Are you actually ready to buy an Electric Vehicle?

I wouldn't take his hysterics into consideration in evaluating whether I want to own an electric car or not.

It seems rather defensive.

 

I have yet to get a Federal payment for me owning my Cadillac. Where can I get paid?

 

Fine in Texas. The gas stations actually closed.

 

When an immature person is allowed to post, that is what we get.
He even had a fit over the title of the video. That came from England.

 

It seems the reaction is due to the criticisms being accurate and emotional connection to the topic.

 

With the massive loss in Electric current, how did they do fine in TX? No Electric current, the gas stations close. But so did the charging stations.

 

When I sold Real Estate for others, there are some excellent rules of proper selling. Being belligerent is not going to ever work.
If he wants to convert others to his line of thinking, he has to be considerate to them.

He told me thanks for him buying his EV. I did not pay one dime for it.

 

52 votes and he is only one of 5 to buy that EV. And he frets over batteries.

 

If an EV company tells you to charge real slow, it is a bad marketing ploy.

 

I don't think he's trying to sell anything. I think it's taking criticisms of electric vehicles personally which nobody should everybody knows the limitations of them and if that's something you can live with then who's anybody else to say anything about it.

And I chose the vehicle I chose because I wasn't concerned about its limitations. That's not to say it doesn't have any run across plenty of people that absolutely hate tracks they like sports cars and that's why they make all these different things for all these different people

 

I guess I missed that part of the discussion.

 

I don't EV's, but I won't try to fool myself that a diminished capability is somehow a step forward.

 

ICE is a government agency. Clearly, one of us is pretty thoroughly in error here.

Ergo, ICE is not provided fleets of vehicles based on "subsidies" or any other kind of welfare, which is customarily shoveled out to private individuals on whatever basis is in 'fashion' at any particular time....

 

ICE in this discussion is an acronym for Internal Combustion Engine.

 

Thanks for the clarification, Jack. Our language is lost in a confused hell of acronyms, abbreviations, and internet-babble. No wonder we Americans rarely understand what we're saying anymore....

As far as electric cars go, in most American cities right now, as I've pointed out, the biggest drawback is having to hang around for a half hour getting more 'charge' in the battery while criminals lurk in the shadows waiting for 'an unguarded moment'. No thanks... I'll stick with fuel of one variety or another for what remains of my life....

 

You seem to have the wrong idea about EV batteries.
It doesn't take much effort to find EV charging info.

"Limit your use of fast chargers. Obviously, there are times when you need a top-up in a hurry, and the fact they can give you a quick boost of up to 80% in a short space of time will be invaluable to higher-mileage drivers. But don’t rely solely on fast chargers to keep your car topped up, as they’re not good for the batteries in the long run. Slow charge whenever you can and especially if it's cold outside."
"One advantage of charging slowly is keeping your battery healthy. Time for a very quick lesson in lithium-ion batteries you find in EVs – as you charge or discharge them, the internal resistance in each cell creates heat. Do it quickly, and there’s a lot of heat. That has the potential to shorten the life of your EV battery, so charging slowly means less heat, and potentially a healthier battery."

"For example, if you avoid fast charging, you may have 80 percent capacity after 10 years of normal use. However, if fast charging is your primary fueling method, then your capacity would be 70 percent after 10 years. While the cost to the battery’s lifespan may not be as much as you may think, fast charging still takes a toll that should be avoided when possible."

 

Very useful post, Gab, especially for those of us who must always anticipate cold temperatures from about mid-October through mid-April here in Colorado.

These electric cars are probably very useful in metro areas like Houston, Atlanta, New Orleans, Los Angeles, San Diego, etc., but for a variety of reasons, I wouldn't want to deal with owning one of them in Denver, Colorado -- or in parts of Colorado where it gets much colder and the cold lasts quite a bit longer.

. "What? No charging station...?" --

 

Some of you may not know this, but technology improves over time.

Quoting an article from 2011 without properly attributing it does not demonstrate proper knowledge of technology.

https://www.plugincars.com/eight-tips-extend-battery-life-your-electric-car-107938.html

The information here is all wrong. Welcome to technology.

A 120V plug at a U.S. house may have a circuit breaker rated at 15 Amperes but for safety reason only 3-4 amperes are actually pulled from the wall. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt make the charger a little dangerous by pulling 4 amperes from the socket.

120V x 4A = 480W= 0.480 kW = 0.5 kW. I gave you'all the benefit of the doubt and rounded up. Let's say someone used up $4 of energy on one day - 40 kWh.

40 kWh / 0.5 kW = 80 hours / 24 = more than three days. Using a 120V plug is like using an eyedropper to fill an ICE. You could do it, but no one recommends it. The best way to think of the 120V plug is like a gas can. It's just there to allow you to get somewhere to fuel the car.

About the supposed "battery damage". A modern EV has 1000 hp with is the same as 746 kW. Compare 746 kW to 0.5 kW. Think. If a battery expends energy at 746 kW, why would it have problems charging at 10 kW, 100 kW, or 200kW? btw 746 kW is far more than your house circuit could possibly handle.

Usually something equivalent to a Nema 14-50R is used. For this one get 50 Amperes at 240V.

240V x 50 Amperes = 12,000 W = 12 kW. Special EV plugs for houses easily go to 80 Amperes. Many old houses may not be wired for this. Still slow but not excruciatingly slow and definitely not harsh on a battery. Supercharging an EV in no way affects the life of the battery unless I guess you bought one in 2010 . . .

 

Most EV drivers charge their car at home. It is the primary convenience of an EV. EV drivers don't go out to charge their car anymore than they go out to charge their laptop. Charging stations are only used when going on trips.

 

Never did that.

Never said I wanted to convert anyone.

You already were.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...d automaker, plus preferred shares and a loan.

Most EVs are not charged at charging stations. Only those unfortunate enough to live in outdated apartments have to use charging stations on a regular basis.

In addition, for most the electricity turned on and off. And then there are solar panels.

Once again, you're showing dishonesty. If you used this thread for enlightenment, why are you using information people have given to attack them?

And no, I never fret over batteries. That's something ICE drivers do.

 

1. Energy comes from nothing.

2. You don't need to stop to refuel.

3. There weren't many ICE vehicle companies which went out of business.

4. Conspiracies exist everywhere.

 

https://www.tesla.com/models/design#overview

So, you're a drug mule?! Yep, definitely don't use an EV for that.

Do you enjoy watching people die in EVs?

Yeah, the resale value is phenomenal.

 

You're misrepresenting my posts.

Why are you this butt hurt not everybody is just in love with electric vehicles?

 

One thing we're not running out of is hypocrisy.
Secret Otto Engine Car For German Green Party Minister…”Range Anxiety”…”In The Interest Of The Country”
By P Gosselin on 11. July 2021

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Another example of Green hypocritical “do as I say, not as I do”.

While Germany’s Green politicians demand regular tax-paying citizens make sacrifices and accept inconveniences on behalf of the climate, they think they get to follow other rules.



Image: Merriam Webster

Michael Sauerbier of the Berliner Zeitung (BZ) reports on how last March “Brandenburg’s Minister of Health Ursula Nonnemacher (63) touted “the government’s first all-electric official car”… “a new e-Audi” but in reality she “secretly used her state secretary’s gasoline-powered car – out of range anxiety!”

For Ms. Nonnemann, getting stranded by losing battery charge is all part of the sacrifices the regular peasants will surely have to make in order to put the global climate and society back in order. But because her work is so important, that duty doesn’t apply to her. . . .

 

This is what happens when you tell everyone that Hitler wasn't a socialist and that socialism is ok.