Are Conservatives More Complex Than Liberals?

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    A cogent point illustrative of extreme rightists' irrational denial of the the plethora of scientific data that comports with common sense .

    Concocting a global conspiracy by the world's climatologists, the US National Academies of Science, and every comparable scientific body worldwide, to create and sustain a monumental fraud for inexplicable objectives requires complex and convoluted reasoning, to be sure.

    Your point serves as Exhibit A for emotion short-circuiting the mind of an extremist, and I have no doubt that a comparable eidolon illustrative of a mirror-image Doppelgänger of the extremist left could readily be summoned through a glass darkly as well - a sinister plot conceived by industrial revolutionaries to befoul the atmosphere with the covert agenda of corrupting the youth of Wasilla with piña coladas, perchance.

    To reject simple truths clearly requires complex, even serpentine, mental contortions.
     
  2. Natty Bumpo

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    Wow! Ansel Adams and Ingmar Bergman were pinkos!
     
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    Don't waste my time.
     
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    What will the Chinese and Indians do to stop man made global warming?
     
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    I think you don't understand my complex reasoning. If 10 states benefit from mining but all 50 benefit from clean air most Congressmen vote for mining regulation even though it doubles unemployment in those 10 states. Unemployment checks help people in all states at times but the people who work continuously don't enjoy it. It would be interesting to see what percentage of all older workers-by state-have ever collected unemployment checks.
    Again, a farmer who has to pay farmhands the minimum wage from April to September discovers that those workers live on welfare the rest of the year and estimates that their income from himself and the government is close to his after-tax income for the year resents both the minimum wage and the welfare since he pays for both.
    A rich businessman who lives in the suburbs but works in the city is thankful for welfare because it decreases the number of beggars he sees daily. He doesn't care about the minimum wage because everyone he knows makes at least twice as much.
     
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    Wrong, do your homework.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/07/young-voters-2012-obama_n_2089789.html
    Sixty percent of young voters who cast ballots chose to reelect President Barack Obama, against the 36 percent who voted for Mitt Romney. That's a six point slide in youth support for Obama from 2008, but still nearly triple the margin of victory for the youth vote that John Kerry won over George W. Bush in 2004.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    By definition 1/2 of the People have an IQ of 100 or less.

    http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html

    If we assume an equal distribution per capita between liberals and conservatives then on the average the conservatives are less intelligent than the liberals because people with low IQ's tend to adopt conservative ideologies.
     
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    It really is easy, but I'm not sure you are getting it;

    The republican party, first and foremost are not conservative anything. They serve one master, the rich elites. They are the bad cop in the good cop/bad cop routine that is the two party scam.

    The democrat party, also serve the same master, and they pretend to be concerned about the poor and minorities, while further enslaving them to dependency. They are the good cop in the good cop/bad cop routine that is the two party scam.

    The sooner people realize this we can get on to bigger and better things once again.
     
  9. Albert Di Salvo

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    What is the average IQ of the African American underclass?
     
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    Does it really matter when they are outnumbered by over 2:1 by conservative white American racists?
     
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    Yet of those who have masters degrees and PHD's the overwhelming majority belong to the leftist crowd. This is statistically established. Methinks I smell a liar.
     
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    Surplus?....cut taxes.

    Deficits?....cut taxes.

    Recession?....cut taxes.

    Economic boom?...cut taxes.

    Conservative economics requires enormous critical analysis.
     
  13. Albert Di Salvo

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    I asked you a question in good faith. As a moderator you wear two hats, but you can never escape your fiduciary duty to act in good faith as a moderator/poster.

    Answer my question or state that you don't know the answer to the question.
     
  14. Albert Di Salvo

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    You don't know your enemies. You are making assumptions without understanding the variety of thought on the right. The real problem is the budget deficit and national debt. The only way to get them under control is to raise taxes and to cut spending.

    Taxes have been raised on two percent and cut for 98%. That is a problem from a deficit standpoint. No taxes should have been cut. Instead the can was kicked down the road.
     
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    You don't know your enemies. You are making assumptions without understanding the variety of thought on the right. The real problem is the budget deficit and national debt. The only way to get them under control is to raise taxes and to cut spending.

    Taxes have been raised on two percent and cut for 98%. That is a problem from a deficit standpoint. No taxes should have been cut. Instead the can was kicked down the road.
     
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    I'm no longer a moderator. I'm a former moderator.

    The answer is honest. White racist conservatives outnumber low IQ blacks by at least 2:1. According to FBI statistics on hate crimes a black is 22-times more likely to be the victim of a racially motivated hate crime than a white person. We also know that generational racism has reduced the African-American IQ test scores by roughly 20 points because it destroys motivation for African-Americans and motivation has been shown to affect a 20 point change in IQ test scores. Finally we know that over 1/2 of all Americans harbor racist views against blacks and Hispanics and that number has gone up from about 51% to about 56% over the last four years. We also know that fundamentalist Christians are more likely to be racists as well as being more likely to be conservatives.

    All of this has been well documented on other threads.
     
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    My fault for not being clear enough, I shall specify...........Romney won the majority of college and some college EDUCATED vote. http://www.gallup.com/poll/158519/romney-obama-gallup-final-election-survey.aspx

    Romney won 55% to Obama's 43% of college educated and he won 50% to 46% of the some college vote. Obama won the post graduate vote but statistically they are a very small percentage of the population.
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    And from a NBC/WSJ poll... "Mr. Obama won half the college-graduate vote in 2008, while Mr. Romney now leads among that segment, 52% to 42%.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204349404578098631613708560.html
     
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    As far as tax policy goes....what, in your opinion, is the BEST way to fix an economic recession?

    Feel free to cite Ronald Reagan if you like. :)
     
  19. Albert Di Salvo

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    Be that as it may.

    Let's see your evidence so it can be scrutinized.

    So what?

    Let's see your evidence now. You make them sound as if they suffer from adult developmental disabilities. That isn't true.

    I don't agree. Blacks and Hispanics have the same inherent capabilities as all other groups. The reason to generally hate Blacks and Hispanics is because they are leftists. There is nothing wrong with hating one's political enemies. Both sides do it. Hatred is the way it's going to be in the new tribal amerika. To create hatred doesn't require much effort. It's a smart political move. It drastically weakens the established order.

    I'm an atheist who hates his political enemies. No mercy for them. No matter what the consequences.

    That's of no use for purposes of our exchange. You haven't articulated your ideas.
     
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    A few real world considerations:

    1) Providing for the common welfare is a Constitutional directive that all elected officials swear to uphold, and national interests generally supersede local ones.

    2) While miners may shift from their accustomed Democratic allegiance because they, understandably, prefer filthy air and a job to clean air without one, I can't imagine that miners would be opposed to federal safety regulations even though it adds to the mining corporation's cost of doing business.

    3) Can you cite a single actual farmer whose workers live off welfare the entire time he doesn't need them and for which he spends his leisure time resenting them? He sounds apocryphal.

    4) Why would not your imaginary businessman resent business having to pay workers a minimum wage? - a far more logical inference to make.
    And which one is supposedly "thankful for welfare." Is he an actual person or an imaginary one?

    You seem to create your scenarios to fit your agenda without benefit of empirical data.
     
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    Both ideologies reflect the attitudes and conceit of a united dominant class. It is narrow-minded to accept these unrealistic and self-serving social theories as anything but the ramblings of drunken nobodies, which is all our intellectual leaders would be without Daddy's Money. Be like an atheist listening to an argument between a Protestant and a Catholic.
     
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    Common sense would tell you that college education is class-biased indentured servitude. It must be replaced with paid professional training. In its present state, it is a fraud and should not be rewarded. This is all obvious, but "common sense" is being misused as believing in the illusions commonly shared with the whole flock of sheep that follows what they are told to think by fleecing and butchering Good Shepherds. No wonder they call the shepherd's pole a "crook." In other words, common sense is merely conformity to the status quo instead of working around this obstacle to practical thought.

    A Big Lie is something you would be outraged by if told for the first time after the age of 18. "You want us to do what! Get a job by going four years without a job?" Notice that both Liberals and Conservatives respect the college educated, when all it means is living like a 16-year-old off part-time jobs because students are afraid to grow up. The exception to that is rich kids living off an allowance, which is still more proof that Liberalism and Conservatism are just variations of upper-class snobbery and shouldn't be taken seriously as legitimate thought-processes. "Common sense" and "critical thinking" are also false concepts because they are both based on lies we were tricked into accepting as fundamental truths when we were too young to be able to judge what we were told by the authorities when they first indoctrinated us with fundamental errors.



    Nerds can't handle women because eggheads get henpecked.
     
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    You didn't provide the study, you provided an article about the study.

    Once again, point made!
     
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    This is just more evidence that Liberals are agents of the Right Wing, where most of their fathers come from. Coal competes with oil. The oil companies used their Greenhead sons to discredit the use of coal. Only suckers believe what they are told to believe about this imaginary conflict of ideologies.
     
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    More failure to realize what is going on. Liberals are driven by class instinct to purposely make government inefficient and malignant. There is nothing systemically wrong with government except the privileged people who opportunistically take it over. If we didn't have all these phony Liberals from the 1% they pretend to hate, people outside the elite wouldn't be tricked into voting Republican as a reaction to the Liberals' class-biased provocations.
     

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