Black people. Math is math. Either choose to accept the numbers or ignore them and rule your life on emotion and personal perception....then go break stuff when your perception of reality isn’t what you want it to be.

 

An arm of Government killing people?
A murdering Government?

Forty one incidents, only nine of them involving African Americans, out of 10,200,000 confrontations in a country with a population of 330,000,000. Oh yea, that really shows a preponderance of a murdering government.

Like I said before, you have a better chance of winning the powerball while having a threesome with Denise Richards and Carmen Electra as you’re watching the Cleveland Browns win the Super Bowl then you do being an unarmed black man that is murdered by the government.

 

Cool story brah.

 

RE: If everyone followed the law, we wouldn't need the police - now that is a marvelous suggestion.

Yes, and it is a marvelous suggestion, you did good. If our communities and parents focused on teaching our youngsters not to be criminals, there would be less need for police. Now wouldn't and shouldn't that be something to focus on? But instead, we pour our energies into the mitigating the symptoms instead of the root causes.

Yes. Our communities need to do a much better job of getting criminals out of our society and we need to raise the younger generations to obey the law. That is where our failure is. Everything else is just reacting to our failure as parents and communities to instill right and wrong in our children. That we tolerate the criminals in our communities, and even to a certain extent protect them is much of the problem. We can apply that to both LEO and the civilian population.

 

What does any of that have to do with the police breaking the law?

 

Why does every liberal argument start with an anecdote while the conservative argument starts with quantifiable data? @SEAL Team V response should have put the matter to bed. The only reason that it doesn't is because individual elites want to use freak occurrences to accrue more wealth and power to themselves. GRIEVANCE POLITICS IS A MONEY MAKING ENDEAVOR. It is not in the least bit interested ending in "oppression", it is only interested in monetizing individual occurrences. Anybody who been paying attention for the past few decades is well aware of this.

 

Well, since you yourself steered the thread in this direction, that if we had no criminals we wouldn't need police, I was simply agreeing with you and then giving some thought to how we could make your vision a possibility. I would hope that you would agree that our communities and parents need to do a better job of raising our younger generations to be law-abiding citizens, which would decrease public/police interactions, which would decrease the number of poor outcomes in those interactions.

 

I agree, but people are also individuals. There are many parents who teach their kids the rights and wrongs of life, but they deviate from thos teachings. Hopefully they come back.

 

Agreed. Personally, I still think we as a society are too soft on crime. Now, do we have too many laws that make people criminals? Yes. But that is another topic.

 

Washington is highly mixed, with liberals as well as extreme racists. The outlying areas are mostly anti-liberal, Industrial areas like Tacoma are thick with racists. I've even heard that Seattle cops are notoriously racists.

The entire NW has a deep history of racism. Hell, Oregon was founded as a white-only State - the only one! They still had white-only drinking fountains in Portland, into the 1970s!

 

This idea that cities are all liberal is ridiculous. There are very red areas in even the most blue cities. And even in very blue areas, police corruption can be very old and deeply rooted.

We used to refer to the Great Red Wall of Orange County, in California.

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/

https://www.newsweek.com/white-men-have-committed-more-mass-shootings-any-other-group-675602

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...ite-males-responsible-more-mass-shootings-an/

 

Not by %, not in terms of per capita risk, and all other important measures. There are years even the total number of unarmed blacks killed are higher which should be virtually impossible. Unarmed blacks are far more likely to be killed than unarmed whites.


https://ritholtz.com/2020/05/mapping-police-violence/

https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/unarmed/

https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/

 

Because you made it up?

 

lol, ya, good question. I think if the inventory guy is prudent, he'd take a pass on refilling the pallets stacked up in the media section for a little while longer. I know if I was in charge that i'd take a hard pass on ordering new stuff lol

 

Made it up? The data is coming from the Bureau of Justice Statistics and Statista, WHERE IS YOUR DATA coming from?

100 million interactions with the public...

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cpp15_sum.pdf

And the number of blacks shot dead by cops was 235 in 2019.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

So "THE PROBLEM" is literally a one in a million occurrence 235/365MillionCitizens = 1/1.5 Million. That is ASSUMING every single one of those shooting was bad (AN INSANE ASSUMPTION). The typical liberal can name less than a dozen bad shoots of black people over a decade of time. Get back to us when you can provide a list of a few thousand ever year.

What is laughable about this entire situation is that liberals don't consider the MILLIONS of violent felonies committed a problem. Apparently the problem is the people trying to prevent those felonies are not treating the sociopathic thugs involved in the crime nicely enough. Pathetic reasoning. The people arguing for the thugs should be FORCED to live in the communities that are overrun by the thugs. I am sick of people arguing for thugs from the comfort of their crime free middle class communities, it is a kind of profound evil.

 

Target electronics in general are making record breaking sales.

 

Your statista data shows blacks are far more likely to be shot. I use that data too. Whites are more likely to be armed too.

You can divide black populations by % or absolute numbers by the population of the US, the population of a section of the US (East, Mid-West, West, or South) and do the same with white populations.

 

Hmmmm....

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...-likely-than-whites-to-be-subjected-to-police

"In its analysis, the Times reviewed Minneapolis police data from 2015 onward.

Since then, Minneapolis police have recorded using force (kicks, neck holds, punches, shoves, takedowns, mace, stun guns, etc.) around 11,500 times. Of those instances, 6,650 of them were against someone who was black. Comparatively, the department reported the use of force against white people 2,750 times."









For further context, Minneapolis has a population of 430,000; black people make up 20 percent of the city's residents, while white people make up 60 percent.