Assault rifle ban will fail without objective definitions because...

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  1. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    I think it seems impossible for you to separate assault rifles from other type guns.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Well my cell phone went down every time and my land line kept working. Babble on if you wish but fact is fact.
     
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    Their sexual confusion isn’t my problem.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Good you finally figured out that we are talking assault weapons not all guns. Good for you!
     
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    The firearms currently being sold on the private market are not so-called "assault rifles" because they lack the physical ability to be used in a fully-automatic manner, which is a requirement to meet the definition of what is and is not an assault rifle. Attempting to dishonestly and erroneously change the definition to include all semi-automatic rifles does not what is fact.

    Nor does such an attempt at diversion and the moving of goalposts serve to change the fact that purchasing, owning, and using a firearm, has absolutely nothing to do with matters of masculinity, or the perceived lack thereof.
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And once again you have proven you totally fail to understand anything about the proposed amendment.
     
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    Define 'assault weapon'. So far none of the gun grabbers have been able to so...
     
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    Another lie to support a false narrative.
     
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    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    Masculinity has zero to do with anything.

    I have a variety of semi-auto rifles but the rifle that probably gets 10x the use of the others is a plain .22 Henry repeater. The most fun to shoot out of anything with cheap ammo that I buy in massive quantities. Nearly every time I head to the range with that at least somebody walks up with one of their suped up AR's and asks if they can plink a few rounds with it.

    I've owned firearms for decades and I know A LOT of fellow gun owners. Never once in my life have I ever seen anybody make fun of someone for owning a .22. In fact most gun owners own .22's because they are the most fun to shoot and the cheapest. Firearms have nothing to do with masculinity where is this thinking coming from and what evidence is there to support it?
     
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    Probably from those who are reflecting and there is no evidence to support such.
     
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    There is zero evidence to support it. For those with little to no knowledge about firearms a quick youtube search will confirm that. Simply type in .22 rifle and watch a few videos and you'll see hundreds of popular gun channels with hosts laughing and smiling as they plink with their .22's. The same folks who do reviews on .50cal sniper rifles and breach shotguns and all sorts of hard hitting "Man!" stuff.

    "Man these things are fun if you don't have one go buy one", or something along those lines, is how almost all of them sign off of their videos.

    The fact that the most popular, common, and used firearm caliber in the US is the .22 is evidence enough that folks don't buy guns for masculinity purposes. If so then .44 magnum or something would be the most popular and not the 1 step above pellet gun rounds that everybody shoots by the truck load. There's a whole lot of "sissy" men out here if thats the case...
     
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    Add to that the fact that one of the fastest growing segments of firearm sales if females and out the window goes the masculinity claim.
     
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    Oh, I don’t know, many women have larger balls than many of the anti gun priests I know. When I hear references of gun compensating for masculine endowment, the name Lyudmila Mikhailovna Pavlichenko pops to mind.
     
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    I was at the range this morning zero'ing a new rifle and there were multiple women there up and down the line with a wide variety of firearms from blue 9mm handguns to .300 Blackout AR's. Firearms are becoming more and more popular among women by the day. Which is good.
     
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    I have conducted firearms training for more than a couple decades. I have found there are some women that have been easier to train than many men (fewer preconceptions and bad habits to overcome). A few turned to be Annies, like my first wife and my girls, who all became became far better precision shots than me. Both my girls, barely breaking 100lbs, carry and both at a young age enjoyed shooting the biggest beasts in my collection, guns many men, including my older one’s police officer husband, wouldn’t enjoy shooting. Funny, never missed having a boy.
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm.... a quick canvass of ‘gun grabbers’. Is this an assault rifle? A Military rifle? Why?
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    May throw many for loop.
     
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    Yeah I guarantee you that if semi-auto "assault rifles" ever get banned then these are going with them eventually. It's all about looks, if it LOOKS like that then it's getting canned at some point if they get their way.

    The funny thing is the folks making the laws likely have no idea that this doesn't fall into the category they are thinking of and will more than likely try to pass a bill that excludes these because they have no idea how firearms actually work.

    I'd actually love to see that, remember these are the same lawmakers who a few years ago thought AR-15s were machine guns. It would be hilarious to see a law passed saying something like "All assault rifles or semi-auto rifles or whatever you want to call them are now banned" then folks walk around with these and it's like "Hey we said those were illegal!!!"

    No you didn't, you said "rifle" lol.
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    I still want to know why the gun I posted would be considered one of the evil guns. What makes it so?
     
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    Because it has a detachable magazine and it looks scary.

    Seriously, I've been around here for a lot of years, that's the only answer you're probably going to get from anyone. I can't tell exactly what it is from the small picture but even if it's one of those 9mm uppers with converted magazines it looks like a regular AR and that's a no no.

    If you say it shoots pistol caliber ammo they'll say well it has high capacity magazines, if you say pistols (that they think of when they think pistol) have high capacity magazines too then they'll say those should be banned too. And it has a buttstock (thats what it looks like) and it can be shouldered which makes it more lethal.

    And eventually itll turn into basically anything with a detachable magazine above 10 rounds should be illegal.
     
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    Um, perhaps the fact that not one mass shooter has been of the female persuasion.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Facts are a bitch. .
     
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    Well perhaps you can help with my education assuming you have actually read whatever proposed amendment you are talking about.
     
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    Of which you have presented none, nada, zero.

    All you have presented is hearsay not backed by any facts.
     
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    It's already been posted, try using an art known as reading to educate yourself about it.
     
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    So, law should be based on the subjective criteria of the beholder?
     
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