app-blamed-for-botched-iowa-caucus-created-by-hillary-clinton-campaign-alum

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  1. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Aren't these the same clown that want us to trust them with our health care?
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes.

    Give up your 1st and 2nd amendment rights too.
     
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    Yes, He did and also left a paper trail. There will be rumors but a lot of them are proving to be true.

    "Behind the app that delayed Iowa’s voting results is a dark money operation funded by anti-Bernie Sanders billionaires. Its top donor Seth Klarman is a Buttigieg backer who has dumped money into pro-settler Israel lobby groups."

    "Shadow Inc. was launched by a major Democratic dark money nonprofit called Acronym, which also gave birth to a $7.7 million Super PAC known as Pacronym. According to Sludge, Pacronym’s largest donor is Seth Klarman. A billionaire hedge funder, Klarman also happens to be a top donor to Buttigieg and Amy Klobuchar."

    https://thegrayzone.com/2020/02/04/pro-israel-buttigieg-seth-klarman-iowas-voting-app/

    I also found this interesting:

    "Other campaigns have commissioned the company as well, including former Vice President Joe Biden’s and Senator Amy Klobuchar’s. But none of them come close to the money spent by Buttigieg’s campaign for unknown reasons."

    https://noqreport.com/2020/02/04/pe...tens-of-thousands-of-dollars-in-recent-weeks/

    And This:
    Did Pete Buttigieg’s Campaign Pay $42,500 to Iowa Caucus App Developer Shadow, Inc.?
    Fact Checks, Politics / By Kim LaCapria / February 5, 2020
    Claim
    Pete Buttigieg's campaign, "Pete For America," contributed $42,500 to Shadow, Inc., the developer of the Iowa caucus app; Joe Biden's "Biden For President" donated $1,225; others donated $0.
    Rating
    True

    https://www.truthorfiction.com/did-...2500-to-iowa-caucus-app-developer-shadow-inc/
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Vote for me: I will completely change and manage the world's largest centralized economy. I will completely change and manage the world's largest centralized health care system. I will completely change and manage the world's largest centralized education system. I will completely change and manage the world's largest centralized retirement system.

    Sure, lemme just log into your app here that you manage...and...nope it's all screwed up. But you'll totally competently manage those other things, right?
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All these grand schemes of the Democrats rely on the belief that the democrats actually possess the competence to accomplish the promises they make. Democrats have all these theories about how things should work, but can produce no resume of past working results. On the contrary, their resume includes lots of failures to produce results. The people on the ground, the ones that actually interface with these failures, can see exactly how ineffective and empty those promises have been. Zero results.

    State of the Union speech::Nothing but results.
    Iowa Caucus::Massive cluster**k

    Quite the contrast, no?
     
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    Shadow/ACRONYM: All the Sanders Votes You Can Afford To Buy
     
  7. US Conservative

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    Don't forget the feces, heroin needles, and homeless in democrat run cities.

    They can't even meet the basic functions of a modern civilization.
     
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    I'll bet that the homeless Americans in California love seeing the illegal alien housing demand figures.

    Such is the way when an ideology dictates a cause for a problem rather than observation and data. What's the cause of the homeless problem in California?

    Democrat: Racism, Stigma, Oppression.

    Republican: Laziness.

    Observation: Closed mental institutions tossed mentally ill into prisons. Relaxed criminal sentences tosses formerly incarcerated mentally ill and drug addicted into the street. Mentally ill on their own fail to seek assistance because a major symptom of mental illness is the inability to recognize the need for care (It's not because stigma causes shame, as Democrats like to think. It's because the mentally ill actually think they are fine.) Drug addicted would rather live on the street than deal with spending any money or resources toward housing. It's not laziness. They hustle hard for those drugs. It's preference. Mentally ill prefer freedom. Drug addicts prefer drugs.

    The answer isn't a simple sound bite. It's not something a single government regulation or policy is going to solve. And that's why those policies that try to frame the problems that way always fail.
     
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    Latest I've read is there will now be a complete recanvas, which the DNC defines as going back to and over each piece of paper at every caucusing place.

    There is no good reason to have electronic technology involved in voting. Paper only, paper kept for scrutiny, is best.
     
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    Mission Accomplished: Sanders denied any momentum from winning in Iowa.
    DP bosses win - every time.

    Who has been keeping the paper since the Caucus? ;-)
     
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    Wait, cant you find some angle to pin this on the "right wing"? Wasn't he a "right wing plant" or something?
     
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    Vote Democrat To Live In The Workers' Paradise!

     
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    Then he comes out on top.......fancy that. Is Sanders really that optimistic a fool to believe he's not going to get hosed again? The only way Sanders will get a fair shake would be to run as an independent.
     
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    Then I’m afraid Hillary and her crooked cronies would have him assassinated because he would take votes from the democrats in the General Election and all but guarantee Trump another victory. Crazy Bernie is toast no matter which way he goes.
     
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    I agree with you about their grand schemes. There are fundamental ideological reasons for the grand changes some "so called" democrats propose. The democrats are not at all democrats or completely incompetent any more than the Chinese Communist government is. They each know what they are doing. It may look like a series of screwups and they are to an extent but it is planned.

    Socialists have inserted themselves into the democratic party. They have been working from within for some time. Now they are attempting to effect the changes they want. For them to succeed with their "revolutionary" plans it is first necessary for them to tear down our current system, capitalism. Their timing is what is off. No revolution takes place overnight. The have begun their takeover revolution but in doing so they have become exposed, not part of their plan. That is why they look like bumbling idiots. They will fail for now but be assured, they won't stop trying.
     
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    Bernie is not the socialist of choice. Do not confuse that with other socialist factions working to their end.
     
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    Maybe not of choice but of fault. Back in ‘88 Bernie spent 10 days in Russia for his honeymoon where he was caught sitting at a table lined with vodka bottles and singing “this land is your land.”
     
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    I would love to see him split the left vote.
     
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    Not my point. Bernie is an insignificant over the hill communist. Sure, Bernie has his followers.
    There are others working within the democrat party though with far more nefarious intentions. They may work with Bernie for now but only in order to achieve their goals.
     
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    Does this truly explain it:

     
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    Never attribute to malice that which incompetence sufficiently describes.

    The intent is likely good...
     
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    Yes, in part. also see my #78.
    Where is the funding is coming from and why needs much more investigation.
     
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    Good for who?
     
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    We're talking about intent, not outcome.

    It doesn't matter.
     
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    The purpose of an investigation is to determine outcome. As a capitalist and not a socialist or democrat my reason for investigation including intent will obviously differ from any democrat candidate's opposing each other.
     

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