Are you lawless?

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  1. smallblue

    smallblue Well-Known Member

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    If I write something on a napkin and people find it 200 years later. . .you think they might believe it is the word of God?
     
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    BFSmith@764 Banned

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    Are you suggesting that He does not exit and how do you know that?
     
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    BFSmith@764 Banned

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    BFSmith@764 Banned

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    How many people today believe that what the pagans wrote about there gods are actually gods?
     
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    BFSmith@764 Banned

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    Every system and government that man has created eventually have failed because those who government are inconsistent, but only God's government can be relied on because only He is sure and consistent. So consistent is God that He is fully capable of supporting the existence of everything that exist in the world and the entire universe and what is outside of it.

    Malachi 3:6 (KJV)
    6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.


    Hebrews 1:1-3 (NASB77)
    1 God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways,
    2 in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world.
    3 And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high;
     
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    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Liberty allows you complete sovereignty on your property - do what you like. I will do as I like. This is out of your control.
     
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    tkolter Well-Known Member

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    Sure Atheists are we make an agreement and sign a document we are 100% bound by it, its called Civil Law a human construct. And we have a structure of laws from local up to the agreements between nations all structuring obligations and rights at all levels.
     
  8. Bishadi

    Bishadi Banned

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    That aint gods promise to mankind?

    What church is that from because it has nothing to do with god?


    you aint mine, and that's by how you post

    matt 16;24 Then said Jesus to his disciples, `If any one doth will to come after me, let him disown himself, and take up his cross, and follow me,

    25 for whoever may will to save his life, shall lose it, and whoever may lose his life for my sake shall find it,

    26 for what is a man profited if he may gain the whole world, but of his life suffer loss? or what shall a man give as an exchange for his life?

    27 `For, the Son of Man is about to come in the glory of his Father, with his messengers, and then he will reward each, according to his work





    In economics, the invisible hand of the market is a metaphor conceived by Adam Smith to describe the self-regulating behavior of the marketplace.[1] The exact phrase is used just three times in Smith's writings, but has come to capture his important claim that individuals' efforts to maximize their own gains in a free market benefits society, even if the ambitious have no benevolent intentions. Smith came up with the two meanings of the phrase from Richard Cantillon who developed both economic applications in his model of the isolated estate .. http://www.ask.com/wiki/Invisible_hand?o=2801&qsrc=999

    that invisible hand is the beast to hold back a consciousness from being required to sustain virtues

    You have it quite opposite!


    WHO is it?
    Who wrote, what god said of genesis 3:22?

    what did he and or god mean on that exact script.


    i haven't heard you apologize to the forum for misleading but I do trust that you will as soon as you learn enough.

    I asked what is that 'promise of god'. And your response, is all made up BS

    You just described your own pattern, not mine!




    nothing in that script claims anything of the such. He 'charged' them not to call him Christ, because he wasn't Christ and knew it. It is one reason, i like the guy so much.

    It's all over the gospels. He was talking about another person coming that is 'christ' not that he would be king to fulfill prophecy (ie...... he didn't fulfill prophecy ) and no one wants to be 'king' in the fashion like many bow to
    No one wants to be king, even if crucified

    I read, that he charged people not to call him Christ, because he was not him and kept leaving the idiots who were saying he was.

    makes far more sense
    Again, no one wants to be such a king



    actually i believe you ignor questions because you fear what is real

    You are in writing and are being judged.
    You just don't believe!




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    BFSmith@764 Banned

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    No, I ignore people when I see it’s a waste of time. I'm not here to drill what I have to say into people's head; they either accept it or don't and I just move on. Because one way or the other the true WILL become known for the entire world to see, then all will know who was speaking the truth and those who were not. Peace.
     
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    BFSmith@764 Banned

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    Laws really don't make people civil, it only shows how uncivil they are because if people were civil there would be no need to make laws and set a system in place to enforce the obeying of those laws in order to compel people to be civil. How many people would not steal or murder if the entire system was incapable of enforcing the law? How many people are honest when no one is around?
     
  11. Bishadi

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    that's what I get from the good book

    rev 22;4 and they shall see His face, and His name [is] upon their foreheads,
     
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    Bishadi Banned

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    how many false witness and actually believe it's OK?

    you guys are in writing.........
    ouch
     
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    BFSmith@764 Banned

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    How many false witness and actually believe its ok??? That statement does not make sense including the one below it. What is it that you are asking and what do you mean by you guys are in writing?
     
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    BFSmith@764 Banned

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    And what is your point?
     
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    In your mind is it possible for a persons word to be good while not believing in God?
     
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    that is a question, not a statement.

    I asked:
    How many false witness and actually believe its ok???

    (I quoted the question, with all the question marks behind it, as to help you realize.................. it's a question)

    ie..... do you 'false witness' religious bs and actually believe it is OK? Do you actually believe that you will not be judged?)
    I want to know if you think it is OK to 'false witness' (lie)?

    The last part was, that these posts are in writing, evidencing the occurrences and to be judged. Basic!

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    In my mind?? That does not exist. But without God no one is good. Without God mankind is like a blind man groping around unable to know where they are and which direction to take. Without God man has an ever increasing set of problems on top of problems with no solution in sight.
     
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    did you see Christ and have the name of god upon your head (learned and between your ears)?

    Was Jesus, seen by all and provide the name? No he did not!

    He said: (per bible, per Rev 22)

    4 and they shall see His face, and His name [is] upon their foreheads,

    5 and night shall not be there, and they have no need of a lamp and light of a sun, because the Lord God doth give them light, and they shall reign -- to the ages of the ages.

    6 And he said to me, `These words [are] stedfast and true, and the Lord God of the holy prophets did send His messenger to shew to His servants the things that it behoveth to come quickly

    Actually, throughout the whole new testament, jesus (per se) was telling people, 'it's coming'......



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    BFSmith@764 Banned

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    I knew that, its just that the way the question was worded did not make sense.

    I do not witness about any religion; I talk about the kingdom of God.....that is what Jesus taught and commanded His people to tell others about. And I don't go around making false witness as you call it, and I do not support it. But as long as you and others are thinking religion when I say what I say you will not grasp what I'm really talking about.
     
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    LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOLLOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

    Let me suggest this to you.....stick to what you know and stop quoting the Bible because you are making yourself look very foolish to those who understand the scriptures.
     
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    here; try it again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bishadi View Post

    how many false witness and actually believe it's OK?


    Simple.

    Shall I word it more clearly for you: Do you believe it is OK, to false witness (lie)?

    It is simple to answer for any human being.

    kingdom?

    Pharaoh's had kingdoms and never has a god, unless of a religion have a kingdom, ever!
    Others may have made that claim, but I never heard jesus talk like that.

    may I ask, what is your evidence that jesus would say such a load of garbage?
    If you are ranting that 'god' or that 'jesus' wants us to do the kingdom and preach, then I will call that a complete false witness of truth, which in this case, is from 'religious beliefs'.

    Anytime anyone puts jesus as messiah or a god, or that he is to be a king of all, as a god, then I represent that them lines of beliefs are of a religious point of view and lies (false witness of truth).


    Do you believe it is OK to lie?
     
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    I respectfully disagree with this.
    Your saying all non believers are bad. Does that make all believers good? Believers never go back on there word?
     
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    I just posted what bible says, that jesus said. Anyone can read for themselves. I didn't change a word to fit what people want to believe. I posted what bible said, that jesus said.

    Apparently you had not read what bible has in it!

    LOL LOL LOL

    ha ha ha ha

    Kind of funny how you post what you think jesus or a god or whomever wants of mankind, but haven't read the bible to realize what jesus supposedly said.
     
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    From God's position all human beings are naturally bad/wicked/evil or what ever description one might want to use. The only way a person, any one, can ever become as God is, is that God has to impart His Spirit in that person, and thereby giving them His Nature that will allow the individual grow spiritually into the character and Nature of Jesus.

    The problem is people don't realize the state that they are in, so they think that they are good. If people were as good as they think they are, the world would not be the way it is. We would not have the poor being exploited by the rich, or rich Countries exploiting poor Countries for its own selfish interest and be interfering in there internal affairs, and those people would not hate the west either. You would not have poor people or poor Countries because people would be free from being oppressed in all its shapes and forms, and be free to pursue there passions. There is no reason for there to be so much injustices in the world, excepting for the fact that human beings are the ones that are responsible.

    When you understand what I'm talking about you then realize how evil human beings are.
     
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    I have read and studied the Bible from cover to cover countless times, yet you have the gall to say to me that I don't read the Bible, as if you know me. You are too presumptuous. I'm not going to waste my time trying to explain it to you. Bye..........
     

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