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  1. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Huh? You conduct an investigation to determine a cause, or to document a series of events, not determine an outcome. The outcome always comes first. You know it before you investigate.

    An experiment can determine an outcome.

    My point is that Dems form a hypothesis based on flawed premises, and demand an experiment using a procedure that is flawed due to the flawed premise, and none of that proves their intent is to produce some different outcome. They intend the outcome they claim. The failure is due to incompetence, not malice.
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Police: open up we're here for an investigation.

    Homeowner: an investigation of what?

    Police: Not sure. We were hoping you could tell us.
     
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    There a several types of investigations that all have different purposes. If we are to debate the purpose of an investigation, I think it would be best to first define they type of investigation. Criminal, site, scientific, etc. All investigations begin by gathering information, facts, evidence, etc. Once completed, the results are presented. The form of how an investigation is presented will differ depending the type. It may be a report or some other form of presentation.

    The outcome may be to prevent the occurance from happening again. Investigation of a plane crash for example might lead to redesign of a part. The results may also be used as evidence to determine civil/criminal liability or guilt usually by trial, not part of the investigation that precedes it, e.g. Comey's actions.

    For either of us to be right or wrong about the purpose is not material, at least to me. What is, is to underestimate my opponent. I do not assume all democrats are incompetent, ignorant or stupid, at least not until I can understand their intent or motive.
     
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    His contention is that Democrats are so incompetent that they no longer can even run a proper election. This is a first in American history. This is the stuff that America had figured out since the inception of the Union and the Democrats are discovering how to screw even that up. This is Californication on a national level.
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's not what I argued.

    What I argued was: if incompetence could have caused the failure, incompetence likely caused it. That doesn't mean everyone involved is stupid or ignorant. The smartest people often make the stupidest mistakes.
     
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    Okay, forget it. I think you only want to argue.
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Disagreement on a discussion board?

    The audacity!

    I get that it seems like I'm splitting hairs, but at some point the hairs need to be split. If you start with the assumption that there's some ulterior motive and that super smart people are just making themselves look stupid in order to achieve that nefarious ulterior motive, you're generally going to find yourself barking up the wrong tree.

    These social interaction based systems are far too complex for super smart people to predict, let alone precisely manipulate.

    The Democrats didn't botch their app on purpose in order for some agenda to be established 20 years from now. They botched their app because they didn't properly manage the design and implementation of the app. If some agenda happens 20 years from now, it has nothing to do with a botched app from today.
     
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    Do you do any coding? This particular phone app was not that sophisticated. It was written with bugs and not idiot checked enough. End of story.
     
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    Did 4chan trolls have that much of an effect:

     

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