Anyone here play Skyrim?

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  1. stig42

    stig42 New Member

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    i like it it but im on my 6th charakter trying to make 1 as over powerd as i can iv done most of the game at least 1nce never finished theaves guild or realy started darck brother hood though looking forwerd to expansions have ps3 version so mods are out
     
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    I can agree with this after now completing the main story in Skyrim.

    There is no end game content after this.

    And the creator of Dark Souls was correct in his game philosophy. He wanted to give his audience a completed product. Which was finished and did not need expansion packs. His vision was one game to be played, adored with the only downloads to be bug fixes. (thankfully not that many)

    The Skyrim philosophy seems to be, to create a game enviroment to then sell bloated expansion packs and possibly a MMO. While the main game (as good as the graphics are) feels unfinished and unloved by its own developers.

    A shame. As Skyrim stands now, it is not worth playing as a rpg. And I will not be spending the money on the numerous i am sure Expanding packs to make the game as well rounded as Dark Souls.
     
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    I love this game. Best RPG I've ever played.
     
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    You do realize that this is a fictional game, right? Games like Skyrim would be boring if all the characters thought and acted the same. That's why these games have racists as well as characters that support multiculturalism. It makes the game more realistic when it spans the entire ideological spectrum instead of clinging to one side or the other.
     
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    I play still although I use lots of mods. I couldn't imagine playing Skyrim on a console it would just suck. For Bethesda games I still prefer the Fallout games especially Fallout New Vegas (yes I know Obsidian actually made it). Skyrim is fun but its fairly shallow and I was surprise at how awful the quests and general dialogue were compared to the really good writing in Fallout 3. Lately I have also been playing Morrowind again with MGSO 3.0. Even though the combat sucks balls I just love the atmosphere and writing and quests in Morrowind so much more. :)

    If I had to give it a rating I would say a solid 8 out of 10. I wouldn't say its my favorite RGP in recent years I think that title goes to the Witcher games. I would kill for a first person view, open world Witcher game. It sounds like the next Witcher will be sandbox but probably still only third person unfortunately. TES Online looks like a lot of fun as well.
     
  6. SpaceCricket79

    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    Honestly there was probably a deeper storyline in some of the the 90s 16-bit game games then there is in any of these generic "Elder Scrolls games". I'm not a huge fan of RPG, but in terms of storyline and characters, it's shallow and pretty much the bottom of the barrel as far as RPGs go - and the gameplay mechanics are uninteresting as well. The only selling point is the graphics, and the "huge amount of content" (90% of which is just recycled thoughout the game).

    It's just a generic fantasy game designed for mass appeal, and about as "deep" as a Miley Cyrus music video. Some people seem to think that if a game is a "fantasy RPG", this automatically makes it "deep" - but think again. A golf simulation game is deeper than this.
     
  7. upside-down cake

    upside-down cake Well-Known Member

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    It's a grind game, for sure. Oblivion had far more vitality and character to it.

    I think Bethesda had to cut a number of things short when they decided to rush the game. The Civil War was supposed to be much more dynamic and a far larger part of the story than offered...at the least.

    Many thing about this game were disappointing, but the modding community really deserves credit for taking that blank palette and making Skyrim interesting.
     
  8. SpaceCricket79

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    I nearly choked when I read this. Everything I just said above is true about Oblivion, except 100X over. Unless the last game someone played was Pac-Man I can't see them thinking that game was anything more than a generic game designed for mass appeal - the whole franchise is.

    I was talking about the entire franchise, not just this game. One of the most overrated and boring video game franchises of all time - and no definitely not because it's "too deep" - because it just generic, and it's a "quantity over quality" type of game - ex. "We give you over 10,000 different dungeons to explore" (and they're all exactly the same and have nothing interesting in them, etc)

    Other franchises which are also extremely generic and overrated - Mass Effect, Grand Theft Auto

    I really don't care if people "like" a game, movie, etc but when they brag about a game like this being "extremely deep", etc when it's just... not, that just annoys me a little. A series which actually is deep, and well done and worthy of hype would be Metal Gear Solid, for example - it's not perfect, but it makes the 'storytelling' in these games look like something from a 5 year old's 'pop up' book in comparison
     
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    Oh, no, I didn't say either one was extremely deep. I don't think it's possible or practical to make a deep storyline that basically services the more ADD type players who like to roam around a vast an open world than be boxed in by a particular storyline all the way through. I think Oblivion's world, however, had more character and vitality than Skyrim, however. Skyrim was really, really drab. You have to use a lot of mods to make this game interesting. Actually, it seems just messing around with the mods, themselves, was the fun part.

    I don't think I've ever played a game with a deep storyline...at least for the newer generation consoles.
     
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    IMO RPG games which don't have deep storylines are usually bad games - the 'gameplay' in RPGs usually isn't that great, but it gives you a sense of progression - so if the storyline's drab and the medicore "leveling" and "collecting items" and "wondering" around are all it has, then it's just time wasting and pointless

    This trend of making "open world" games needs to make a chance too IMO, because open-world games as a whole usually are just 'quality over quantity' games, and don't offer any stimulating gameplay or challenge - the selling point is just 'how much stuff' you can do in the open world, even if it's all extremely generic and repetitive.
     
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    I've been playing fantasy RPGs since Ultima I came out. I've been a pen & paper RPG player, MMORPG player (pre-WoW) running a guild of 300 people from all over the world with a complete back story and complex structure, and I've played just about everything except Final Fantasy. I worked for EA on several different games, and was offered a job by Richard Garriott (I didn't want move to Austin). I haven't said Skyrim is the best, but it certainly is an excellent game. If it's not your type, that's not a problem. I've never gotten into Final Fantasy, myself. Calling it a load of "Donkey Poo" will solicit the sort of response that I gave.

    There are a lot of bottom-of-the-barrel RPGs. Skyrim isn't one of them.

    Ah, I get it. It's the mass appeal that bothers you. How can it be widely popular and still good? That's the thinking of a snob, whether it be wine, golf courses, music, or video games.
     
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    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    Wow sorry about your love life

    Name anything (music, TV, movies, etc) which was 'designed for mass appeal' - and was still of excellent quality - I can't think of anything
     
  13. BleedingHeadKen

    BleedingHeadKen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have no problems there but thank you for your concern. Your stereotyping is noted.

    A snob by nature wouldn't be able to think of anything. It destroys their shallow ego if something is good and they didn't approve of it first. It is why they also tend to embrace totalitarian politics.
     
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    No Final Fantasy? Not even FF7?
     
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    I love open world games and frankly I can't play linear RPGs anymore than I can play turnbased games at this point. Once you get a taste for being able to do missions in whatever order you want or pick different sides its hard to go back to "on rails" heavily scripted rpgs where every event is predetermined. It doesn't even have to be a completely open world sandbox as long as it gives me a variety of ways to complete the missions and different stories based on my decisions ala the Deus Ex games. I just want to be able to feel like I am making a difference in the actual game world. This is one of the reasons that Fallout New Vegas is on my top ten list of all time games and Skyrim isn't. No matter what I do in Skyrim the actual game world doesn't change with the exception of the pathetic Civil War quest. I can literally take out a couple of Stormcloak forts in the CW questline, put on a full suit of Imperial armor and even dress my followers in Imperial armor and waltz right into Windhelm and into the castle and not a single person bats an eye. Try to do that with the NCR or the Legion with a bad reputation and you will get swarmed, unless you are wearing a disguise of course which was another nice feature that I really missed in Skyrim. At least mods address the armor problem. :clapping:
     

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