Antivaxers, have the courage of your convictions.

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    If I felt that way about someone's opinion I wouldn't even reply to their post.
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    So you knew at the time that your doctors advice was misinformation.
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    Even the President can't fix morons' brains.
     
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    I do wonder if more parents will refuse the mandates to vax their children with all their school vaccines after Covid, will these diseases make a comeback
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do agree with the other poster though, we have to treat everyone, this is what people fear about universal health care, is the government not treating people that do something they disagree with in their personal life, like smoke, not get the vaccine, or whatever
     
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    We'll have them carted off to prison for disagreeing with your opinion and then the problem is solved!!;
     
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  7. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Conservatives live in a world of moral sand traps, they like it that way since it makes it easier to yell at others.
     
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    No. Hence the quotes
     
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    I didn’t have a nurse or a doctor - when we were sick we just stayed home.
     
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    https://www.news-medical.net/amp/ne...vaccinated-individuals-across-a-corridor.aspx

    Tye research here describes how two vaccinated individuals can spread omicron via hotels ventilation.
    Blaming unvaccinated for the spread is literally anti-scientific.
     
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    Exactly... it is just your opinion.. everyone has one .. Folks in the world have not asked for it and do not need your permission... most folks live by a "you do you and I'll do me " thinking...

    My opinion.. take it or leave it..... get vaccinated....especially for the most vulnerable... supposedly it lessens your symptoms and increases your "chances"...

    If I took off work every time I had a sniffle, especially during allergy season or cold weather I would not be at work, but that obviously is not your situation. Covid effects everyone differently... so please explain "STAY THE FRACK HOME IF YOU GET SICK"
     
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    As you seem to like your own opinion so much.... I'll ask for your opinion...Please explain "testing"... what it involves, the outcome, etc...
     
  13. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    I'm not blaming the unvaccinated for the spread, I wasn't even talking about the spread, the spread is utterly unimportant. It seems evident now that COVID is going to infect everyone and probably sooner rather than later, The vaccine saves us here, as it keeps the disease from becoming life -threatening and requiring hospitalization. What I'm blaming the unvaccinated for is they are overwhelming the hospitals with their virulent sicknesses that could have been headed off if they got vaccinated.
     
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    Maybe if you left people alone no one would be calling you a Nazi.

    And thank you for reminding everyone why Leftists should NEVER be left in control of our health care.
     
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  15. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    I don't know anything about testing and I care even less. I don't understand what the big fuss is there. If you're vaccinated you've got about the best protection there is right now so get vaccinated and stop worrying. I think the testing is so the government will know about where the disease is and what it's doing and I guess that's a good thing but not that much of a concern to me right now.
     
  16. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    And if you weren't using a scarce IC unit I or one of my loved ones might need to save their life for something you could have headed off with a simple jab in your arm I wouldn't be calling you an immoral hypocrite. Besides that criticism how am I "bothering" you? I'm not saying you should be denied treatment, I'm just saying you should have the courage of your convictions, stay home if you get sick and don't use up scarce resources others may need. You had your chance to get vaccinated and you didn't want to get a bad reaction, or you're afraid of Bill Gates or you just love Trump that much, Fine. I wish you luck and really hope you survive but STAY THE F*CK HOME IF YOU'RE SICK AND UNVACCINATED.

    And I don't understand why you think that "leftists" should never be let to give health care to people who really need it for necessary therapy instead of people who willfully ignore what amounts to cures of what may very well kill them because their leaders tell them to.
     
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    You should always do that. I was a teacher for several years and the school nurse was always telling us that the Perfect Attendance rewards were going to kill us all one day in Flu Season. Even if you're a worker and I need you on the job I'd rather you missed a few days than come in and infect the whole crew.

    If you're sick you're no good to me anyway, Probably just cause an accident and make the insurance rates go up. Use your sick leave like you're supposed to and stop bollixing my business.
     
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    You must confuse me with anti vaxxers. I am not one. I simply understand their position. Yours is the position of government generated hysteria. Mine is based on the actual science.
     
  19. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    And the "actual science" is that the hospitals are NOT being overwhelmed by people sick with COVID who are unvaccinated? That is what I am discussing, the overwhelming of the hospitals. Not the spread of the disease, nor the fact that the vaccine doesn't give you some sort of force field that keeps the microbe from infecting you.

    I am discussing the fact that the hospitals are full to bursting with people who have COVID and 90% or more of them are unvaccinated. That is not hysteria, that is fact.
     
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    Omitting facts is just as dishonest. Not consuming this pharma product is not the only factor that landed them in the hospital. The vast majority are obese and have illnesses resulting from their unwillingness to pull the fork out of their mouth and get some exercise. Those consuming the Standard American Diet (SAD) might as well consume this pharma product.
     
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    Correct. Omicron is causing a rush on hospitals, not because they require hospitalization but because of the added contagion and hysteria. Hospitals should test them and send them home. There may be legal reasons that they actually treat them.

    Ancient history. The real problem occurred over a year ago. What we see today isn't science. It is emotion.
     
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  22. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    In re the bolded, please back this up and do so in a way that explains how so many of these not really sick individuals are dropping dead. It strains credulity to think that most hospitals are literally killing their staffs through overwork for "legal reasons"
     
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    And somehow they ALL became deathly ill and died just now?

    Basically what I'm hearing is "Look at you, you're fat, or old, or out of shape, You're not sick, you can't be sick. Trump told us COVID is a Chinese hoax and every doctor and hospital in the world is in on it. Go home take some Ivarmectin and gargle with some Lysol, you'll be fine."
     
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    That Covid case rate though...... ROFLMFAO.....8)

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    Quit eating all that McDonald’s because covid people need treatment right now.
     
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