Apollo and Sunlight : addendum

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  1. Soupnazi

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    It exposes you and proves you wrong.
     
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    Pathetic, pathetic spam. As always the same reply.
    When someone like you makes the assessment, worse than a layman and with cognitive dissonance, the repeat spam claim can be dismissed.

    http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.com/2012/02/very-troubled-individual.html?m=1


    6. Credibility Test: "This calls for a credibility test. XXXXXXX maintains that the Chinese spacewalk was real and not faked in a water tank. Do you agree with him?

    This is where the spammer uses one of his pre-determined idiotic conspiracies or erroneous claims as the yardstick for a credibility test. He is the arbitrator of its provenance therefore anyone who disagrees with it can now be referred to as "discredited" and all their rebuttal can be ignored.

    I have to laugh at this bumbling incompetence. It has been possible to do this for 15 years. Specialist sites allow it to run at a whole variety of speeds!

    Notwithstanding anyone with even child like skills can put it in a video editor!

    Dominant ass kicker of idiotic hoax claims.

    It proves he is not on wires and you know it. You are simply afraid to admit your 20 year quest has been a complete failure!

    The responses to these have either been zero or moronic. He's now attempting to disprove something whilst ignoring the clear parabolic arc of dust between John Young's boots that is 100% irrefutably rising and falling at the same time as he is. PROVING that he must be on the Moon.

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    Still waiting for this person to finally see what everyone else can - all he can do is deny.
     
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    It really is quite unbelievable. To illustrate my point, the spammer links to a post...........where he denied the totally obvious!

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    To honest people - there is a clear arc of dust between his boots. Although it dissipates soon after it begins dropping, we can see enough of its motion to correctly gauge its speed. It proves he cannot be on wires. THAT is why the spammer denies this. The implication is then that his jump must be authentic and ergo mut be on the Moon. Checkmate/
     
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    Just in case you decide to tell this piece of bullshit again, I should remind you I was the one who actually showed you how to slow the videos down on youtube. Also the quote below is from 2017 and even you aren't crazy enough to miss that the Cernan thread was recent.

    Every time you post, there's always something to show you where you screwed up.
     
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    The date on the video is 2011. I'm talking about the age of the video. I'm not talking about the age of the thread.
     
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    What video? My Cernan jump analysis is nothing to do with the soil falling.
     
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    The problem with making such a moronic statement is that it is really easy to prove wrong. I guarantee that you will either cowardly avoid this or come up with some even more convoluted bullshit. I laugh with derision at your totally inept research capabilities, though I suspect that you are just making up hogwash hoping nobody checks it out. Typical you.

    Gif 1: Sand is gone as he hits apex - clearly goes up to the same height as he does. EXPLAIN!
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    Gif 2: Not as conclusive as gif 1 but still dissipates rapidly.
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    I estimate the chance of an honest response as being extremely unlikely. Especially as you appear to be the only person who is unable to see the irrefutable obvious!

    Number 3: This shows a clear parabolic arc of dust between John Young's boots that is 100% irrefutably rising and falling at the same time as he is. PROVING that he must be on the Moon.

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    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/reflector.575434/page-2#post-1072472797
    He's not jumping straight up and coming straight back down as the Apollo astronaut does. He's jumping forward. The sand doesn't go as far forward as he does. Please link to the video so that we can set the speed to .25.
     
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    Totally irrelevant. Your complete ignorance of gravity and physics is only matched by your ridiculous blundering responses.

    Horizontal motion makes no difference to the speed something falls. A cannonball fired level on a flat surface will hit the ground at the same time as if it were dropped from the same height straight down. Your argument is hogwash.

    My gif runs it slow enough, you're just diverting. More to the point, how the hell did you fail to find this! It took me 2 minutes searching.

    Beach Volleyball training - Exercises (Mladen Stankovic coaching Anton Lossev and Niksa Dell'Orco) - YouTube
     
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    The sand is rolling off of his toes and doesn't get the full force of his jump. You're comparing that with the Apollo soil that takes the full force of his jump.
     
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    In the clearest possible way, you have been shown sand rising to the same level as his feet, on a man jumping straight legged.

    1. So far you have made the bullshit claims about him bending his knees, which in my gif he did AFTER he was airborne and only briefly!

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    2. When your idiotic video's claims were directly refuted - you completely ignored this!

    3. You then invented an even more ridiculous claim about "every time" when they "don't bend their knees" and soil goes up as high as their feet - 3 absurd conditions - that in that instance the sand and feet fall together. Bullshit.

    Gif 1: Shows the conditions you failed to find! It also completely refutes your arguments.
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    4. You then invented some blundering crap about him going forwards, which even a 7th grader would know makes no difference to speed of fall!

    5. Finally we now have the limit of your absurd cowardly responses. You now say the "sand is rolling off his toes" - irrelevant it goes to the same height as his feet so must fall the same. Followed by the Apollo soil "takes the full force of his jump". Notwithstanding that he is RUNNING and John Young is stationary - again this is irrelevant.

    The ONLY thing that is relevant with gravity is that they should fall at the same time. It is unavoidable. He must be on wires is the moronic conclusion, playing volleyball! The real explanation is dispersal and visibility. The sand is lost against a background of the same color. Just like John Young on the Moon. However, with young we have 3 major clues.

    1. We see a shadow to the left tracking forwards and dispersing.
    2. We say faint darkening middle far right as the soil hits the ground at the same time.
    3. But most of all which you pretend not to see, is the damn parabolic arc WE CAN SEE between his boots in perfect motion with him.

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    You've lost, you know it and everyone who sees this knows it. Once again through your persistent spam and denial, a fully verified action has been made on the soil for the Navy Salute, proving beyond any doubt that he is not on wires and given his space suit and minimal visible effort, he must be on the Moon.
     
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    The bottom line is that the sand that goes up as high as his boot does starts falling before his boot does. It also falls faster which proves he's on a wire.

    That and all of the other anomalies prove the hoax.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ers-are-corrupt.441261/page-2#post-1072215068

    The fact that you maintain that the Chinese spacewalk was real proves that you're not fit to analyze anomalies.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...e-spacewalk-was-faked.578673/#post-1072491826
     
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    You are not fit to analyze anything including anomolies. You lack comprehension on what anomolies are.

    Anomolies do not prove anything. The chinese space walk was real and that fact has been proven and your claims have been crushed and destroyed.

    The astronaut was not on a wire and the dirt on the moon fell from his boots in a manner consistent with someone walking on the moon.

    Nothing proves he was on a wire and all the evidence proves you are wrong.
     
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    The fact that the soil falls faster proves he's on a wire. If the footage had been taken on the moon, the soil would have fallen at the same speed as the astronaut.

    Apollo 16 - Flag and John Young's jump (7 minutes, 360°)

    (4:40 time mark)

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/reflector.575434/page-2#post-1072472797

    The soil that goes as high as his foot does not only starts to fall sooner, it also falls faster. That couldn't happen without a wire.
     
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    Wrong.

    It happens commonly as has been proven with other videso and you have been defeated.

    He was not on a wire and that issue is settled.
     
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    You really have suddenly realised that your blunderings have finally been laid to rest! The bottom line as demonstrated here below is that this must also be faked. In reality the Apollo regolith clearly travels forwards as seen from the shadow visible to the left.

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    See above gif, therefore by this moronic claim, the volleyball player is on wires.
     
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    Behold the desperation of this person.


    1. We see a shadow to the left tracking forwards and dispersing.
    2. We see faint darkening middle far right as the soil hits the ground at the same time.
    3. But most of all which you pretend not to see, is the damn parabolic arc WE CAN SEE between his boots in perfect motion with him.

    [​IMG]


    In the clearest possible way, you have been shown sand rising to the same level as his feet, on a man jumping straight legged.

    1. So far you have made the bullshit claims about him bending his knees, which in my gif he did AFTER he was airborne and only briefly!

    [​IMG]

    2. When your idiotic video's claims were directly refuted - you completely ignored this!

    3. You then invented an even more ridiculous claim about "every time" when they "don't bend their knees" and soil goes up as high as their feet - 3 absurd conditions - that in that instance the sand and feet fall together. Bullshit.

    Gif 1: Shows the conditions you failed to find! It also completely refutes your arguments.
    [​IMG]

    4. You then invented some blundering crap about him going forwards, which even a 7th grader would know makes no difference to speed of fall!

    5. Finally we now have the limit of your absurd cowardly responses. You now say the "sand is rolling off his toes" - irrelevant it goes to the same height as his feet so must fall the same. Followed by the Apollo soil "takes the full force of his jump". Notwithstanding that he is RUNNING and John Young is stationary - again this is irrelevant.

    The ONLY thing that is relevant with gravity is that they should fall at the same time. It is unavoidable. He must be on wires is the moronic conclusion, playing volleyball! The real explanation is dispersal and visibility. The sand is lost against a background of the same color. Just like John Young on the Moon. However, with young we have 3 major clues.

    You've lost, you know it and everyone who sees this knows it. Once again through your persistent spam and denial, a fully verified action has been made on the soil for the Navy Salute, proving beyond any doubt that he is not on wires and given his space suit and minimal visible effort, he must be on the Moon.
     
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    May we have an honest response.
     
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    As I said before, I think the fact that the soil falls faster than than the astronaut does proves that he's on a wire by itself.

    (post #43)
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...nlight-addendum.584604/page-2#post-1072491946


    There's another analysis of the jump salute at the 58:58 time mark of part 1 of this documentary.

    Moon Hoax; "Apollo; Hoax Of The 20th Century" Part 1 of 2


    Moon Hoax; "Apollo; Hoax Of The 20th Century" Part 2 of 2



    The guy starts talking about fake lighting at around the 3:35 time mark of part 1.
     
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    I said an honest response, not more pretend bullshit and gish gallup videos. Why are you so afraid to be wrong? You are the opposite of a truth seeker and your confirmation bias and evasion is appalling. In red below - how can you dare to deny the undeniable?

    1. We see a shadow to the left tracking forwards and dispersing.
    2. We see faint darkening middle far right as the soil hits the ground at the same time.
    3. But most of all which you pretend not to see, is the damn parabolic arc WE CAN SEE between his boots in perfect motion with him.

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    In the clearest possible way, you have been shown sand rising to the same level as his feet, on a man jumping straight legged.

    Gish gallup spam - covered and ignored with idiotic responses here:- Apollo and sunlight | PoliticalForum.com - Forum for US and Intl Politics

    Debunking The Apollo Moon Hoax (debunking-a-moron.blogspot.com)
    10. Divert/Obfuscate/Re-spam: This is where he avoids the item completely and gish-gallops away with repeated spam. Almost certainly he will keep avoiding the original claim.

    11. Never mind that - look over here: When this hopeless individual has exhausted his inept repertoire of responses comes his most used spam. He resorts to spamming his wall of crap and ignoring the main issue!
     
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    But when the sand falls back down, it falls faster than the astronaut falls showing that he was on a wire. They would have fallen at the same speed if the astronaut hadn't been supported by a wire. Set the speed video that's in post #43 at .25. Please address that. As far as I'm concerned, this closes the whole case.
     

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