Anti-Islam Rally Attracts 17,000 In Germany

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  1. Ostap Bender

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    Probably you can explain us:

    Why Muslims who killed hundred of thousands innocent people alone in Iraq are fine and nice, but Breivik is wrong.

    Only because lefts mind so?
     
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    Since when is stating simple facts hatred? Speaking of hatred it is blatantly obvious that Sunni Muslims hate everyone else on this earth. If anyone hates anyone in the UK, it's Sunni Muslims hatred towards others. They teach their kids not to socialize with other kids, they teach their kids to segregate, they teach them hatred in their mosques....It's better to face the problem head on instead of continually denying it that there is a problem with Sunni Muslim community in the UK. Hate speeches in Sunni mosques all over London are recorded. It's a fact that their preachers preach hate.
     
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    Do you mind ANTIFA ( Antigerman Fascists )?
    They are Stormfront, SA and SS in modern Germany.

    70 % of those are Muslims, 30 % fare left, almost all are uneducated and unemployed parasites and enemies of German folk.
     
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    Why do you think I think sectarian-based violence is good?
     
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    I hate fascists. You seem to like them so long as they are of the hating-Muslims variety.
     
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    Lefts do not need your explanations, they have already decided to kill Western Civilization and to replace it by Muslims and Caliphates.
    The Peoples in Western Countries should vote today for PEGIDAs and Fare Rights.

    Probably it can still stop coming imminent civil war in Western World.

    [video]http://trutube.tv/video/10012/Europe-in-2029[/video]
     
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    Do you hate radical Sunni Muslims? Or you are selective in your hatred?
     
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    We know only one kind of True Fascists: Muslims.

    The entirely World contains billions proofs of it.

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    Because I never read your condemnation of IS, Muslim Terror and Quran - The Handbook of Terrorists!
     
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    Islamic fascism is an oxymoron. I hate the actions of psychopaths. Fascists fall into that particular category. I don't engage in sectarian-based arguments.
     
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    ISLAM=FASCISM!

    [video=youtube;jCfp48c31u0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCfp48c31u0[/video]
     
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    The second of the three is an oxymoron which, incidentally, explains your Islamophobic hatred. In terms of the third, I'm not interested in religious texts of any kind because I regard all organized religious doctrines to be supernatural hogwash. And as for the former, you obviously haven't been paying attention.
     
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    Point out where I indicated I share monster's Breivik's views, or withdraw back to your mother's basement.
     
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    Criticism[edit]
    The term, "Islamofascism" has been criticized by several scholars[29] and journalists. Historian Niall Ferguson[30] and international relations scholar Angelo Codevilla consider it historically inaccurate and simplistic.[31] Author Richard Alan Nelson[who?] criticized the term as being generally used as a pejorative or for propaganda[32][33] purposes. Tony Judt argued in a September 2006 article in the London Review of Books that use of the term was intended to reduce the War on Terror to "a familiar juxtaposition that eliminates exotic complexity and confusion", criticising authors who use the term Islamo-fascism and present themselves as experts despite not having previous expertise about Islam.[34]

    Critics such as former National Review columnist Joseph Sobran, and New York Times columnist Paul Krugman argue that "Islamofascism is nothing but an empty propaganda term" used by proponents of the "War on Terror".[32][35][36] Security expert Daniel Benjamin, political scientist Norman Finkelstein and The American Conservative columnist Daniel Larison, highlight the claim that, despite its use as a piece of propaganda, the term is inherently meaningless, since as Benjamin notes, "there is no sense in which jihadists embrace fascist ideology as it was developed by Mussolini or anyone else who was associated with the term."[37][38]

    Cultural historian Richard Webster has argued that grouping many different political ideologies, terrorist and insurgent groups, governments, and religious sects into one single idea of "Islamofascism" may lead to an oversimplification of the phenomenon of terrorism.[39] In a similar vein the National Security Network argues that the term dangerously obscures important distinctions and differences between groups of Islamic extremists while alienating moderate voices in the Muslim world because it "creates the perception that the United States is fighting a religious war against Islam."[40] Daniel Larison attributes proponent Hitchens' support of the phrase to his anti-religious stance.[41] British historian Niall Ferguson points out that this political use of what he calls a "completely misleading concept," is "just a way of making us feel that we're the 'greatest generation' fighting another World War."[30] Reza Aslan claims the term "falls flat" when describing groups like al-Qaeda, noting that they are anti-nationalist while fascism is ultra-nationalist.[42]

    Commenting on the claimed incongruity between the "Muslim World" and "industrial state fascism," US journalist Eric Margolis claims that ironically the most totalitarian Islamic regimes, "in fact, are America's allies."[43]

    The public use of the term has also elicited a critical response from various Muslim groups. In the aftermath of the 2006 transatlantic aircraft plot, George W. Bush described his policies as a battle against "Islamic fascists... [who] will use any means to destroy those of us who love freedom". The Council on American-Islamic Relations wrote to him to complain, saying that the use of the term "feeds the perception that the war on terror is actually a war on Islam".[37] Ingrid Mattson of the Islamic Society of North America also complained about this speech, claiming that it added to a misunderstanding of Islam. Mattson did acknowledge, however, that some terrorist groups also misuse "Islamic concepts and terms to justify their violence."[44]

    In April 2008, Associated Press reported that US federal agencies, including the State Department and the Department of Homeland Security, were advised to stop using the term 'Islamo-fascism' in a fourteen-point memo issued by the Extremist Messaging Branch, a department of another federal body known as the National Counterterrorism Center. Aimed at improving the presentation of the "War on Terrorism" before Muslim audiences and the media, the memo states: "We are communicating with, not confronting, our audiences. Don't insult or confuse them with pejorative terms such as 'Islamo-fascism,' which are considered offensive by many Muslims."[45]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamofascism

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    Your entire anti-Muslim narrative is straight out of his book.
     
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    Do none of you have a college education and any idea of how Terrorism works?

    Terrorism was founded by the communist Leon Trotsky, it can, however, be easily adapted to put forth any ideology. It has three stages;

    1. The terrorist commits atrocities. The idea here is to turn the people and the government against the terrorist himself.

    2. The government, egged on by the people and both being revolted by the terrorist's excesses, becomes oppressive to catch the terrorist.

    3. the oppressive government becomes even more so, the people revolt and the terrorist, having cast off his identity as a murderous villain, steps forth to lead the revolution.

    The whole schema relies very heavily on the people being both of short memory and low intelligence

    And, boy, most of the anti-terrorists here fit that bill, in spades. You guy are going RIGHT along with the terrorist's wishes and desires. Your conservatism and bigotry is the ring through your nose and you are being pulled directly along to the slaughterhouse behind it.
     
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    All religiously tribal, political and ideological doctrines are prone to co-option by competing factions- each one fighting for hegemony. The reality, is that the obscurantist ideology of ISIS is a minority cult and therefore, by definition, is not representative of Islam as a whole. But you know that.
     
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    First of all, let's make a clear distinction between Sunni radical Muslims and Shias. Sunni radical Muslims pose a tangible threat to Europeans. Few thousands of European Sunni Muslims fought in the Middle East and elsewhere spreading Jihad. They didn't have any problem beheading women and children just because they were of different religion. At some stage those guys are coming back to their respective European countries. More troubles ahead. It's up to Sunni Muslims community to come forward and report every single one of them, isn't it? But they are not coming forward, are they? The number is negligible.
    Finally, you admitted that you hate. People who hate have clouded judgment and cannot be reasoned with. Did you know that?

    A piece of advice which worked well for me throughout my life.

    “Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgment.”
     
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    I hate fascist ideology and so do all reasonable people. The idea that radical interpretations of Islam pose a tangible threat to Western civilization is complete bunkum. No amount of public denunciations (of which there have been many) by other Muslims against those purporting to act in their name will satisfy the Muslim-haters.
     
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    Because as if there were no NAZIS in the UK.
    Please clean your own backyard before pointing your crooked finger elsewhere.
    You drive a wedge between Islam and extremists Islam... Don't you know that ~<A L L -- MUSLIMS>~ Derive their hate, biases and 'slaughter the Jews' from the same supposedly saintly book called the Qur'an??? I hope not to hear from you again on the same subject!!! Because you have a few Muslim friends does not mean you speak on behalf of them only.
    Islam does not play the game by your parameters.
     
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    I'm certain that you are not a spokesperson for all reasonable people. Hypothetically, if there were two choices left, between fascism and Sunni radical movements such as Salafist/Wahabi/Takfiri we could safely say that the majority of reasonable people would chose fascism.
     
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    Again, point out where I indicated I share monster's Breivik's views, or withdraw back to your mother's basement.
     
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    And, just by sheer coincidence, most of the terrorist actions are conducted by Islamic terrorists... but no, we cannot draw any conclusions, that would be politically incorrect, right? :wall:
     
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    Yes, you are probably right. Problems always arise when minority sects' co-opt and hence purport to speak and act on behalf of the majority. This is what fascists and their sympathizers do - similar in principle to situations in which, for example, the BNP and EDL attempt to claim the union flag for themselves. Confusion among the general public usually arises in no small part because groups like ISIS self-identify as being Muslims in much the same way that the EDL and BNP self identify as being patriots.

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    That is factually incorrect.
     
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    I don't have to. You know what and who you are. So do all discerning posters on here.
     
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    Pegida are not Nazis. Pegida has the support of many Israelis.

    God bless all those currently fighting IslamoNazism.
     

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