Are you lawless?

On those emphasized cites you have quoted: When are the people who are being addressed supposed to witness those things? From what I can gather, it says "shall see"... but there is no established date. Hmmmm.

 

Yes, He does. The group that God favors are those who are busy doing what He expects of them.

Revelation 3:9 (MontgomeryNT)
9 Behold, I am making those of the synagogue of Satan, those who say they are Jews, but are not, but are lying; behold, I will make them to come and bow in reverence before your feet, and to know that I have loved you.

The day is coming when people are going to come a pay homage to God's people just as one would when in the presence of a king. Why? Because the saints will be kings over the Earth.

 

That scripture is something that is to take place way into the future when the saints are glorified and made immortal, when there are no longer any mortal human beings or animals on the Earth.......this beyond the millennium, after God renews the surface of the Earth by fire to consume everything that will be on the surface of the Earth. And it does not mean that God name will literally be written on there forehead.....its symbolic of the mind ones thoughts.

But silly people like Bishadi will assume to think they know something of which the know nothing about.

 

If you're pagan, you do. Problem is, Pagans didn't end up with the giant Empires with the Christian Church state declaring the bible was the word of God.

 

I don't really want to get into this because no matter how gentle I am at wording it you will probably be offended. I also have no desire to argue. I've already gone through all that with some one else.

 

The other problem is that you are confusing so-called Christian Empires with true Christians. It was the Catholic Church whom heavily influenced the Roman Empire that murdered a lot of the true Christians and sent them into hiding. So the Church you see today is not the same Church that was founded by Jesus in AD 31. The Roman Catholic Church and its offspring (those that broke away) is the fulfillment of what Jesus told His disciples would happen.

Matthew 24:4-5 (ASV)
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man lead you astray.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am the Christ; and shall lead many astray.


Its the same false Church symbolically represented in Revelation 6:2. It looks like the real thing but its a clever fake. So good is the fake that the whole would thinks its the real thing.

Revelation 6:2 (ESV)
2 And I looked, and behold, a white horse! And its rider had a bow, and a crown was given to him, and he came out conquering, and to conquer.

The Roman Catholic Church did just that.....it went out and conquered or torture and murdered in the name of Jesus. They believe in Jesus just as Jesus said these false people of God would claim, but there deeds are unlike what Jesus taught and lived.

 

That's fine, I just saw it as your sig. and I wanted to make a public comment about it.

 

Oh, please. A no true Scotsman fallacy followed up by an anachronistic reading of Revelation.

 

But you are not attempting to irrefutably prove him wrong or in error. So where is the problem?

 

He isn't a troll, so he isn't demanding proof or irrefutable proof of anything and then casting aside the irrefutable proof by shifting the goal posts been further into absurdity.

 

No one said that he is demanding anything. Another empty and presumptuous argument coming from you. It is me that is requiring the irrefutable proof from you.

 

Yup, and I have no motive to provide it for you if you continually dismiss it by moving the goal posts.

 

What goal posts have I moved this time? I saw no goal posts and you previously admitted that the other writer was not making any demands toward proof... so what goal posts are you talking about... hallucinating again are you?

 

I'm not saying you moved goal posts in this thread, I was claiming that it is a constant act by you. Your intellectual integrity is lacking.

 

So is your intellectual honesty. You accuse me openly of moving goal posts and even bring an unproven subject across threads. I'm gonna have to look at the TOS real closely on that one. I know from what you have posted above, that you comment does not have any relevance to the subject of this thread, so what was your reasoning for posting such off-topic discussion? Harassment? Personal attack?

 

and he got you again with this one!

really safer to ignore it, I think.

 

sooo, these evil countries exploiting poor countries, they'd be the western protestant christian countries?

 

I was describing traits of your character that I have seen multiple people address, so while it may not be 100% certain that you're acting like an intellectually inept troll, I have some evidence that your posts exhibit this behavior. Furthermore, the entirety of my post was dedicated to explaining your misconstruing of post #60. So, if my post is off topic, so is yours.

 

Being called a Christian Country does not make that County Christian anymore than someone with a last name Christian.

 

im asking how you know your claims are more then assumptions

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and gods would not exist just because people stopped believing in them they exist just because people do?

 

Oh my goodness... Admitting that there is uncertainty in your claim of me acting like an intellectually inept troll (is that name-calling again?) and in that admission you have no choice but to throw in a disparaging remark about my character... based on what.... Your opinion of what you have seen me post. Now it appears that you have moved on to making a personal attack through name-calling. Yes, My post would also have been 'off-topic' but guess what... my post would not have been off-topic if yours had not gone that route before I got there.

 

oh right. so the muslim countries are really the christian countries? or is it the hindu countries? further, what religion do the protestant (95% Christian!!) countries really subscribe to, since you say they're not xtian?

 

Let me ask you this, do you see the U.S living up to what Jesus taught and lived? Do you see the U.S loving its enemy and turning the other cheek as Jesus taught? The word Christian means a follower of Christ. So if a person or Nation that claims to be Christian is doing the opposite of what Jesus would do, how can you possible think they are Christian? Are you that naive, that you are fooled by them just because the U.S or these in it claim to be Christian but support wars and actions that Jesus does not and would not be a part of?

 

I think that is the answer to my question (in bold).

The quoted scripture above, clipped from Matt, is not to or about Jesus..........

Jesus aint the name of god....................... Never has been, except to them that accept the 'lie'.

 

I very distinctly laid out that your posts were exhibiting this type of behavior. That's attacking the message, not the person. And no, it isn't just my opinion of what I have seen you post, it is the opinion of almost every person I have seen engage with you in debate. As for the off-topic post: do you have a point or not? I in no way see how my original post in this thread was off-topic, and it wasn't until you came into the thread blabbering about your own sets of standards that this thread started becoming off-topic.